[Spoilers] Tobi didn't start Akatsuki with Nagato, nor give him Rinnegan

Edge

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What annoys me the most is that the evidence to staring him right in the face.

You and me both mate, sometimes people will twist facts subjectively because it fits what they want, and not what the manga is telling them.

A good chunk of Tobito theorists WANT Tobi to be Obito, regardless of what Kishi has already established about him.
 

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Nice quoting evidence from Youtube, most reliable source of information in the world!

There's no evidence in the manga of Tobi meeting Madara, or of Tobi existing before the attack of Konoha. Only Tobi makes these claims and we all know he lied about who he was.

The present Tobi is not the same "Uchiha Madara" who apparently helped Yahiko start the Akatsuki.

But hey whatever, let's just wait for Tobi to be finally revealed as Obito or something and then maybe you'll know.

Kishimoto confirmed it, end of discussion. Why are you guys still argueing? Accept it,geez :shrug:
 

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Are you ****ing kidding me? You just disregarded that whole ****ing post. You need to open your shitty ass eyes and put two and two together. You said it yourself. You believe Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan. I gave you the ****ing manga picture that proved it pretty much. He said it himself. He died shortly after awakening the Rinnegan. He was expecting Nagato to revive him.

Here let me spam the damn manga pic for your blind ass

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Here, Madara is revived. His first thought is:
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Put two and two together.

Seriously, you're one of the most ignorant members I've found on the base.

You proved me right about Madara giving Rinnegan to Nagato, not ****ing Tobi, it's been a crap ton of chapters since we know Tobi =/= Madara.

What I'm saying is that Tobi did not ****ing exist back then. How thick can you be, seriously?

How about we just wait for the next chapter and continue this discussion in a "I told you so" thread that won't belong to you?
 

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You proved me right about Madara giving Rinnegan to Nagato, not ****ing Tobi, it's been a crap ton of chapters since we know Tobi =/= Madara.

What I'm saying is that Tobi did not ****ing exist back then. How thick can you be, seriously?

How about we just wait for the next chapter and continue this discussion in a "I told you so" thread that won't belong to you?

Sorry mate but the odds are stacked against you. See you Wednesday.
 

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What I'm saying is that Tobi did not ****ing exist back then. How thick can you be, seriously?

Confirmed by Kishi: Madara knew Tobi. We suspected it way earlier than that, but it's been set in stone. It's not 100% certain, but it's very likely Tobi was the one who gave Madara's eyes to Nagato. It's a fact Tobi is old and that he knew Madara. Thus, it can't be Obito.
 
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