Toad Sage Mode Multiplier

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By how much does the Toad Sage Mode multiply the users base power? I'd say 5x the users base.
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This ain't DBZ.

OT: Probably about 2x to 3x
 
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I think it multiplies it by 3. Too lazy to search for a scan.
 

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Strenght: like 100 times, he lifted kurama
speed: 3x, he blitz asura path, shared vision could not see him
ninjutsu: 3x, nothing much
stamina: regains full stamina anytime he re-enters SM
 

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Strenght: like 100 times, he lifted kurama
speed: 3x, he blitz asura path, shared vision could not see him
ninjutsu: 3x, nothing much
stamina: regains full stamina anytime he re-enters SM
 

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The users should technically be 33% more powerful. But I guess it is more than that based on feats
 

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It has never been stated. Nobody knows for sure and anything anyone says on this thread is speculation.
 

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My opinion

SM = 2.5x
BSM = 100x
KCM = 500x
 

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The users should technically be 33% more powerful. But I guess it is more than that based on feats

Yeah technically , but alas he seems far more powerful . I wanted to know because if SM Multiplied Naruto's Bijuu Mode Chakra by 3x then he should be powerful than Complete (yin+yang) Kurama.
 

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See it like this,
the body is made of yin and yang
that 2 types, the senjutsu to be added has to be in the ratio 1:1:1 with the yin and yang, so BSM is like YIN YANG (senjutsu of same amount of either yin or yang)
thats talking about amount,
for potency i'm not so sure, but strenght is extremely amplified
 

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Yeah technically , but alas he seems far more powerful . I wanted to know because if SM Multiplied Naruto's Bijuu Mode Chakra by 3x then he should be powerful than Complete (yin+yang) Kurama.

Yes. If the multiplier is 3 that means that BSM naruto> full powered kyuubi. Nature energy seems to be far more powerful than spiritual and physical energy. So the multiplier should exceed even 3x
 

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The users should technically be 33% more powerful. But I guess it is more than that based on feats

Well it doesnt quite work like that. But if it did, then the user would be 50% more powerful. Because senjutsu is a equal part sage energy as it is yin and yang(which are 50/50)


But I would guess it is at least 3 times as strong. In chakra strength and such. Much stronger physically, and much less damage taken, and in addition to the recovery factor sage mode can have.
 

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He lift Pain's giant Rhino summon and sent him flying high into the air. Naruto even lifted Kurama.

People saying x3 or x5 need to think again. Base Naruto would even be able to lift Kurama's finger -_-
 

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WTH? It isn't 3 or 4. It is over a 100 times. If he can easily lift a giant rhino of several tons and kurama, then it means that his strength has changed from 100 kg capacity to 10 tons or even more.
 

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I can't believe some are saying 3 or 4. It's obviously much, much larger than that. If that were the case, 1 gated Lee and Guy would solo. My proofs.


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Kakashi stated that 9 tails chakra with no visible difference enhances ninjutsu by 3X. He stated that a tailless cloak is far more powerful than that. A tailed cloak would be even stronger. How is this important? Curse mark is a form of imperfect senjutsu, which means it's inferior to to a true SM like Toad Sage Mode.

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This demonstrates that an imperfect SM enhances ninjutsu to the exact same extent as a 1-tailed cloak. What this means is that a True Toad SM's enhancement is more powerful than a 1-tail cloak. So in other words SM enhancement is>>>>>>>>>>>>3X. For ninjutsu, we're talking about at least 10-20X as powerful. For the body, it's probably in the 100s, so it all depends on if the body and ninjutsu are enhanced at the same level.


In any case, the people who said that it only enhances by 3 are grossly underestimating SM. It's obviously, much, much more than that.


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Then how much would it multiply Naruto's Bijuu Mode?


The exact same extent.

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In order to effect Obito, Naruto's BSM attacks had to be senjutsu, which, by Fukasaku's definition, must mean that Kurama's chakra was perfectly balanced with natural energy. In other words, the enhancement level would be the same.
 
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