[Spoilers] Tobi didn't start Akatsuki with Nagato, nor give him Rinnegan

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A lot of people still seem to confuse Tobi with Madara even though it's been made clear they're two different individuals.

Madara gave Rinnegan to Nagato and probably gave him the idea to start the Akatsuki. Tobi had nothing to do with this.

The reason why Tobi claimed to have given Rinnegan to Nagato and all that, is because he was pretending to be the original Madara. He had no business in the creation of Akatsuki, he just took things where Madara left them later on while pretending he was the same person.

This also means that there's no evidence of Tobi existing before the attack of Konoha. He's probably not that old.
 

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Probably should put spoiler somewhere. Before i started reading the manga i didnt know Tobi wasnt madara and i was pissed when someone spoiled it for me :p
 

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actually there is, cause he noes madara duhhhhhh which means hes his age, or like lil bit younger cause madara died not that longer after the fight at the valley of end so yea
 

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actually there is, cause he noes madara duhhhhhh which means hes his age, or like lil bit younger cause madara died not that longer after the fight at the valley of end so yea

Naruto also knows Madara.
 

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Naruto also knows Madara.
Yeah after he was revived, Tobi obvously knew him before.
So while you are right about him not doing these things he still has to be old enough to know Madara.
 

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Yeah after he was revived, Tobi obvously knew him before.
So while you are right about him not doing these things he still has to be old enough to know Madara.

Anybody interested in the story of the Uchiha knows Madara.
 

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actually there is, cause he noes madara duhhhhhh which means hes his age, or like lil bit younger cause madara died not that longer after the fight at the valley of end so yea

not really because madara knew nagato, who was relatively young
 

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Tobi knew Madara..

Confirmed by Madara and Kishi himself
Tobi gave Madara's eyes to Nagato.
 
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A lot of people still seem to confuse Tobi with Madara even though it's been made clear they're two different individuals.

Madara gave Rinnegan to Nagato and probably gave him the idea to start the Akatsuki. Tobi had nothing to do with this.

The reason why Tobi claimed to have given Rinnegan to Nagato and all that, is because he was pretending to be the original Madara. He had no business in the creation of Akatsuki, he just took things where Madara left them later on while pretending he was the same person.

This also means that there's no evidence of Tobi existing before the attack of Konoha. He's probably not that old.

How could Madara give Nagato the Rinnegan? As shown in the manga, Madara has both of this eyes. When people are brought back with Edo Tensei, they retain characteristics they had when they died thus Madara would have no eyes if he personally gave them to Nagato.
 

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Kishi said him self and if you even read the manga properly its clear and theres enough evidence that Madara and Tobi know each other, we will find out soon anyways all the history of Tobi.
 

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Ok then, here

Pretty Good actually. Your quoting the same interview, which does not answer the same question I keep asking you WHERE IN THE MANGA DOES MADARA SAY I KNOW TOBI IS DOING THIS, PLANNED THIS, ANYTHING!
 

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Pretty Good actually. Your quoting the same interview, which does not answer the same question I keep asking you WHERE IN THE MANGA DOES MADARA SAY I KNOW TOBI IS DOING THIS, PLANNED THIS, ANYTHING!

Are you dumb or something KISHI SAID THAT THEY KNOW EACH OTHER. you just don't want to believe the interview because then you will know what you're saying makes no sense. KISHI is the author, kishi said they know each other so they do.
 
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he just manipulated akutski
 
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