To those who wank Itachi but hate Sasuke.

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Alright...now, let me just say I niether bash nor wank either of the Uchiha bros. My wankin is saved for Kagami and Fugaku.

Now, I see a lot of people who support Itachi tend to bash Sasuke. A few examples I have seen mainly involve calling Sasuke a revenge driven, antisocial, emo, jerkass homo.

But have you forgotten, Itachi made him like that?

Honestly, when we see Sasuke before the Massacre, he is an average young boy. Loves his family, has an obvious case of Big-Brother worship, etc. Getting Tsukuyomi'd right after seeing your family murdered for 72 hours by the person you admired most would damage anyone's psyche, especially because it doesn't look as if Sasuke got any form of psychiatric help after.

And to really drive in the tragedy, just remember; Sasuke knew a large portion of the Uchiha, considering they were all living in the same compound. Now imagine if you were forced to watch your elder brother kill all of your friends and family for 3 straight days. I'm actually impressed Sasuke didn't just go brain dead then and there.

I'm not saying that Sasuke is a great guy or Itachi is a douche, just that Sasuke's personality is justified. And please don't try to pass the mind rape as a part of Itachi's brilliant plan, because the guy was only thirteen, already dealing with the stress of having to kill his own clan with his best friends suicide stacked on that to actually make any real effective plan. And I still doubt Itachi realized Sasuke was just an eight year old boy, and nowhere near as talented Itachi was at that age.
 

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Alright...now, let me just say I niether bash nor wank either of the Uchiha bros. My wankin is saved for Kagami and Fugaku.

Now, I see a lot of people who support Itachi tend to bash Sasuke. A few examples I have seen mainly involve calling Sasuke a revenge driven, antisocial, emo, jerkass homo.

But have you forgotten, Itachi made him like that?

Honestly, when we see Sasuke before the Massacre, he is an average young boy. Loves his family, has an obvious case of Big-Brother worship, etc. Getting Tsukuyomi'd right after seeing your family murdered for 72 hours by the person you admired most would damage anyone's psyche, especially because it doesn't look as if Sasuke got any form of psychiatric help after.

And to really drive in the tragedy, just remember; Sasuke knew a large portion of the Uchiha, considering they were all living in the same compound. Now imagine if you were forced to watch your elder brother kill all of your friends and family for 3 straight days. I'm actually impressed Sasuke didn't just go brain dead then and there.

I'm not saying that Sasuke is a great guy or Itachi is a douche, just that Sasuke's personality is justified. And please don't try to pass the mind rape as a part of Itachi's brilliant plan, because the guy was only thirteen, already dealing with the stress of having to kill his own clan with his best friends suicide stacked on that to actually make any real effective plan. And I still doubt Itachi realized Sasuke was just an eight year old boy, and nowhere near as talented Itachi was at that age.

Blah blah blah Sasuke sucks ****. Naruto's gonna put him down in the final battle.
 

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Did itachi ever say sasuke surpassed him?

He didn't, admittadely, but still. Itachi should know that forcing a young boy to watch his family murdered for days on end is nowhere near reasonable.
 

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Blah blah blah Sasuke sucks ****. Naruto's gonna put him down in the final battle.

I do not see why you quote my entire post just to veer off topic. I care little of what Sasuke sucks, and I highly doubt Naruto will put Sasuke down, considering Naruto can't face Kaguya on his own and Sexy Jutsu ain't gonna work a second time.

Please take your bashing elsewhere. Maybe Canada.
 

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It wasn't Itachis fault. Sasuke let himself get manipulated by Obito.
If Itachi didn't do all he had to do, Sasuke would alreay been dead! Murdered by Danzo and no one would have cared about him in Konoha. That's fact!
Itachi did that to make him tsrong to avoid exactly the way Sasuke chose to go! But like already said Sasuke decided to listen to Obito, believe on hatred and chose the wrongest way he coudl go.
 
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yeah itachi caused a mass on uchiha and he sucked. sasuke solos him
 

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I do not see why you quote my entire post just to veer off topic. I care little of what Sasuke sucks, and I highly doubt Naruto will put Sasuke down, considering Naruto can't face Kaguya on his own and Sexy Jutsu ain't gonna work a second time.

Please take your bashing elsewhere. Maybe Canada.

Itachi tortouring sasuke: He was bound to become the monster to save him like the one he became to save konaha by killing his kins.
 
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It wasn't Itachis fault. Sasuke let himself get manipulated by Obito.
If Itachi didn't do all he had to do, Sasuke would alreay been dead! Murdered by Danzo and no one would have cared about him in Konoha. That's fact!
Itachi did that to make hims trong to avoid exactly the way Sasuke chose to go! But like already said Sasuke decided to listen to Obito, which was the wrongest way he could go.

I'm not blaming Itachi. I admit that a large portion of problems stemmed from Obito manipulating Sasuke, but that would've been a lot harder if Sasuke wasn't so mentally damaged. In fact, had Itachi hadn't gone to such lengths to make Sasuke want revenge, Sasuke might not've joined Orochimaru. Hell, I honestly think Danzo getting his hands on Sasuke would've been an improvement, at least with Hiruzen's supervision. (As in makin sure Sasuke wasn't dead/missing eyes/had another eye/completely emotionless).
 

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I'm not blaming Itachi. I admit that a large portion of problems stemmed from Obito manipulating Sasuke, but that would've been a lot harder if Sasuke wasn't so mentally damaged. In fact, had Itachi hadn't gone to such lengths to make Sasuke want revenge, Sasuke might not've joined Orochimaru. Hell, I honestly think Danzo getting his hands on Sasuke would've been an improvement, at least with Hiruzen's supervision. (As in makin sure Sasuke wasn't dead/missing eyes/had another eye/completely emotionless).


Do you really think Danzo would have let Sasuke being alive? He would have done the same he did to Shisui.
I don't blame Sasuke, but it is fact that after he heard the truth about his brother, Obito started to use this to make him that hatred dude he is.
 

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It's quite clear that Itachi played a role in Sasuke's actions. What sort of moron tortures a kid for 24 hours, and EXPECTS said kid to be sane, loyal and good in the future? That's tough for a normal kid, but given that this is the Uchiha(who are mentally screwed up-which I am sure Itachi knew about.) it makes Itachi's actions ever more brain dead and moronic. So yeah.
 
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I agree. The solo king should take responsibility for his actions. We all thought he was a villian prior to his death
 

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Itachi did the right thing. Why should he be blamed for an idiot named Sasugay that let's himself get trolled by a even bigger idiot named Obito.
 

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My last thread isn't there because your butt hurt virgin ass reported me. I knew all SASUKE stalkers where gay little EMO virgins but I didn't know they also had an inferiority complex where they feel the need to bash a character like NARUTO HMMMMM sounds like what YOU are doing right now. So keep up with the damn innocent act ass hole. And the dildo thing sound like you're speaking from personal experience I'm sure you gay little SASUKE **** suckers practice that while you jerk off to SASUKE panels in the manga. *Sniffles* It's ok I know...

Ha ha....Wat is this I don't even my brain is full of wat
 

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Itachi did the right thing. Why should he be blamed for an idiot named Sasugay that let's himself get trolled by a even bigger idiot named Obito.

Obvious Troll is Obvious.
 

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Kishi's usage of words like, "Madara turns evil", "Sasuke is consumed by darkness" and all seems so cliche' and childhish, because Madara and Sasuke were and never are evil. Sasuke turned into a murdering pyschopath, once he knew the truth about Itachi. His behavior was justified until Danzo's killing, after which his character turned meh..take Obito's case. He had no friends to share his sorrow of Rin's death, but Sasuke even after being mind-raped had his comrades. He almost turned back normal, until the Sound 5 arrived. It clearly affected his ever changing sensitive mind. It took Hashirama's words for him to realize that what his brother had done for him. However, Itachi's actions aren't completely justified. How did he expect a normal, sensitive kid to not find the truth about him/or remain normal after his Tsukuyomi mind****. Itachi's intentions were right, but his method wrong.

Though Kishi made it up by keeping Sasuke's character mysterious.

Naruto is too idealistic, while Sasuke doesn't care even if he spills blood for peace.
 
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