Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

[3MESSIAH]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

you sir are totally right

 

[xxSalamanderxx]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

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[Ramen Noodles]

Best explanation of why Tobi = Obito; share it!

Hey guys, i've been lurking around for a while and decided this was a good time to join.

I have a good theory as to why Tobi is Obito, and I was apart of the Tobito theory supporters from the beginning. Here's the deal..

Tobi is Obito
Obito gave his eye to Kakashi and they were told to run, leaving Obito to die
Obito passed out
Obito was saved by Madara Uchiha at The Battle of Kannabi Bridge
After Obito woke up, Madara had already attended to his wounds, his eye sack, from which his eye to Kakashi was torn out, is shown to be sewn, and his right eye intact, although his right side of the face seems to be bruised a lot
Obito was burried in Konoha with an empty grave
Madara became Obito's mentor
Obito was brainwashed in the long run into accepting Madaras ideals
Madara was the one to come up with Tsuki No Me
Madara was the one to attack Konoha 16 years ago, wearing the mask
Madara died after unlocking Rinnegan (is not explained how he done it) and overusing it by accident
Obito became Tobi
His mission was to carry out Madaras plan
He was given all the information that Madara possessed, thus the extent of knowledge Tobi has about everything
He was trained by Madara

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Side note: I don't want Naruto to end, i want to it to be like Dragon Ball/Z/GT.

 

[Jako98146]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

As the title says,I think that Tobi can't be Obito,because there are too many plot holes.

First of all,Tobi was controlling the mizukage,when Obito wasn't even born or was very little.(You might say that the one controlling the mizukage was Madara,which may be true).

Let's say that Obito was saved by Zetsu and trained by Madara,that still doesn't explain how he got so powerful,knew everything and learned about Kurama and how to control it.And if I remember corectly,he said when he was taking out Kurama from Kushina that he waited a long time for this.How is this possible when he was like 14?And his voice changed so much after just a year.A year before he was a little kid that could be beaten by Rin,and after a year he went toe-to-toe with Minato,the fourth hokage.

So,in my opinion,someone uses Obito's body and controlles it.What are your thoughts?

Exactly +rep

 

[ChuckNorris2]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

damn...I don't know how kishi is going to get out of this one there are way to many plotholes that he can't be obito kishi is going to have to think of something fast

 

[ShiroT]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

As the title says,I think that Tobi can't be Obito,because there are too many plot holes.

First of all,Tobi was controlling the mizukage,when Obito wasn't even born or was very little.(You might say that the one controlling the mizukage was Madara,which may be true).

Let's say that Obito was saved by Zetsu and trained by Madara,that still doesn't explain how he got so powerful,knew everything and learned about Kurama and how to control it.And if I remember corectly,he said when he was taking out Kurama from Kushina that he waited a long time for this.How is this possible when he was like 14?And his voice changed so much after just a year.A year before he was a little kid that could be beaten by Rin,and after a year he went toe-to-toe with Minato,the fourth hokage.

So,in my opinion,someone uses Obito's body and controlles it.What are your thoughts?

you don't know when the attack happened. it could've been two or three years which would make him about 16 and with a growth spurt(the same naruto had) he would be adult sized with a deeper voice.

 

[Mudo]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

Nah he's Obito. XD

 

[Flash]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

I say the person who fought Minato was someone else....n the person who is Tobi now is Obito
Or maybe someone got hold of obito's body?....like orochimaru wanted Sasuke's body.....but the soul remains the same......

 

[Necron]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

you're just in denial kiddo... The Obito theory was the one that made the most sence, it does not mean there was only one Tobi...

Don't worry, Kishi will explain everything soon enough, till then, Obito theory bashers should just get this simple fact through their Brains: It's Obito's Eye, Obito's body (except propably the hand and leg) and Obito's consiousness, propably tricked or something, but it's definitelly in there...

 

[Shika88]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

Well, first I think the Kurama attack was some years after the war. Kakashi and Gai were adult or close to adult.

3 Mizukage probably was controlled by madara. in Kisames flashback we saw long hair, just as Madaras.

But what bothers me is Obitos change of mind.

I got another theory. Madara copied Muus jutsu to split, this is how he got away from Hashi. As it is an actual Body, I also can Imagine, one can be revived by Edo Tensei, while the other is alive. Such as Muu got sealed and was still there.

Oro also plays a role in there. Maybe Madara, or one Part Madara which survived copied Oros jutsu of bodytransfere. And used Obitos body.

 

[Shika88]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

Well, first I think the Kurama attack was some years after the war. Kakashi and Gai were adult or close to adult.

3 Mizukage probably was controlled by madara. in Kisames flashback we saw long hair, just as Madaras.

But what bothers me is Obitos change of mind.

I got another theory. Madara copied Muus jutsu to split, this is how he got away from Hashi. As it is an actual Body, I also can Imagine, one can be revived by Edo Tensei, while the other is alive. Such as Muu got sealed and was still there.

Oro also plays a role in there. Maybe Madara, or one Part Madara which survived copied Oros jutsu of bodytransfere. And used Obitos body.

 

[-A-]

Re: Best explanation of why Tobi = Obito; share it!

nice theory, covers all the questions i wondered.

 

[vandell]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

this is just sad and i'm so piss tyhat i waste so much time into reading this bs. it was fun but come on the scary cat that cried like a baby and had no skills until he unlock his shangan, really this better be genjutsu on all us naruto kakashi the readers if not i promise i will never read anything by kishi again. im already a one piece fan and now i'm switching over for good, everybody go read fairy tail anything but this crap, we all should go on strike if kishi don't tell us something really good

 

[Olyasama]

Re: Best explanation of why Tobi = Obito; share it!

Madara was the one to attack Konoha 16 years ago, wearing the mask

Having exactly same voice, appearance and the MS ability as Obito does? And being affected with the white substance as well? No sence. That was Obito who's attacked Konoha, you're simply forgeting that he was already 15 years old by that time and that he's not actually defeated Minato, he ran away after being hardly injured. The only thing he's really done is using the Kyuubi.

 

[tampangjames]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

As the title says,I think that Tobi can't be Obito,because there are too many plot holes.

First of all,Tobi was controlling the mizukage,when Obito wasn't even born or was very little.(You might say that the one controlling the mizukage was Madara,which may be true).

Let's say that Obito was saved by Zetsu and trained by Madara,that still doesn't explain how he got so powerful,knew everything and learned about Kurama and how to control it.And if I remember corectly,he said when he was taking out Kurama from Kushina that he waited a long time for this.How is this possible when he was like 14?And his voice changed so much after just a year.A year before he was a little kid that could be beaten by Rin,and after a year he went toe-to-toe with Minato,the fourth hokage.

So,in my opinion,someone uses Obito's body and controlles it.What are your thoughts?

madara could not have trained obito because Hashirama and madara were about the same age and Hashirama was by far older than sarutobi and when the kyuubi attacked konoha sarutobi was already an old man so it is not just possible unless the used oro jutsu

 

[Necron]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

this is just sad and i'm so piss tyhat i waste so much time into reading this bs. it was fun but come on the scary cat that cried like a baby and had no skills until he unlock his shangan, really this better be genjutsu on all us naruto kakashi the readers if not i promise i will never read anything by kishi again. im already a one piece fan and now i'm switching over for good, everybody go read fairy tail anything but this crap, we all should go on strike if kishi don't tell us something really good

This is how you can tell is someone was an Obito theory basher... Fece it, the hints were there, you just happened to miss them. We were right, you were wrong, end of story... :noc:

 

[OneMellowGuy]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

Until Kishi tells me otherwise Tobi is Obito.

 

[Marz001]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

It's possible. I'm sure somehow Madara was his mentor. It's the only way he can have so much knowledge. With one of the strongest ninjas in history as your mentor why couldn't you take on a Hokage plus control the 9Tails.

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

Re: Best explanation of why Tobi = Obito; share it!

I agree with everything besides the part were Madara attacked Konoha.Tobi was using S/T techs so its clearly Obito.If you look at how tall Kakashi and Guy got before the attack,you can clearly see that Obito would be around that same height.Obito attacked that Village,I believe it was the real Madara who was controlling the 4th Mizukage and showed his face to Kisame

 

[boshans]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

no, and it wasnt after a YEAR that he faced minato, a few years had already passed.

Yes it was a YEAR. The third world war ended 17 years ago, shortly after the battle in which obito "died". The Kyuubi attack happened 16 years ago, and we know that for a FACT since obviously Naruto is 16 years old, and the attack happened on his birthday. So yes, he faced Minato after a YEAR. it was definitely not a few years at all. he was 14 years old.