Tobi (current) vs. Madara (current)

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If Tobi had the bijuu then Tobi, no bijuu then madara
Don't think so - Madara is the perfect counter.

Sharingan - can control and suppress Bijus.
Mokuton - can do it as well.
Rinnegan - can control the Jinchuriki through the chakra rods.

Gedo Mazo - even if they are controlled by Tobi, they're still tied to Gedo Mazo (Madara as a Rinnegan user can also summon it).
 

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Don't think so - Madara is the perfect counter.

Sharingan - can control and suppress Bijus.
Mokuton - can do it as well.
Rinnegan - can control the Jinchuriki through the chakra rods.

Gedo Mazo - even if they are controlled by Tobi, they're still tied to Gedo Mazo (Madara as a Rinnegan user can also summon it).
he can only control them if they are not being already controlled. if madara could, why couldnt he summon kurama?
 

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Don't think so - Madara is the perfect counter.

Sharingan - can control and suppress Bijus.
Mokuton - can do it as well.
Rinnegan - can control the Jinchuriki through the chakra rods.

Gedo Mazo - even if they are controlled by Tobi, they're still tied to Gedo Mazo (Madara as a Rinnegan user can also summon it).
thats very true and the fact that Madara has EMS and Tobi doesnt gives him an even bigger advantage.
 

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he can only control them if they are not being already controlled. if madara could, why couldnt he summon kurama?
He wanted. But at this time Kurama was sealed in Narutos body, on this seal Madara has no influence. And Kurama himself helped Naruto, because Madara was going to control him. But Madara could control the Jinchuriki as well, Tobi control them also with the Rinnegan, by sending his Chakra into the chakra rods.

Gedo Mazo he can summon as well, because he's a Rinnegan user too.
 
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