"To this day, there is no ninja existing who surpasses his power."

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Hashirama Senju, unsurpassed any shinobi?

What is your opinion on this statement from the fourth databook.

From what we know:

Obito surpassed him for couple of minutes
Madara surpassed him for couple of minutes
Naruto and Sasuke had rikudou powers for couple of hours.


Could that mean, no ninja has surpassed Hashirama's power on a consistent basis?





(I don't fully heartily agree with the statement, so yea.)
 

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Obito surpassed him for couple of minutes
Madara surpassed him for couple of minutes
Naruto and Sasuke had rikudou powers for couple of hours.

WTF is this supposed to mean? Lol They surpassed him all together, not for "a few minutes" smh
 

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I think it means excluding Juubi jins and sage chakra
 

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I think current Naruto and Sasuke has surpass him on consistent basis
 

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I'm sure adult Naruto and Sasuke can beat him but that's just speculation.
 

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That's a hyperbole. Naruto was noted to surpass Hashirama by both Kakashi and Tobirama. It pretty much is saying how powerful Hashirama was.
 

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WTF is this supposed to mean? Lol They surpassed him all together, not for "a few minutes" smh

To attain a power greater than someone for couple of minutes is not considered surpassing in the real world.

You can gain a power for a certain period of time superior to your opponent by taking implants, however, that does not mean you have surpassed your opponent.

Permanent vs Temporary.

And I'm trying to make sense out of Kishimoto's words, not make up my own stuff.

That's a hyperbole. Naruto was noted to surpass Hashirama by both Kakashi and Tobirama. It pretty much is saying how powerful Hashirama was.

He was noted to surpass Hashirama as a leader. (since he was leading the alliance and etc.)

But Tobirama never said he is better than Hashirama. :p (unlesss I overlooked the scan).
 

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Madara surpassed Hashirama when he was blind, and alive, while hashirama was edo
 

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Those were Kabuto's exact words.

The statement in the databook was used in this context, most likely.

Naruto and Sasuke surpassed him. Even in chapter 700 they are stronger.
 

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Naruto and sasuke obviously shit all over him.
 

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Don't worry about him, he misinterprets scans on purpose to make his feelings about his favourite relevant.

OT: Idk.

These new members are weird.
 

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Those were Kabuto's exact words.

The statement in the databook was used in this context, most likely.

Naruto and Sasuke surpassed him. Even in chapter 700 they are stronger.

@Bold, how do you know?

In the databook the quote is used to introduce his power, from what i read.

Kabuto's words were : No ninja alive today
 

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Hashirama was surpassed when:

1- Obito got his DMS
2- Kakashi got DMS
3- Naruto went RM
4- Madara was revived as a edo - notice that edo madara was still restricted of rinne usage so it was basically EMS madara vs hashi all over again, which hashi shitstomps
5- Kabuto got DSM
6- Nagato mastered his Rinne
7- Sasuke got Rinne
and many more

hashi is still top 10 i think​
 

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I find the fact that he could enter Sage Mode instantly most impressive.

Dat easy satisfaction.
 
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