Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some
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Re: If Madara knows obito
Noo they have the same voice, all tobi's are obito. This scene with long hair is 8 years after the kyuubi incident so obito having long hair is understandable.
Noo they have the same voice, all tobi's are obito. This scene with long hair is 8 years after the kyuubi incident so obito having long hair is understandable.
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Rin is not the real reason!!
Rin is not the real reason that obito went evil, something else triggered his personality change. Here are some facts that i have found.
1. When madara saved obito from rock Rin was still alive. So the fact that obito never came back to the village was due to something else. Remember that if you believe Rin's death activated kakashi's MS, then Rin shouldnt have truely died till after Zabuza Arc and before Part 2 started. Also, obito had to have learned of Rin's death since he wasnt in the village, which means that he decided not to come back on his own (probally influence from madara)and he turned evil way before she died. Madara molded obito to the way he is now. Rin has nothing to do with it.
Now someone might say, "how do you know that Rin was the reason he turned evil", "he just said it in the manga, so you know more then kishi now", etc.. etc.. Well here is my reason #2.
2. Right after Obito said the reason was rin, he also said this.
Obito say's theres no point in blaming kakashi, because the reality is insignificant and also that he doesnt care about the affairs in this world.
So obviously rin isnt the reason he turned evil because she was only an affair in this world. IMO it think Madara has implanted an idea into obito's head and now, obito just want to have control over the world.
Rin is not the real reason that obito went evil, something else triggered his personality change. Here are some facts that i have found.
1. When madara saved obito from rock Rin was still alive. So the fact that obito never came back to the village was due to something else. Remember that if you believe Rin's death activated kakashi's MS, then Rin shouldnt have truely died till after Zabuza Arc and before Part 2 started. Also, obito had to have learned of Rin's death since he wasnt in the village, which means that he decided not to come back on his own (probally influence from madara)and he turned evil way before she died. Madara molded obito to the way he is now. Rin has nothing to do with it.
Now someone might say, "how do you know that Rin was the reason he turned evil", "he just said it in the manga, so you know more then kishi now", etc.. etc.. Well here is my reason #2.
2. Right after Obito said the reason was rin, he also said this.
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Obito say's theres no point in blaming kakashi, because the reality is insignificant and also that he doesnt care about the affairs in this world.
So obviously rin isnt the reason he turned evil because she was only an affair in this world. IMO it think Madara has implanted an idea into obito's head and now, obito just want to have control over the world.
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Re: Obitos not emo
People are rather simple minded on here......He didnt say that in a serious manner folks "Yeah...if you wanna know....." how serious of an address is that? We'll find out the SERIOUS reasons why he turned out this way (if thats even "HIM")..."Whether *I survived is not important" every week, th entire forum jumps to conclusions....sheesh
People are rather simple minded on here......He didnt say that in a serious manner folks "Yeah...if you wanna know....." how serious of an address is that? We'll find out the SERIOUS reasons why he turned out this way (if thats even "HIM")..."Whether *I survived is not important" every week, th entire forum jumps to conclusions....sheesh
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Re: The Tobi effect
With Madara pretty much being an unstoppable apocalyptic burst of power, a worn out Kakashi, Bee, Gai, and Naruto with the konoha 11 and thousands of fodder ninja will be nothing too hard for him. Naruto charge up a talk-no-jutsu up like Goku does with the spirit bomb and then he's gonna slam it onto Obito causing Obito to realize that he's been manipulated
With Madara pretty much being an unstoppable apocalyptic burst of power, a worn out Kakashi, Bee, Gai, and Naruto with the konoha 11 and thousands of fodder ninja will be nothing too hard for him. Naruto charge up a talk-no-jutsu up like Goku does with the spirit bomb and then he's gonna slam it onto Obito causing Obito to realize that he's been manipulated
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Re: Rin is NOT the real reason!!!
Good point
Good point
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Re: Rin is NOT the real reason!!!
good thread...check out my new one
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Re: Rin is NOT the real reason!!!
The war was started because of his ambition. His ambition was fuelled by his hate. His hate started because of Rin's Death.
She is not the cause of the war, just the start of the man known as "Tobi".
The war was started because of his ambition. His ambition was fuelled by his hate. His hate started because of Rin's Death.
She is not the cause of the war, just the start of the man known as "Tobi".
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Kisame seeing Tobi's Face
Hi.
Came across this recently and I'm sure it was already posted but couldn't find it on the first 10 pages, so I'm sorry, but I'll post it anyway.
How is it that Kisame saw Tobi's face and called him Madara-san, when clearly, Tobi was/is not Madara?
When as we now know, Tobi looks like this.
I mean it's more like Kisame has seen Obito's face in the past or something, but genuinely, he shouldn't call him Madara?
Any theories?
Hi.
Came across this recently and I'm sure it was already posted but couldn't find it on the first 10 pages, so I'm sorry, but I'll post it anyway.
How is it that Kisame saw Tobi's face and called him Madara-san, when clearly, Tobi was/is not Madara?
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When as we now know, Tobi looks like this.
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I mean it's more like Kisame has seen Obito's face in the past or something, but genuinely, he shouldn't call him Madara?
Any theories?
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Re: Kisame seeing Tobi's Face
transformation jutsu.. even genins can transform
transformation jutsu.. even genins can transform
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Re: Obitos not emo
this is narutoverse not real life. magic can do whatever it wants. if obito began to be corrupted and cold because of his comrade's death then let him. its not like he can forget about it and move on like nothing happened.
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Re: Rin is NOT the real reason!!!
second the above analysis.
either way, not the best of reasons, not the best of writing. startin an annihilation war against all mankind because the death of a girl he had a crush on... come on....
second the above analysis.
either way, not the best of reasons, not the best of writing. startin an annihilation war against all mankind because the death of a girl he had a crush on... come on....
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Re: Kisame seeing Tobi's Face
most likely Kisame reconized Obito as he was close with Madara and knew of the plan, So he called him "Madara" like Kabuto called him Madara after he already knew he wasent, Tobi also said "i know you where close to him" instead of me,which proves he wasent madara because kisame met madara when he was controlling the Muzikage not obito.
most likely Kisame reconized Obito as he was close with Madara and knew of the plan, So he called him "Madara" like Kabuto called him Madara after he already knew he wasent, Tobi also said "i know you where close to him" instead of me,which proves he wasent madara because kisame met madara when he was controlling the Muzikage not obito.
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