TimeSkip Naruto VS TimeSkip Sasuke

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Sasuke can see through peoples move and can easily place Naruto in a genjutsu since he ain't immune to it.... As the movie proved, even Sakura woke up before him and released him, let that sink in Lol

What sneak attack? :rolleyes:

Perfect Jinchuriki (without Bijuu's help) is not immune to genjutsu.
"Genjutsu doesn't work on Perfect Jinchuriki", meant Bijuu helps Jinchuriki get out of the genjutsu.
Kurama won't help Naruto get out of Hinata's memories (genjutsu), looks like Kurama lets him watch her memories.
 
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Please, you're the guy who thinks Naruto lost RSM Lol. Your opinion on these topics is irrelevant.



I'm still not seeing a valid argument here.
Funny thing is, not one single person can prove me wrong... To me your just a poser..

Let's say Naruto has everything right. Full Kruma, RSM AND Hinat's chakra... How can he beat Sasuke? Sasuke has a counter for every single thing Naruto has.
 

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Damn right I'm enjoying this lol, I love naruto more than sasuke, but with full mastery of the rinnegan Sasuke would have the advantage in this fight tbh.

You shouldn't have said that.Now he's going to type insults to you to.I made a similar comment to yours earlier and he's been after me since,but yeah it is pretty fun watching he get so bent out of shape over this.
 

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Holy god. You are still going? First of all: There is NO way Naruto is learning every KKG. You are an Idiot if you believe this will happen. So what, Naruto is randomly going to start attacking Sasuke with his bones like Kimmimaro, cause thats a KKG. Or better yet, He is going to use a god damn Blaze Release, right? Listen to what I say carefully. Naruto will NOT learn every KKG. The only KKG he will learn are the ones the Bijuu give to him. If you dare try to argue this, you are an idiot. Cold Truth.

You were right. RinneSharingan is not the only KKT. You were wrong, Naruto is not learning every KKT. Naruto is not just going to GET every KKT. No. The only KKT he has, and will ever have, are the TSB.

So we were not able to get it through your head that Naruto can not transform into every bijuu? Okay then how come Sasuke wasnt able to? Cause like Naruto, He recieved Chakra from the bijuu, so with your logic he is able to transform huh? Get this through your head: Naruto can NOT transform into every Bijuu. He can only draw power from them.

Not sure if those are chakra rods or TSB, but I will give you the benifit of the doubt. What are those Chakra rods suppose to do in Naruto and Sasuke's fight? Sasuke was already showed to be immune to them U_U

@Bold: You didn't own anyones ass. If anything, we owned yours. You are just to stubborn to admit it U_U

Tell me how sasuke can learn Every Element when he only learnt Chidori and his variants in his whole life.He just relies on his Dojutsu.You will be an idiot to think that sasuke will learn every element.
I just used the same logic which you were using.If sasuke can learn all elements when he uses dojutsus most of the times then why naruto cant learn all elements and KKGs when naruto uses elemental jutsus most of the times?

Sasuke just used his Gedo mazou as a vessel to receive Bijuu chakra.Bijuus gave their chakra to naruto with their own wish.Transforming into other 8 bijuus is a POSSIBILITY.

Naruto can make chakra rods just like pain.
Chakra rods can immobilize their victims. Sasuke was not immune to them.He just pulled them out of Tobirama.

If i goes by your logic then Naruto is also immune to chakra rods as naruto pulled them out of pain's body

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Tell me what Human path can do against naruto when naruto has the best sensory abilities and reflex actions which even made him to dodge kaguya's teleportation?

Tell me what animal path can do against naruto when SM naruto was able to obliterate them?

They can do nothing but they are in sasuke's arsenal.Same goes for naruto.Naruto have Chakra rods no matter what they can do against sasuke.

I owned your ass but you cant accept it.:cool:

you wrote that naruto didn't have all KKGs and elements but now you are writing that naruto cant learn them.

You wrote that naruto didnt have chakra rods now you are writing that it will not help naruto against sasuke.

I owned your ass that's why you are bringing up other BS
 
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Pain only had one sixth power of the rinnegan since the power was divided between the six pains, he also wasn't the original owner Madara was, despite that Naruto still got wrecked once Deva pain got his power back, Kurama damaged and nearly killed him by himself since Naruto had no control what so ever



Naruto is weak against any form of genjutsu, the movie proved this, perfect jins being immune to genjutsu is bs, it only worked with Bee

So Naruto the one with the stronger and smarter Bijuu... it doesn't apply to him? Okay. Beautiful logic.
Who are you to claim someones opinion on this is irrelevant, when you are still stuck on "Sasuke lost to half Kurama Naruto. There is no way Sasuke is beating full powered Naruto."

Please U_U

No, it makes perfect sense, you all are just too biased to see it (which is why I only like a few people from the Sasuke fan base and I'm individualistic myself for liking Sasuke so much).

Sasuke LOSES the Bijuu (weaker PS) but gains Rin'negan mastery.
Naruto LOSES NOTHING and gains Full Kurama and most likely mastery of the Bijuu KKG (Meaning more versatility and stronger, faster and larger Ashura's Avatar).

Now tell me, if they stalemated last time when Sasuke had one but not the other, how does Sasuke win when Naruto got multiple times stronger and lost nothing?
 

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1.You said that red barrier seal is not possible and now you are writing that Ame can Counter it.
First learn to write.
Anyways Sasuke's Ame has limited range while Red barrier can cover all SA.

2.Naruto doesn't need to transform in the other tailed beasts.His clones can do that job.
We are talking about future naruto moron

3.Do you even have a brain?
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NOW GTFO

Lel @ your insults. Terrible. Lol

1) I'll say this for the final time, Naruto can't use the barrier seal. Obito had used the rods as a replacement to the four ninja's that are normally required for the jutsu, and he initiated the jutsu from his prior knowledge of the jutsu. Naruto doesn't know how to use the jutsu, therefore he cannot formulate it. I don't know why you keep on desperately hanging on to the fact that he can use barrier seal, when in fact it is lol-diffed multiple ways. :|


2) Again, Naruto can't transform into other tailed beasts, because he does not posses their chakra anymore.


3) And again, this is obito, not Naruto. Wiki disagrees.
To create truth seeking balls one must combine 4 different chakra types. That does not mean that he is capable of using jutsu from other elements. Which he never has. His mind is too small for that.


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So Naruto the one with the stronger and smarter Bijuu... it doesn't apply to him? Okay. Beautiful logic.


No, it makes perfect sense, you all are just too biased to see it (which is why I only like a few people from the Sasuke fan base and I'm individualistic myself for liking Sasuke so much).

Sasuke LOSES the Bijuu (weaker PS) but gains Rin'negan mastery.
Naruto LOSES NOTHING and gains Full Kurama and most likely mastery of the Bijuu KKG (Meaning more versatility and stronger, faster and larger Ashura's Avatar).

Now tell me, if they stalemated last time when Sasuke had one but not the other, how does Sasuke win when Naruto got multiple times stronger and lost nothing?

Sasuke didn't lose anything..

He can take chakra from Naruto recreating his new PS Mode.
 

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Sasuke didn't lose anything..

He can take chakra from Naruto recreating his new PS Mode.

Yes. He lost access to the Bijuu chakra whereas he gained Rin'negan mastery. He can't do what you said. He can't absorb when they're in Susano'o and Ashura's Avatar.
 

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Pain only had one sixth power of the rinnegan since the power was divided between the six pains, he also wasn't the original owner Madara was, despite that Naruto still got wrecked once Deva pain got his power back, Kurama damaged and nearly killed him by himself since Naruto had no control what so ever



Naruto is weak against any form of genjutsu, the movie proved this, perfect jins being immune to genjutsu is bs, it only worked with Bee

This retard is mad. You are just denying manga fact cause it would made your fav inferior.

It seems like you have a mind of a pig.
 

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Yes. He lost access to the Bijuu chakra whereas he gained Rin'negan mastery. He can't do what you said. He can't absorb when they're in Susano'o and Ashura's Avatar.
Like I said, Sasuke can absorb chakra from Naruto recreating his new PS form..

Sasuke can use chidori in PS and S/T in PS but can't absorb chakra in PS, I'm not buying it.
 

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So Naruto the one with the stronger and smarter Bijuu... it doesn't apply to him? Okay. Beautiful logic.


No, it makes perfect sense, you all are just too biased to see it (which is why I only like a few people from the Sasuke fan base and I'm individualistic myself for liking Sasuke so much).

Sasuke LOSES the Bijuu (weaker PS) but gains Rin'negan mastery.
Naruto LOSES NOTHING and gains Full Kurama and most likely mastery of the Bijuu KKG (Meaning more versatility and stronger, faster and larger Ashura's Avatar).

Now tell me, if they stalemated last time when Sasuke had one but not the other, how does Sasuke win when Naruto got multiple times stronger and lost nothing?

Sasuke gained alot more aswell.He didn't even use half of the Rinnegans powers - Animal Path,Revival Path,Asura Path,Shinra Tensei,he couldn't absorb and use another technique at the same time,(Preta Path wasn't mastered). Sasuke can mastered all other Basic Nature elements in which he hasn't already,meaning - Earth,Water,and Wind.He can also mastered nearly all Jutsu.

I see you're saying Naruto gained mastery over the Bijuus KKG,and full Kyuubi - Sasuke has gained more.This time,he can absorb and use techniques at once,so all the RS that Naruto throw at him will be absorbed thus powering Sasuke up even more.
 

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I'll just repost my argument in another thread from earlier.



Naruto wins, med-high difficulty.

Naruto already had mastery over the KKG, that's why all he does is ask the bijuu for their chakra. They literally do it for him, and we saw what he would do with that chakra.

Sasuke can use preta path through Susano'o. Sasuke can use outerpath the exact same way Madara did, since he has the power to summon the Gedo Mazou. Even if he didn't he could use his PS.

Deva path can be used to pull Naruto where ever he wants, even if it's just to take Naruto off balance. He has increased his power by a lot as seen by his new Chidori. Imagine his S/T, which Naruto can't react to. Heck, he could use the same move as what he did in the beginning of the fight and realky hurt Naruto now. Not to mention the last proves that Naruto is still very susceptible to genjutsu.

2 of these moves easily end Naruto aince he has no counters. The only new thing Naruto gets from being an adult is full Kurama.
 

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Like I said, Sasuke can absorb chakra from Naruto recreating his new PS form..

Sasuke can use chidori in PS and S/T in PS but can't absorb chakra in PS, I'm not buying it.

Read the description of Preta Path.

"The users chakra moves in reverse and absorbs the chakra". It's the exact opposite of the users chakra outwardly spouting and using Susano'o. Nobody can use Preta and jutsu at the same time. The only time Sasuke would get a chance to use Preta is when they're fighting with Taijutsu, but the battle will be over before that, in Naruto's favour.
 

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Naruto already had mastery over the KKG, that's why all he does is ask the bijuu for their chakra. They literally do it for him, and we saw what he would do with that chakra.

Sasuke can use preta path through Susano'o. Sasuke can use outerpath the exact same way Madara did, since he has the power to summon the Gedo Mazou. Even if he didn't he could use his PS.

Deva path can be used to pull Naruto where ever he wants, even if it's just to take Naruto off balance. He has increased his power by a lot as seen by his new Chidori. Imagine his S/T, which Naruto can't react to. Heck, he could use the same move as what he did in the beginning of the fight and realky hurt Naruto now. Not to mention the last proves that Naruto is still very susceptible to genjutsu.

2 of these moves easily end Naruto aince he has no counters. The only new thing Naruto gets from being an adult is full Kurama.

I suggest you read up on the description for Preta Path before making such a claim. Sasuke can't do that. No Rin'negan user can.

Also, Naruto can't react to Amenotejikara? Naruto partially reacted to it the first time he used it on him and that was with a diversion and Naruto forgetting that Sasuke had that eye power. Naruto easily reacts to it.
 

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Read the description of Preta Path.

"The users chakra moves in reverse and absorbs the chakra". It's the exact opposite of the users chakra outwardly spouting and using Susano'o. Nobody can use Preta and jutsu at the same time. The only time Sasuke would get a chance to use Preta is when they're fighting with Taijutsu, but the battle will be over before that, in Naruto's favour.
Nagato used preta path and human path at the same time while fighting Naruto... You still haven't told me how Sasuke lose.
 

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Tell me how sasuke can learn Every Element when he only learnt Chidori and his variants in his whole life.He just relies on his Dojutsu.You will be an idiot to think that sasuke will learn every element.
I just used the same logic which you were using.If sasuke can learn all elements when he uses dojutsus most of the times then why naruto cant learn all elements and KKGs when naruto uses elemental jutsus most of the times?

Sasuke just used his Gedo mazou as a vessel to receive Bijuu chakra.Bijuus gave their chakra to naruto with their own wish.Transforming into other 8 bijuus is a POSSIBILITY.

Naruto can make chakra rods just like pain.
Chakra rods can immobilize their victims. Sasuke was not immune to them.He just pulled them out of Tobirama.

If i goes by your logic then Naruto is also immune to chakra rods as naruto pulled them out of pain's body

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Tell me what Human path can do against naruto when naruto has the best sensory abilities and reflex actions which even made him to dodge kaguya's teleportation?

Tell me what animal path can do against naruto when SM naruto was able to obliterate them?

They can do nothing but they are in sasuke's arsenal.Same goes for naruto.Naruto have Chakra rods no matter what they can do against sasuke.

I owned your ass but you cant accept it.:cool:
Okay. I will prove you why sasuke can use every element. 1) Its been stated multiple times that Rinnegan = Mastery of all elements. But lets not listen to that, right? Here is something else for you:
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Look at what Orochimaru says about Sasuke. There, MangaPhax, Dont argue this with me again.

To say anyone can learn every KKG is just dumb on a whole new scale. There is a diffrence between every element and every KKG. Naruto has more KKG then Sasuke, because he has the Bijuus chakras inside of him. But that doesnt mean he has every KKG. This is the last time I will go over this. If you still refuse to listen, that is your problem, your arrogance.

Yes. Sasuke and Naruto are immune to Chakra rods :| . Yes Sasuke is immune to Chakra rods... That is kind of why Tobirama was surprised when Sasuke touched madaras rods.

It was fun debating with you. If you still fail to listen to the things I have posted you... Idk, you must be trolling.
 

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Nagato used preta path and human path at the same time while fighting Naruto... You still haven't told me how Sasuke lose.

No he didn't. He used it separately. He grabbed Naruto, absorbed his cloak (like he did against Bee) and then attempted to take his soul with Human Path. Sasuke cannot maintain Susano'o and absorb chakra with Preta at the same time. The data book and the manga have already shown this.
 

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No he didn't. He used it separately. He grabbed Naruto, absorbed his cloak (like he did against Bee) and then attempted to take his soul with Human Path. Sasuke cannot maintain Susano'o and absorb chakra with Preta at the same time. The data book and the manga have already shown this.
No. Nagato was taking his soul with human path, then Naruto attempted to hit him with a resengan and Nagato absorb it while in the process of taking his soul.. That's two Jutsu being used at the same time.

Still waiting on how Sasuke lose...
 

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Sasuke gained alot more aswell.He didn't even use half of the Rinnegans powers - Animal Path,Revival Path,Asura Path,Shinra Tensei,he couldn't absorb and use another technique at the same time,(Preta Path wasn't mastered). Sasuke can mastered all other Basic Nature elements in which he hasn't already,meaning - Earth,Water,and Wind.He can also mastered nearly all Jutsu.

I see you're saying Naruto gained mastery over the Bijuus KKG,and full Kyuubi - Sasuke has gained more.This time,he can absorb and use techniques at once,so all the RS that Naruto throw at him will be absorbed thus powering Sasuke up even more.

And how does this discredit anything I said?

Human, Animal, Naraka and Outer Path are all useless against Naruto. Only Deva and Preta are threatening at all, along with Amenotejikara and potentially Limbo assuming Sasuke has it. Asura is supplementary and won't do any damage to Naruto. Sasuke has a weaker PS than his Bijuu PS whereas the Avatar Naruto combatted Sasuke's Bijuu PS with has gotten twice as strong. Sasuke's full power pales in comparison to Naruto's as of the epilogue, you can't discredit this. He can't absorb and use jutsu at the same time, the DB already proved this. Nature elements? In a battle of Gods? Don't make me laugh. Yes Sasuke has more versatility, but majority of it besides PS, Deva, Preta and Amenote are useless against someone of Naruto's power.
 

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Tell me how sasuke can learn Every Element when he only learnt Chidori and his variants in his whole life.He just relies on his Dojutsu.You will be an idiot to think that sasuke will learn every element.
I just used the same logic which you were using.If sasuke can learn all elements when he uses dojutsus most of the times then why naruto cant learn all elements and KKGs when naruto uses elemental jutsus most of the times?

Sasuke just used his Gedo mazou as a vessel to receive Bijuu chakra.Bijuus gave their chakra to naruto with their own wish.Transforming into other 8 bijuus is a POSSIBILITY.

Naruto can make chakra rods just like pain.
Chakra rods can immobilize their victims. Sasuke was not immune to them.He just pulled them out of Tobirama.

If i goes by your logic then Naruto is also immune to chakra rods as naruto pulled them out of pain's body

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Tell me what Human path can do against naruto when naruto has the best sensory abilities and reflex actions which even made him to dodge kaguya's teleportation?

Tell me what animal path can do against naruto when SM naruto was able to obliterate them?

They can do nothing but they are in sasuke's arsenal.Same goes for naruto.Naruto have Chakra rods no matter what they can do against sasuke.

I owned your ass but you cant accept it.:cool:

you wrote that naruto didn't have all KKGs and elements but now you are writing that naruto cant learn them.

You wrote that naruto didnt have chakra rods now you are writing that it will not help naruto against sasuke.

I owned your ass that's why you are bringing up other BS

Sasuke uses a wide variety of Jutsu,he hasn't only mastered Chidori and variants,he also mastered Kirin,and Fire Style Jutsu.He has used many Fire Style techniques throught the story.

The Sharingan can perfectly copy any jutsu besides KKG,which i supported by posting this page earlier.



Get it? I posted it for what Orochimaru said about SASUKE,not Naruto.
 
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