Tobi remains invincible

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Let's face it,Tobi with only kamui is practically invincible.His power to teleport and to get intangible made everyone's day worse.

Not even a well prepared Konan with full intelligence on kamui could kill him.He has way too many trump cards:lots of uchiha eyes,rinnegan,izanagi and other stuff.But his most op card is KAMUI.

2 jinchuurikis and 2 jonins barely managed to break his mask(what an achievement xd).After he transformed in juubi's jinchuuriki and stopped using kamui(because I don't know)he got rekt hard.

The masked man Tobi will always be the n1 villain of all times.What came next with Obito's reveal and with the juubi is garbage.


Now Imagine Tobi with Kakashi's sharingan.It's fair enough to say double kamui Tobi is godlike status?
 
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Kamui's weakness has been easily exploited by Minato, Gai, Kakashi, Naruto, Tobi even stated that Itachi could counter it. It only makes you "Invincible" if your opponent doesnt know how to counter it.
 

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Kamui's weakness has been easily exploited by Minato, Gai, Kakashi, Naruto, Tobi even stated that Itachi could counter it. It only makes you "Invincible" if your opponent doesnt know how to counter it.

I remember Tobi saying "had Itachi known my secrets we wouldn't be having this conversation"to Sasuke.That means Itachi was still unaware of Tobi's powers.

Sure Kakashi found out how to counter it.How did that help him?They only managed to break his mask.
 

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I remember Tobi saying "had Itachi known my secrets we wouldn't be having this conversation"to Sasuke.That means Itachi was still unaware of Tobi's powers.

Sure Kakashi found out how to counter it.How did that help him?They only managed to break his mask.

I know they were only able to scratch him, but like Minato proved, Kamui doesn't make you invincible and has a major flaw.

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Obito also stated that Itachi was the only reason he didnt attack Konoha again after his fight with Minato.
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If Tobi could beat Itachi, he would have attacked the Village after Minato's death.
 

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Kakashi with ms and intel can beat him alone kamui a clone and there you go obito lost sasuke with intel can counter with ameno as well as land attacks on obito when he materializes to attack a decisive sword strike after ameno combo and its gg id imagine naruto with shadow clones rsm and intel could pull off what he did in the manga as well he waits for obito to go for kaumi distracts him with a clone feint and boom his clone is in kaumi land ready to negg diff obito when he materializes minato already whooped obito as well so your thread has some holes in it
 

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I know they were only able to scratch him, but like Minato proved, Kamui doesn't make you invincible and has a major flaw.

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Obito also stated that Itachi was the only reason he didnt attack Konoha again after his fight with Minato.
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If Tobi could beat Itachi, he would have attacked the Village after Minato's death.

Lmao Itachi was a kid when Minato died...Like a 7 year old Itachi could have done something back then...
Also,Itachi and Tobi had an agreement for Tobi not to harm the village or Sasuke in exchange of his contribution in killing the uchihas.That doesn't mean he feared him lol.He just sticked to the agreement until Itachi died.
 

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Kakashi with ms and intel can beat him alone kamui a clone and there you go obito lost sasuke with intel can counter with ameno as well as land attacks on obito when he materializes to attack a decisive sword strike after ameno combo and its gg id imagine naruto with shadow clones rsm and intel could pull off what he did in the manga as well he waits for obito to go for kaumi distracts him with a clone feint and boom his clone is in kaumi land ready to negg diff obito when he materializes minato already whooped obito as well so your thread has some holes in it

Cool beans
 

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Lmao Itachi was a kid when Minato died...Like a 7 year old Itachi could have done something back then...
Also,Itachi and Tobi had an agreement for Tobi not to harm the village or Sasuke in exchange of his contribution in killing the uchihas.That doesn't mean he feared him lol.He just sticked to the agreement until Itachi died.

Obito stated specifically too that he would have died if he wasn't careful with his Secrets. My point is Obito knew Itachi was capable of killing him.
 

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Obito stated specifically too that he would have died if he wasn't careful with his Secrets. My point is Obito knew Itachi was capable of killing him.

Yea I agree that Itachi was the only one capable of killing him.That's why he kept some of his powers secret just in case.But that doesn't mean he avoided attacking konoha because he was afraid of Itachi killing him.It was just for the terms of the agreement.If Itachi really felt like Tobi was a great threat he should have made a move.
 

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The ONLY reason they had a chance was because Kakashi had the other eye and was able to make the connection, without that, Nobody would have ever guessed and would have just assumed he was becoming intangible, and not actually shifting through demensions.
Itachi was very smart and could think outside the box, MAYBE he would have figured out how to counter Kamui. But other than using another S/T jutsu, how does one counter Kamui

Also, Obito didnt attack konoha because of the agreement with itachi, not that he was scared itachi would kill him. If he showed that he wasnt going to hold his end, Itachi would have probably just snitched on akatasuki to all the villages.
 

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The ONLY reason they had a chance was because Kakashi had the other eye and was able to make the connection, without that, Nobody would have ever guessed and would have just assumed he was becoming intangible, and not actually shifting through demensions.
Itachi was very smart and could think outside the box, MAYBE he would have figured out how to counter Kamui. But other than using another S/T jutsu, how does one counter Kamui

Also, Obito didnt attack konoha because of the agreement with itachi, not that he was scared itachi would kill him. If he showed that he wasnt going to hold his end, Itachi would have probably just snitched on akatasuki to all the villages.

Yep.That's the truth.
 

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Lord Itachi solos him easily.
 

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it's true... tobi wass the best villain of series. Not obito but tobi.
He had so much mystery to him and such a hax tech to go with. To top it off his goofy attitude and then suddenly comes the serious one. He was so much more than any other villain in the series. As for being invincible, no one is invincible in fiction as writer can jus come up with something more hax to deal with him.
After tobi, pain is 2nd.
 

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Minato trumped Obito tho and if Minato hadnt been killed by Kurama, he would have teleported to the seal he placed on Obito's back anytime he wanted to kill him. Minato > Obito
 

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Minato rekt obito kamui easily
 

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Tobious was and is indeed invincible before he let Obito took over. No one can kill him. The best most people were able to do was sever an arm but in the long run he'd kill them painfully.
 

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No matter how hard I try, I just can't see Tobi/Masked Man as Obito, even if he is.

They are just so different in personality; and to be honest, his take on Madara was always better to me, than even real Madara, what with him always being calm and cunning.

I really wish there wasn't Edo Madara, but that he was one and only Madara, but weakened due to old age.
 

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Obito stated specifically too that he would have died if he wasn't careful with his Secrets. My point is Obito knew Itachi was capable of killing him.

He ssaid if Itachi had known his secrets, he'd been dead at that moment (right after Itachi's trap activated which implies Itachi would've had a better trap set up for him. Better than Konan's)

If he would've meant in general, then even if he were weaker, he could've had the Akatsuki deal with him (Kisame had respect for Itachi but IT is mainly were his loyalty lied)

Not only did he have to keep Itachi alive for Sasuke's sake, but he had to deal with these kind of traps which would label him as a thorn on his side.



Regardless of who's better, that comment was aimed at that post-mortem trap. Itachi's lack of knowledge is the reason why he failed to set up a trap thatn would've killed Obito.
 

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No not really he just trolls death :cool:
Just about every other important character got beat up and nearly died
 

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Well yea. Obito is top 5. Not including persons not ninjas like Hagoromo, Hamura and Kaguya and other. Nethier Juubi Jinchurikis.

Even Indra and Ashura are strong but many have better skilles than them. I think that their transmigrants surpassed them.

First place is Naruto & Sasuke. With Naruto in the edge.
Second Madara Revive Rinnegan.
Third Minato
Fourth Obito
Fifth can be a lot. Maybe Bee, Hashirama, Tobirama, Itachi and others.
 
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