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Okay so we've been hearing all this talk about whether Tobi is or isn't Danzo. There are people who are convinced that they're the same person, and there are people who are convinced that they're completely different people. People on this board who differ in this opinion have been throwing insults back and forth at each other acting as though the other side is idiotic for their beliefs.
I'm here to throw this all on its head.
Both sides are idiotic and both sides are wrong! Tobi IS Danzo. And Tobi ISN'T Danzo. It just depends on when were looking at Tobi.
So now you're wondering what the hell is this guy talking about? Its simple really. Tobi isn't just one person. Tobi is at times Madara, and at times Danzo. Tobi's mask is key in this idea. If he is just Madara, why in the hell does he just show one eye? It would be pointless, and in essence would limit his power by 1/2. We know Sasuke can create Amaterasu with one eye, and then put out the flames with the other. So it can be assumed that its the same with other Mangekyo's that each eye can control different things. So really if Tobi was just Madara it would be pointless to only show one eye through the mask.
So then why does Tobi's mask only show one eye? Simple. Danzo only has the Sharingan in one eye, so as Tobi he can't show both eyes. By limiting the person's view to one of his eyes, they can be led to assume he has it in both. This would prevent the characters in Naruto from trying to draw the Danzo=Tobi connection. If they know Danzo only has it in one eye, yet Tobi has it in both, then there is no possible way for Danzo=Tobi.
The main reason I'm thinking this is because of a simple thing someone else had pointed out in a previous thread. Danzo uses the training methods of kirigakure in order to create emotionless ROOT members. So then where did he pick up these methods? Kirigakure is a very closed door village that doesn't let others know whats going on. So how would Danzo even know about this method? Again, simple. Madara is a former Mizukage, or at least was in control of a former Mizukage. So Madara and Danzo join forces and become pals.
Now this is where it gets interesting. I'm going to explain how the idea of Akatsuki has long been in the works. It all starts with Pain and Itachi and Sasuke. What if Danzo and Madara had heard rumors of a child who was born with the fabled Rinnegan? The child would most certainly be an asset to their plans. So they teach the child the pains of war. By doing so they have created the life events that needed to occur for someone like Pain to be controlled, which he was. Next, we have Itachi and Sasuke. There were five people who knew the truth about Itachi. The 3rd, the two elders, Danzo and Madara. Now Madara had been in hiding since he was defeated by the 1st. There is no doubt in my mind that he could have stayed hidden had he wanted to. The only reason he would have came out of hiding and been "found" by Itachi is if he had heard of the plan to eliminate the Uchiha clan. So how did he find out about this plan? Simple. His good friend Danzo told him. Madara had two reasons for aiding Itachi. 1.) He wanted revenge against his clan for betraying him. 2.) He was pretending to test Itachi. But in actuality, Itachi wasn't the target, it was Sasuke.
Danzo knew Itachi was far too loyal to Konoha to actually become a loyal member of the Akatsuki. So what did he do? He went after Sasuke, and he went after Sasuke from a young age. He has Itachi kill the entire Uchiha clan and then join Akatsuki as a "spy". He did two things with this. 1.) Built hatred and a thirst for revenge in Sasuke (the same as he did to Pain) and 2.) Guaranteed that Sasuke would come in contact with Akatsuki by placing Itachi within their ranks. By doing this they would have gotten rid of Itachi, someone who could throw a wrench in their plans, and they would have picked up Sasuke, another genius Uchiha.
So there you have it. Danzo and Madara are BOTH Tobi. They are working together and are both pulling the strings. I sort of started off with a snowball here and worked it into an avalanche so I'm sure there are plenty of holes in it. Feel free to discuss! (and please keep it clean)
I'm here to throw this all on its head.
Both sides are idiotic and both sides are wrong! Tobi IS Danzo. And Tobi ISN'T Danzo. It just depends on when were looking at Tobi.So now you're wondering what the hell is this guy talking about? Its simple really. Tobi isn't just one person. Tobi is at times Madara, and at times Danzo. Tobi's mask is key in this idea. If he is just Madara, why in the hell does he just show one eye? It would be pointless, and in essence would limit his power by 1/2. We know Sasuke can create Amaterasu with one eye, and then put out the flames with the other. So it can be assumed that its the same with other Mangekyo's that each eye can control different things. So really if Tobi was just Madara it would be pointless to only show one eye through the mask.
So then why does Tobi's mask only show one eye? Simple. Danzo only has the Sharingan in one eye, so as Tobi he can't show both eyes. By limiting the person's view to one of his eyes, they can be led to assume he has it in both. This would prevent the characters in Naruto from trying to draw the Danzo=Tobi connection. If they know Danzo only has it in one eye, yet Tobi has it in both, then there is no possible way for Danzo=Tobi.
The main reason I'm thinking this is because of a simple thing someone else had pointed out in a previous thread. Danzo uses the training methods of kirigakure in order to create emotionless ROOT members. So then where did he pick up these methods? Kirigakure is a very closed door village that doesn't let others know whats going on. So how would Danzo even know about this method? Again, simple. Madara is a former Mizukage, or at least was in control of a former Mizukage. So Madara and Danzo join forces and become pals.
Now this is where it gets interesting. I'm going to explain how the idea of Akatsuki has long been in the works. It all starts with Pain and Itachi and Sasuke. What if Danzo and Madara had heard rumors of a child who was born with the fabled Rinnegan? The child would most certainly be an asset to their plans. So they teach the child the pains of war. By doing so they have created the life events that needed to occur for someone like Pain to be controlled, which he was. Next, we have Itachi and Sasuke. There were five people who knew the truth about Itachi. The 3rd, the two elders, Danzo and Madara. Now Madara had been in hiding since he was defeated by the 1st. There is no doubt in my mind that he could have stayed hidden had he wanted to. The only reason he would have came out of hiding and been "found" by Itachi is if he had heard of the plan to eliminate the Uchiha clan. So how did he find out about this plan? Simple. His good friend Danzo told him. Madara had two reasons for aiding Itachi. 1.) He wanted revenge against his clan for betraying him. 2.) He was pretending to test Itachi. But in actuality, Itachi wasn't the target, it was Sasuke.
Danzo knew Itachi was far too loyal to Konoha to actually become a loyal member of the Akatsuki. So what did he do? He went after Sasuke, and he went after Sasuke from a young age. He has Itachi kill the entire Uchiha clan and then join Akatsuki as a "spy". He did two things with this. 1.) Built hatred and a thirst for revenge in Sasuke (the same as he did to Pain) and 2.) Guaranteed that Sasuke would come in contact with Akatsuki by placing Itachi within their ranks. By doing this they would have gotten rid of Itachi, someone who could throw a wrench in their plans, and they would have picked up Sasuke, another genius Uchiha.
So there you have it. Danzo and Madara are BOTH Tobi. They are working together and are both pulling the strings. I sort of started off with a snowball here and worked it into an avalanche so I'm sure there are plenty of holes in it. Feel free to discuss! (and please keep it clean)
