tobi is zetsu after all

[Blaze Release]

chapter 503, page 4. first panel. you can see his hand falling off in the bottom right.

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Omg. + rep. Youve put me in my place.
I seriously didnt notice until right now

 

[HokageNaruto12]

no i still strongly believe that tobi in obito, trust me he must be people keep thinking its too straight forward, the zetsu's where made but tobi cause i know for a fact that he needs something to navigate through his jutsu, it has to be i have looked through it, and i have come to find that the reason zetsu came to be was because obito need another half to survive right? share any light on things i may have wrong

i agree wit this but i think its jus his body not mind

 

[boshans]

Lol yeah I didn't notice for a while also. Kind of hard to notice I guess. But this means that both his arms produce that white goo now, and he can obviously regrow them. His left hand during minato's fight, and during danzo he took his right arm off. My theory is his arms are some zetsu type thing, not his whole body. Since minato totally beat his ass with the rasengan in his back, and it looked normal there.

Just thought of this also, but if you notice in the anime, there is a LITTLE bit of real blood dripping off of his hand, so obviously there has to be some part of his body thats real. Thats why I think its just his arms that are weird.

 

[Child of the Prophecy]

Did kakashi have his sharingan yet in this episode? If not, then it can't be ****ing obito. Not to mention its not not obito either way. Hate this theory makes no god damn sense.

Edit: nevermind he obviously has it since minato dies and that already happened....had a brain fart. Either way, stiil not obito.

Dude shutup what do you mean it makes no sense? Of course it makes sense

 

[boshans]

give me one reason why OBITO would want to crush konoha.

 

[stu21]

give me one reason why OBITO would want to crush konoha.

That's not Tobi's main plan, if we take in account his moon's eye plan, makes sense to be Obito. He "died" in the war, if he survived he would want world peace, and that's what Tobi really wants, world peace. Tobi is not a "bad guy" he doesn't kill people, he only kills only when there's not other option, if he was a bad guy he would have killed Naruto already in the past, during the Kage summit, or when he first encountered him.
The attack to Konoha could be he testing his powers that maybe Madara gave to him.
Would make sense, Obito almost dead, Madara finds him, sees he is an Uchiha, reconstructs half of his body with a Zetsu, brain washes him knowing he is against wars, and ta dahh there you have Tobi.
I'm not saying Tobi is undoubtly Obito, I'm just saying it's not a so farfetched theory has you said, at this point is as credible as any other.

 

[Sasukeballinuchiha]

The only connection I see Tobi being Obito is the similarity in Kakashi's sharingan's alternate dimensional power similar to Tobi. If you take a look at all the members of akatski they are all freaks with eye power, regeneration techniques, mutations, and body enhancements. Orochimaru, Nagato, itachi, zetsu,deidara, heidan and kakuza, and even fish and puppet boy kisame. Most of them specialize in some limited imortality trick or body regenitive power so ofcourse Tobis arm will grow back using some trick.They were purely recruited because they are all pawns that serve a purpose to Tobi. ( look at the way he thinks naruto is just a toy to further sasuke along). If zetsu has senjus DNA in him then why do they need captain Yamato who is being used now in the war because he is one of the experiments to possess cells like the first hokage which creates the wood element jutsu which can further growth and regenerative properties which also are useful in suppressing the kyubis chakra ( and presumably the other tailed beasts as well.) I still feel Tobi is Sasuke's father (leader of the Uchiha) possibly trying to carry out the ideologies of Madara or izuna, perhaps he is the son or grandson of one of them. He and his wife were both missing when the kyubi attacked the village when itachi was taking care of sasuke, also Kushina told Sasukes mother about the birth. All this information received by Sasukes dad, it would be easy for him to have access and connections in konoha as he was leader of their police force and probably had ties with anbu and could get access to top secrete high intelligence matters in the village. He controlled the kyubi perhaps he controlled itachi the same and the zestu theory seems plausible as a way to clone or mask the killings. This would give more meaning to Sasukes parents dieing and narutos being killed because of Sasukes dad. Who knows if sasuke will change when he learns the truth. Sasuke heading toward the fight now with Tobi and naruto, no appearance yet from edotensei itachi, something is going down soon.

 

[stu21]

The only connection I see Tobi being Obito is the similarity in Kakashi's sharingan's alternate dimensional power similar to Tobi. If you take a look at all the members of akatski they are all freaks with eye power, regeneration techniques, mutations, and body enhancements. Orochimaru, Nagato, itachi, zetsu,deidara, heidan and kakuza, and even fish and puppet boy kisame. Most of them specialize in some limited imortality trick or body regenitive power so ofcourse Tobis arm will grow back using some trick.They were purely recruited because they are all pawns that serve a purpose to Tobi. ( look at the way he thinks naruto is just a toy to further sasuke along). If zetsu has senjus DNA in him then why do they need captain Yamato who is being used now in the war because he is one of the experiments to possess cells like the first hokage which creates the wood element jutsu which can further growth and regenerative properties which also are useful in suppressing the kyubis chakra ( and presumably the other tailed beasts as well.) I still feel Tobi is Sasuke's father (leader of the Uchiha) possibly trying to carry out the ideologies of Madara or izuna, perhaps he is the son or grandson of one of them. He and his wife were both missing when the kyubi attacked the village when itachi was taking care of sasuke, also Kushina told Sasukes mother about the birth. All this information received by Sasukes dad, it would be easy for him to have access and connections in konoha as he was leader of their police force and probably had ties with anbu and could get access to top secrete high intelligence matters in the village. He controlled the kyubi perhaps he controlled itachi the same and the zestu theory seems plausible as a way to clone or mask the killings. This would give more meaning to Sasukes parents dieing and narutos being killed because of Sasukes dad. Who knows if sasuke will change when he learns the truth. Sasuke heading toward the fight now with Tobi and naruto, no appearance yet from edotensei itachi, something is going down soon.

That would be a good theory except the fact that Sasuke have already seen Tobi's face when he told him the truth about Itachi, and if he was his father Sasuke would recognize him easly...

 

[Kirin Rei]

That's not Tobi's main plan, if we take in account his moon's eye plan, makes sense to be Obito. He "died" in the war, if he survived he would want world peace, and that's what Tobi really wants, world peace. Tobi is not a "bad guy" he doesn't kill people, he only kills only when there's not other option, if he was a bad guy he would have killed Naruto already in the past, during the Kage summit, or when he first encountered him.
The attack to Konoha could be he testing his powers that maybe Madara gave to him.
Would make sense, Obito almost dead, Madara finds him, sees he is an Uchiha, reconstructs half of his body with a Zetsu, brain washes him knowing he is against wars, and ta dahh there you have Tobi.
I'm not saying Tobi is undoubtly Obito, I'm just saying it's not a so farfetched theory has you said, at this point is as credible as any other.

He literally obliterated Konoha when he gained control of the Kyuubi. You may state that said action was for the greater good, so I'll move on to the next ones.
I don't know if you read the manga or not. If you haven't, scratch what I've said above and enjoy the happenings. :izuna:

If you have read the manga, take a look at the spoiler.

Spoiler

He snapped Fuu's neck without batting an eyelash. Even Kabuto commented on the heartlessness of said act.
Plus, we've seen his inner monologues. He doesn't give a shyte about Naruto. He only refrained from killing him so far, because he viewed him as a stalking horse for Sasuke.

 

[boshans]

Plus I don't think the real madara was still alive at the point obito died. I just really don't understand this theory. And who said obito was against war? I don't think he did. Plus he was a weak uchiha, why would madara want him. The only reason they showed the whole obito thing was to show how kakashi got his eye. And in the manga that was shown during the timeskip, kishi probably also created it so he didn't jump right into everyone being older, he needed a few chapters to think of everything.

 

[kisamexRocks]

Tobi is Madara. Of Zetsu was tobi, he would be dead as his spores die when hit. I don't think Zetsu can survive a rasengan.

 

[Ogracio]

I'm beginning to think that Tobi is somewhat related to sasuke's parents. Her mother new she was going to give birth soon, probably that day, because she saw her. And also, Itachi said something interesting, i wonder where father and mother are.

I know it has a lot of flaws and stuff, like the death of both by hands of Itachi (or could be some kind of jutsu and they wanted them to think that way).