Tobi can SOLO Hashirama and Madara

[lXxNaGaToxXl]

are you mad? tobi couldnt solo either in his current state let alone take them both on.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Rinnegan better than Nagato?
Need proof!

Uh... Compare Meteors. Nagato's Small @$$ Meteor VS Madara's Collosal planetary Comet. LMAO


And dont say he didnt do it on purpose. They are BOTH EDO so Nagato had no excuse to make it that small.




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[MilwaukeegHost]

The current Tobi [Sharingan + Rinnegan] vs Hashirama and EMS Madara [both Non edo]


Tobi :

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By feats Tobi is the Stongest :

1. Weild s/t greater than anyone.
2. Knows each and every Jutsu with details about its working and weaknesses.
3. Can use Rinnegan better than Nagato.
4. Has the ghost mode.
5. Can Summon the Nine-tailed beast [in not sealed in a jinchuriki]
6. Ordered a group S-rakned Shinobis who were capable of destroying the ninja world.
7. Has Gedo Mazo with 7 tailed beasts.
8. Can Regenerate.
9. Only one who used the perfect Izanagi
10. Rapes anyone [w/out s/t] in this scenario :

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11. Shit talks to BM Naruto who tied it with 5 tailed beasts....who knows what Tobi has to offer.

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Madara and Hashirama have hype and nothing else but even if they combine their powers I don't see how they are going to survive against :

Rinnegan + S/T + 7 tailed beasts [controlled via Rinnegan chains] + Knowledge + Intelligence.

EDIT : Why Tobi is a better Rinnegan user than Nagato ?

Spoiler

Nagato failed to control the beasts just like Tobi did...otherwise he could've won against Naruto in the first place

I mean If current Tobi were to attack Konoha for thr purpose of capturing the Nine-tails he would've succeeded.

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Madara + Hashi = Ultimate Tag Team. They might fight better than Hashi and Tobirama, they've fought eachother SO MANY TIMES they would probably be flawless in tagteam action working together. They battle experience between the both of them, plus the way both of their techniques are polar opposite but COMPLEMENT eachother... that tag team beats almost anyone @$$.



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[saar0507]

Defenses :

1. S/T
2. Ghost Mode
3. Izanagi [Defense as well as offence]
4. Rinnegan Techs [Defense as well as offence]
5. Gedo Mazo and the beasts [Defense as well as offence]

These are prolly the best defenses one could hope for.

Plus have you forgotten this that Tobi blocked Suigetsu's sword attack with bare hands.



Who the hell are you kid? just outta your diapers ?

Go read the Manga again with. And from now on Read OP before replying.

just so u know ghost mod have a huge risk... if madara will throw a blowing shurikan while tobi using the teleporting jutsu it might kill him cause the shurikan will blow up inside of him that what happen in konan fight

 

[cozolinofly]

agreed 100%. edo madara might stand a chance because of kabutos modifying but real ems madara and hashirama cannot win.
intangibility, teleportation, 7 bijuu control, chakra chains, genjutsu able to control kyuubi with base sharingan, gedo mazo, all rinnegan paths and abilities etc

80 years ago. and being the best doesnt mean he can get past preta path and teleporting

i really can't keep myself from making you a retarded :sy: ...same goes for thread owner

 

[ChibakuKaiten]

Alright, a couple things that I must comment, first: thread creator, your an idiot, 2nd - Tobi may have the rinnigan and sharingan, but I highly, and I mean HIGHLY doubt that Tobi has anywhere near as much chakra as Nagato did because hes an Uzumaki, and an actual inherator of the Rinnigan, Tobi no his is second rate and hes a Puss, hasn't done anything yet just manipulated thats pretty much it! Madara & Hashirama, uhhhhhh -- it's totally been stated to be one of the most powerful shinobi in the whole narutoverse, Tobi noob and hes probably just Obito anyway, jumble the letters of Obitos name, it can come out as tobi with and extra o that you have to get rid of, and its probably why they put Obito in the Naruto Generations game. He also only had one eye. This being before he had to steal pains rinnigan cause hes a *** and can't handle the fact he was born nowhere near as powerful as a rinnigan user. That third eye hole in his mask is probably going to just be a slot for a byakugan eye. IMO it's so Kishi is focusing way way to much on gay a$$ characters, all of them with the overpowered, over obsessed, being blown out of preportion, annoying azz Sharingan, when really its so over emphasized its just annoying and not cool anymore, its pathetic. Last but not least, BYAKUGAN FTW! (for the win) and (F### the world)!!!!!

 

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[USSJ Future Trunks]

Tobi may have the rinnigan and sharingan, but I highly, and I mean HIGHLY doubt that Tobi has anywhere near as much chakra as Nagato did because hes an Uzumaki, and an actual inherator of the Rinnigan

tobi gave nagato rinnegan and seems to wield it himself with much less difficulty

Tobi no his is second rate and hes a Puss, hasn't done anything yet just manipulated thats pretty much it!

what would you define as doing something then? i dont see how a puss would confront the entire world with just himself, zetsu clones and 7 bijuu. he never even planned on getting kabutos help. and im pretty sure manipulating things is what EVERY NINJA EVER does. hashirama manipulates wood which is the same as tobi manipulating gedo mazo.

Madara & Hashirama, uhhhhhh -- it's totally been stated to be one of the most powerful shinobi in the whole narutoverse,

its also been stated kabutos invincible, and pain is god. i guess those statements are totally incorruptibly right?

noob and hes probably just Obito anyway, jumble the letters of Obitos name

is that how you came up with obito? anagrams? take out rama and you get tobi! zomg tobi must be tobirama!

it can come out as tobi with and extra o that you have to get rid of,

lol if you have to get rid of letters to make it fit, why would it fit at all?

He also only had one eye. This being before he had to steal pains rinnigan cause hes a *** and can't handle the fact he was born nowhere near as powerful as a rinnigan user.

tobi: i gave nagato the rinnegan. so its only fair i take back what was mine to begin with.
madara cant handle the fact he lost to hashirama and so took his DNA. he cant handle the fact izunas equal to him and so ripped his eyes out. see? i can use your own logic against you.

IMO it's so Kishi is focusing way way to much on gay a$$ characters, all of them with the overpowered,

how are they overpowered? ovepowered is something like koto amatsukami. unblockable, uncounterable and haxed as ****.

Madara + Hashi = Ultimate Tag Team. They might fight better than Hashi and Tobirama, they've fought eachother SO MANY TIMES they would probably be flawless in tagteam action working together

lol they are the ultimate tag team because they hate each other enough to fight each other constantly? thats the opposite of being a good team. the perfect team is bee and a. brothers, fought side by side constantly, trust each other immensely and know each others powers etc.

Compare Meteors. Nagato's Small @$$ Meteor VS Madara's Collosal planetary Comet. LMAO


And dont say he didnt do it on purpose. They are BOTH EDO so Nagato had no excuse to make it that small.

how about the fact he had some control over his actions and wanted to lose, not kill everyone there.

 

[igbins09]

thats impossible.... i dnt agree with that... nnnnnaaaa its impossible.. sit down and think of hashirama's power talkless of madara's power.. thats like bring yin and yan together.

 

[ChibakuKaiten]

tobi gave nagato rinnegan and seems to wield it himself with much less difficulty. Doubt this, hes a lier and manipulator, you seriously cannot trust one single thing he spews out of his mouth!

Doubt that shiz, hes just saying that because he manipulates and lies so its probably just another one to try go get people to fear him more!

what would you define as doing something then? i dont see how a puss would confront the entire world with just himself, zetsu clones and 7 bijuu. he never even planned on getting kabutos help. and im pretty sure manipulating things is what EVERY NINJA EVER does. hashirama manipulates wood which is the same as tobi manipulating gedo mazo.

He confronted because he knew the shady stuff he was going to do and didn't until he had got rinni, etc. etc. and kabuto is the only one doing impressive stuff right now! and Manipulating people mentalities and trying to suade them to do what he wants not their abilities Smart azz!

its also been stated kabutos invincible, and pain is god. i guess those statements are totally incorruptibly right?

Kabuto is pretty much, but dumb overpowered sharingan has somethingas ridiculous as izanami which may i add = GAY and way to OP!

is that how you came up with obito? anagrams? take out rama and you get tobi! zomg tobi must be tobirama!

There is alot of foreshadowing about who tobi could be, lets see you come up with something more legit than! Your theories I challange you to so BRING IT!

lol if you have to get rid of letters to make it fit, why would it fit at all?

Again you don't have to say stuff like this, because being this literal is just dumb and a way for you to try and voice a valid point on my statement! Just being a smartazz, saying stuff to say it!

tobi: i gave nagato the rinnegan. so its only fair i take back what was mine to begin with.
madara cant handle the fact he lost to hashirama and so took his DNA. he cant handle the fact izunas equal to him and so ripped his eyes out. see? i can use your own logic against you. Trying to avoid a fight with Konan, n who would be dumb enough to keep one sharingan n get rid of the rinnigan!

how are they overpowered? ovepowered is something like koto amatsukami. unblockable, uncounterable and haxed as ****. might as well throw them into DBZ or something!

lol they are the ultimate tag team because they hate each other enough to fight each other constantly? thats the opposite of being a good team. the perfect team is bee and a. brothers, fought side by side constantly, trust each other immensely and know each others powers etc.

how about the fact he had some control over his actions and wanted to lose, not kill everyone there.

^ don't give 2 F###s about this statement

 

[milkduds112]

You must be out your damn mind.. Madara AND Hashirama would DESTROY
Tobi. Tobi is nothing, he is all talk. Only reason ppl fear is because no one knows who he truly is. And a weakling who STEALS power. Thats how you know he is nothing. True power comes from within. Why else would naruto or even sasuke come so far.

Honestly I think Naruto could solo Tobi.
All Tailed Beast On Your Side/Owning the NineTails > Controlling Beast.

 

[ChibakuKaiten]

You must be out your damn mind.. Madara AND Hashirama would DESTROY
Tobi. Tobi is nothing, he is all talk. Only reason ppl fear is because no one knows who he truly is. And a weakling who STEALS power. Thats how you know he is nothing. True power comes from within. Why else would naruto or even sasuke come so far.

Honestly I think Naruto could solo Tobi.
All Tailed Beast On Your Side/Owning the NineTails > Controlling Beast.

Let me know what you think about my replies and og comment to this users vast ignorance

 

[Raito]

Of course Tobi controls the Rinnegan on Nagatos level because he obtained those eyes on the level Nagato "trained" it. This is quite obvious because Tobi was already in the beginning able to read minds in an instant, summon Gedo Mazo and control several Bijus at once. There's no reason why Tobi couldn't use the other paths as well, because he obtained virtually Nagatos powers. If the talk is about Hashirama and Madara in their prime (EMS only) I believe Tobi could handle them, but if the talk is about the current Madara, Tobi can't handle him and Hashirama at once.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Doubt this, hes a lier and manipulator, you seriously cannot trust one single thing he spews out of his mouth!

sorry no. konan was about to die so anything he told her was irrelevant as she'd take it to the grave. tobi was given no reason to lie.

He confronted because he knew the shady stuff he was going to do and didn't until he had got rinni, etc. etc. and kabuto is the only one doing impressive stuff right now!

disagreed

lets see you come up with something more legit than!

heres something legit. it is not obito. it cant be obito. madara knows who tobi is and madara died when nagato was a little child. tobi controlled the mizukage and created the blood mist in the period between zabuza's childhood and mei becoming mizukage. which possibly was in the 2 year timeskip as sanbi was captured by tobi and deidara in part 2. ao also lived through it and even saw the genjutsu that stopped it. kisame saw tobis face and recognised it as former mizukage sama, the same man who controlled yagura. we know the reign continued at least until 6 or 7 years ago because haku lived in a time where people were still killing others with bloodline limits. so from the time of zabuza killing his classmates/kisame's youth and desertion of the village to haku's childhood was a nonstop reign of terror. zabuza killed everyone as a kid, 10 years old or so. he's almost as old as kakashi in part 1, and obito was as old. obito would have had to control the mizukage as a 7 year old to be the leader of akatsuki kisame recognised. explain to me how he did that unnoticed.

Tobi is nothing, he is all talk.

is that why hes practically beasting on naruto bee kakashi and gai all at once? he killed konan, torune and fu with ease, and controlled kyuubi. even minato said naruto was the only one who could stop him and this was before tobi got rinnegan.

And a weakling who STEALS power. Thats how you know he is nothing

madara stole izunas eyes and hashirama's DNA. i guess hes nothing. minato stole kyuubis power and gave it to naruto. i guess naruto is nothing.

Honestly I think Naruto could solo Tobi.

if naruto were alone hed have lost already

 

[ChibakuKaiten]

Of course Tobi controls the Rinnegan on Nagatos level because he obtained those eyes on the level Nagato "trained" it. This is quite obvious because Tobi was already in the beginning able to read minds in an instant, summon Gedo Mazo and control several Bijus at once. There's no reason why Tobi couldn't use the other paths as well, because he obtained virtually Nagatos powers. If the talk is about Hashirama and Madara in their prime (EMS only) I believe Tobi could handle them, but if the talk is about the current Madara, Tobi can't handle him and Hashirama at once.

Alright Raito, hows this food for thought! Forget the certain levels of power, at all times in their exhistance, now nad everytime they have been mentioned, im pretty sure madara would be the strongest and any place and time that they would be compared, not comparing time like years ago when madara just had EMS and tobi currently, its acenine to compare people from different times in an arguement like this, its just giving you something to say right now, but in all honesty its just useless to voice it cause its irrelevant!

 

[JimmyTwoTails]

ok this fight has the odds in Tobi's favor: He has all 7 bijuu under his command, rinnegan, sharingan, blah blah blah. Meanwhile the other 2 have limited to a status in which we really have no evidence of their powers or abilities in action.

With all that being said when you list the greatest Shinobis in the known world Madara and Harishama will be on that list while Tobi will not (before you flame me) because Tobi is not known to the world ( the only people who know of Tobi and the fact that he is NOT Madara are shinobi mostly high level)

there is no reason to believe the the two can figure out how to defeat Tobi the chakra chains that binded kyubi to Tobi were broken with brute strength not some special technique other than (plot no jutsu)

My point is tobi does not have vast amounts of Chakra he has been using the massive amounts of chakra stolen stolen from captured bijuu to do most of the stuff he has been doing and with out that he doesn't stand a chance in this fight even with S/T

 

[Utterly Gutsy Sage]

Tobi has no chance. Hashirama and Madara easy-mid difficulty.

 

[ChibakuKaiten]

sorry no. konan was about to die so anything he told her was irrelevant as she'd take it to the grave. tobi was given no reason to lie.[/QUOTE]

Plot no jutsu kishi is obcessed with sharingan so he would make him say that, we know hes a lier and manipulator, we have no proof that he gave him the rinnigan, so until im suaded to (know) with legit evidence that he did give them to him, until then the reasonable thing for us all to assume is that hes just lieing!

disagreed

heres something legit. it is not obito. it cant be obito. madara knows who tobi is and madara died when nagato was a little child. tobi controlled the mizukage and created the blood mist in the period between zabuza's childhood and mei becoming mizukage. which possibly was in the 2 year timeskip as sanbi was captured by tobi and deidara in part 2. ao also lived through it and even saw the genjutsu that stopped it. kisame saw tobis face and recognised it as former mizukage sama, the same man who controlled yagura. we know the reign continued at least until 6 or 7 years ago because haku lived in a time where people were still killing others with bloodline limits. so from the time of zabuza killing his classmates/kisame's youth and desertion of the village to haku's childhood was a nonstop reign of terror. zabuza killed everyone as a kid, 10 years old or so. he's almost as old as kakashi in part 1, and obito was as old. obito would have had to control the mizukage as a 7 year old to be the leader of akatsuki kisame recognised. explain to me how he did that unnoticed.

is that why hes practically beasting on naruto bee kakashi and gai all at once? he killed konan, torune and fu with ease, and controlled kyuubi. even minato said naruto was the only one who could stop him and this was before tobi got rinnegan.

madara stole izunas eyes and hashirama's DNA. i guess hes nothing. minato stole kyuubis power and gave it to naruto. i guess naruto is nothing.

Lol not all of narutos assets weren't stollen, please cut out the hasty comments!

if naruto were alone hed have lost already[/QUOTE]

 

[Itachi15]

how can people actually believe this or even come up with this dumb shit
Rinnegan Madara can solo Tobi

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

I'm speechless.

I don't f*ckin' believe this.