[Theory] Tobi,Gai sensei, Madara and the forgotten memories!!!!!!!!!!

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I WILL GO STRAIGHT TO THE POINT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1- Rin's death is involved here

2-Kisame Hochikage is involved here..

3-the Mizukage of the Mist villlage is also involved here !!!

4- the Bloody Mist village or better said the origines of "the bloody era" of the mist is also involved here

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-BECARFULL OF FUZZY TRUTH !!!! <<---------------- itachi said that not me !!!!!!

-the mist village (kirikagure) was called "BLOODY" becuz of the set of turmoils and violence that spread in the village during the reign of the 4th mizukage "YAGURA"...and we all know that yagura at that time was controlled by "Tobi" ...so the reall miszukage in shadow was "tobi" !!!..

-many of you will think obito manipulated yagura and spoiled the mist village out of revenge for killing Rin...BUT NO!!!!

-go to chapter 606 or episode 345 PLZZ!!...when obito was about to attack the ANBU-MIST NINJAS,we see one of those Mist anbu telling obito : " dont underestimate the village of THE BLOODY MIST"....wtf?!...so it was called "bloody" even befor tobi was controlling yagura !!!!...that logically means that some1...a mastermind villain was already controlling the mizukage.....ITS UCHIHA MADARA !!!!!!..old madara...if madara was able to implant his Rinnegan to Nagato,then he is also able to manipulate the mizukage..also Madara couldv' done that via chakra rods !!..


-Madara was old and weak ,he can't carry on his moon eye plan by himself...when he he knew his death was nearing.and exactly after he awakned the Rinnegan, he had to act quick !!....so wat to do?

-he gave Nagato the Rinnegan , untill nagato master its power Madara is going to to force nagato use rinnetensei on him...but still madara would have to wait more years untill Nagato master its powers(like gedo mazo)...its as if Madara needs to prolong his life to keep an eye on nagato....then oooops BIG SURPRISE from santa clause fell on Madara's cave ,its called "OBITO UCHIHA"!!!....without obito's knowledge ,Madara sealed his other part or his empty shell inside obito's body and controlled him...madara finally become able to prolong his life...BUT!!...the old freeakin madara died !!...but the 2nd Madara didnt die...the immortal Madara..uchiha madara lived still within obito's body..TOBIDARA IS THE REALL TOBI !!...then tobidara integrated spiral zetsu within his body to allow him act like goofy guy and lead akatsuki from the shadow...

-now tobidara or better said the immortal Madara in his new form "tobi" is going to set the PLAN FOR YAHIKO'S DEATH so as to make Nagato join "madara's side"...

-now you have to focus on this : MADARA'S MASTEREVILNESS AND CELEVERNESS !!!


-madara was the one who set the plan for Rin's death...he is also the one who will set the plan for yahiko's death...both of nagato and obito were Narutos versions gone wrong ..thats why madara was able to influence them


-when he set the plan for Rin's death, Madara already calculated that obito will attempt to find the truth behind Rin's death + get his revenge by controlling the mizukage and spoiling him...

-so what happens is : when the masked man tobi manipulate the miszukage with his sharingan,obito will think he was the one who did it ...but NOOO!!!...it was uchiha Madara !!!...like how Madara manipulated the 3rd mizukage he will just carry on his old agenda by contrrolling the 4th mizukage this time.....see how obito fell victim for the fuzzy truth??..itachi was right when he said "reality may all be a Mirage"....itachi spoke with madara...if you think itachi was fooled by obito ..THEN YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG!!.....the reall masked man madara himself was amazed how itachi found him out, depite him hiding himself inside obito's body and acting like a goofy guy !!!!

-now Tobi needs new allies A TRUSTWORTHY MEMBERS, to carry on the moon eye plan...........his name is : KISAME HOCHIGAKE !! .........

-yagura approaches Kisame and tells him "reality is full of lies"....kisame says : how's that?...tobi appears from the shadows and shows his sharingan...kisame then says : ohh that sharingan controlling yagura.. so you were the reall mizukage!!..indeed reality is full of lies...but who are you??....Tobi then says : I AM UCHIHA MADARA!!!...kisame responds back : wtf? you must be kidding me , Madara is dead long time ago....then guess what?...madara says didn't i just tell you that reality is full of lies??...madara aproaches kisame and show him his reall face...its madara's face not OBITO's !!!!!!!....go to chapter 597 and 601...there's a portion of fleshh appearing in obito's right arm !!!...that is our 2nd madara !!...when madara takes full controll of obito's body..madara's cells surface on obito's senju dna-body....its madara emerging and showing his true Tobi form to kisame !!....only kisame and zetsus saw the true face of tobi....

-when naruto took out the bijuus from obito's body tobimadara emerged along with spiral zetsu and got separated from obito's body..without no1 noticing it....plz notice the right arm of obito after the juubi's extraction..and compare it with obito's right arm in chapters 601 and 597....see the difference?...after the juubi's extraction..that portion of flesh disappered from obito's body....

-rikudo Madara then goes to get his rinnegan from obito and tell him : " dude you are ME!!...you are not obito!!"..
but obito says : " noo...im obito uchiha of the leaf who wanted to be hokage"..then Madara sayd :"hmmm...looks like obito needs to learn a lesson.....TOBIMADARA !!!!! come here and tell this Bobito who he was !!!!"...tobidara then reveals the rest of tobi's mystery explanations...and how kisame and itachi were right when they said tobi was madara...

- ok im sorry i know i know i forgot about gai sensei !!!.....here we go...WHEN GAI REMEMBERS MADARA HE WILL DEFINITLY REMEMBER ABOUT KISAME HOCHIKAGE!!!....thats becuz Madara(tobi) and kisame were partners...and during some important incident (maybe the assassination of mizukage yagura)..gai met accedently with Madara and kisame and fought against them....i dont know how the revived Madara knows about gai...but if the revived Madara knows about gai...that means that Madara was watching kakashi's and rin's and gai's movements during obito's rehabilitations...ya know it was part of mdara's rin death plan...
 

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Madara was never Tobi. Which puts a giant dent in your theory.
 
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It's possible and would be interesting but unlikely.
 

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Obito was TOBI,so **** your BS. Didn't read after 1st line.
 

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I WILL GO STRAIGHT TO THE POINT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1- Rin's death is involved here

2-Kisame Hochikage is involved here..

3-the Mizukage of the Mist villlage is also involved here !!!

4- the Bloody Mist village or better said the origines of "the bloody era" of the mist is also involved here

======================================

-BECARFULL OF FUZZY TRUTH !!!! <<---------------- itachi said that not me !!!!!!

-the mist village (kirikagure) was called "BLOODY" becuz of the set of turmoils and violence that spread in the village during the reign of the 4th mizukage "YAGURA"...and we all know that yagura at that time was controlled by "Tobi" ...so the reall miszukage in shadow was "tobi" !!!..

-many of you will think obito manipulated yagura and spoiled the mist village out of revenge for killing Rin...BUT NO!!!!

-go to chapter 606 or episode 345 PLZZ!!...when obito was about to attack the ANBU-MIST NINJAS,we see one of those Mist anbu telling obito : " dont underestimate the village of THE BLOODY MIST"....wtf?!...so it was called "bloody" even befor tobi was controlling yagura !!!!...that logically means that some1...a mastermind villain was already controlling the mizukage.....ITS UCHIHA MADARA !!!!!!..old madara...if madara was able to implant his Rinnegan to Nagato,then he is also able to manipulate the mizukage..also Madara couldv' done that via chakra rods !!..


-Madara was old and weak ,he can't carry on his moon eye plan by himself...when he he knew his death was nearing.and exactly after he awakned the Rinnegan, he had to act quick !!....so wat to do?

-he gave Nagato the Rinnegan , untill nagato master its power Madara is going to to force nagato use rinnetensei on him...but still madara would have to wait more years untill Nagato master its powers(like gedo mazo)...its as if Madara needs to prolong his life to keep an eye on nagato....then oooops BIG SURPRISE from santa clause fell on Madara's cave ,its called "OBITO UCHIHA"!!!....without obito's knowledge ,Madara sealed his other part or his empty shell inside obito's body and controlled him...madara finally become able to prolong his life...BUT!!...the old freeakin madara died !!...but the 2nd Madara didnt die...the immortal Madara..uchiha madara lived still within obito's body..TOBIDARA IS THE REALL TOBI !!...then tobidara integrated spiral zetsu within his body to allow him act like goofy guy and lead akatsuki from the shadow...

-now tobidara or better said the immortal Madara in his new form "tobi" is going to set the PLAN FOR YAHIKO'S DEATH so as to make Nagato join "madara's side"...

-now you have to focus on this : MADARA'S MASTEREVILNESS AND CELEVERNESS !!!


-madara was the one who set the plan for Rin's death...he is also the one who will set the plan for yahiko's death...both of nagato and obito were Narutos versions gone wrong ..thats why madara was able to influence them


-when he set the plan for Rin's death, Madara already calculated that obito will attempt to find the truth behind Rin's death + get his revenge by controlling the mizukage and spoiling him...

-so what happens is : when the masked man tobi manipulate the miszukage with his sharingan,obito will think he was the one who did it ...but NOOO!!!...it was uchiha Madara !!!...like how Madara manipulated the 3rd mizukage he will just carry on his old agenda by contrrolling the 4th mizukage this time.....see how obito fell victim for the fuzzy truth??..itachi was right when he said "reality may all be a Mirage"....itachi spoke with madara...if you think itachi was fooled by obito ..THEN YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG!!.....the reall masked man madara himself was amazed how itachi found him out, depite him hiding himself inside obito's body and acting like a goofy guy !!!!

-now Tobi needs new allies A TRUSTWORTHY MEMBERS, to carry on the moon eye plan...........his name is : KISAME HOCHIGAKE !!.........

-yagura approaches Kisame and tells him "reality is full of lies"....kisame says : how's that?...tobi appears from the shadows and shows his sharingan...kisame then says : ohh that sharingan controlling yagura.. so you were the reall mizukage!!..indeed reality is full of lies...but who are you??....Tobi then says : I AM UCHIHA MADARA!!!...kisame responds back : wtf? you must be kidding me , Madara is dead long time ago....then guess what?...madara says didn't i just tell you that reality is full of lies??...madara aproaches kisame and show him his reall face...its madara's face not OBITO's !!!!!!!....go to chapter 597 and 601...there's a portion of fleshh appearing in obito's right arm !!!...that is our 2nd madara !!...when madara takes full controll of obito's body..madara's cells surface on obito's senju dna-body....its madara emerging and showing his true Tobi form to kisame !!....only kisame and zetsus saw the true face of tobi....

-when naruto took out the bijuus from obito's body tobimadara emerged along with spiral zetsu and got separated from obito's body..without no1 noticing it....plz notice the right arm of obito after the juubi's extraction..and compare it with obito's right arm in chapters 601 and 597....see the difference?...after the juubi's extraction..that portion of flesh disappered from obito's body....

-rikudo Madara then goes to get his rinnegan from obito and tell him : " dude you are ME!!...you are not obito!!"..
but obito says : " noo...im obito uchiha of the leaf who wanted to be hokage"..then Madara sayd :"hmmm...looks like obito needs to learn a lesson.....TOBIMADARA !!!!! come here and tell this Bobito who he was !!!!"...tobidara then reveals the rest of tobi's mystery explanations...and how kisame and itachi were right when they said tobi was madara...

- ok im sorry i know i know i forgot about gai sensei !!!.....here we go...WHEN GAI REMEMBERS MADARA HE WILL DEFINITLY REMEMBER ABOUT KISAME HOCHIKAGE!!!....thats becuz Madara(tobi) and kisame were partners...and during some important incident (maybe the assassination of mizukage yagura)..gai met accedently with Madara and kisame and fought against them....i dont know how the revived Madara knows about gai...but if the revived Madara knows about gai...that means that Madara was watching kakashi's and rin's and gai's movements during obito's rehabilitations...ya know it was part of mdara's rin death plan...

A - Obito was the one controlling the Mizukage, get over it [The Mizukage was a child when Kisame discovered him being controlled, if this was way before Obito, you have to factor Kisame's age being older than Orochimaru even, which is not the case at all], please note when he dropped the Tobi act he removed his mask to confirm it was the same man controlling the Mizukage, which we come to know now as Obito

B - Dude we had like a series of Obito flashbacks, and even now, you can see that Black Zetsu was an incorporation of Madara will, second Madara? and even now you still think Obito was being ''mind controlled'

Im sorry to spoil whatever ''epiphany'' you think you just had, but that theory is as useful as Braille Drivers Manual
 

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Nice theory super long but I like it might be true rep+
 

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Nice theory super long but I like it might be true rep+

thx a lot bro...if you want more proves check soem tobidara vids from this channel :
 

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A - Obito was the one controlling the Mizukage, get over it [The Mizukage was a child when Kisame discovered him being controlled, if this was way before Obito, you have to factor Kisame's age being older than Orochimaru even, which is not the case at all], please note when he dropped the Tobi act he removed his mask to confirm it was the same man controlling the Mizukage, which we come to know now as Obito

B - Dude we had like a series of Obito flashbacks, and even now, you can see that Black Zetsu was an incorporation of Madara will, second Madara? and even now you still think Obito was being ''mind controlled'

Im sorry to spoil whatever ''epiphany'' you think you just had, but that theory is as useful as Braille Drivers Manual

1- obito never stated that he controlled yagura...he just told kakashi that he knew the truth behind Rin's death..
2- your counter-arguments are weak ...if you count the period of time between Rin's death and kisame meeting with tobi...its at most 3 years...wich makes the possibility of yagura being manipulated by madara during obito's rehabiliation plausible...however ,in this thread,the mizukage who i said was being controlled by Madara during obito's rehabiliation was the 3RD MIZUKAGE not obito....
3-the black zetsu is madara's will but he isn't madara himself...black zetsu is madara's will = the most trustworthy pawn that madara can trust...why? becuz its part of madara...how can i say it?...its as if madara can't trust on hashirama's cells zetsus...but can only trust on his black zetsu will..got it now?..black zetsu doesnt even have the same voice of Madara..and he call madara "madara sama"...he is clearly A PAWN OF MADARA!!..but not a strong manifestation of madara's will...

4-plzzz next time read the manga well befor you write me bulllllshhits
 

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Been calling a flashback arc involving Gai, Madara, and Obito since the chapter dropped.
Kishi stalls us for another month or two while he scrambles for ideas.
 
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