Timeline EXPLANATION

[ShadowPossesion]

oh an alive

 

[ShadowPossesion]

an one more thing wen tobi attacked the village the 1st time the 9tails reconized him so was it the same person or is tobi casting an illusion with his sharingan 2 make himself look like obito?

 

[Mejkl3]

1. i never said tobi is obito or is not. i sarcastically stated we still don't know 100%. i'm not gonna argue over who he is, because we know this isn't about that. i dont care who he is, i just want the explanation like the rest of us.

2. i never expressed any form of hate towards your timeline. i expressed that it doesn't help anything and is ultimately useless.

3. i'm very healthy.

4. loyalty to the series means little. yeah, good effort and ur timeline makes sense, but doesn't help too much

5. don't get so emotional.

About 90% people on this thread posted that it made sense and helped to see some thing clearlier. SO WHO DOESNT MAKE SENSE NOW xd

 

[Mejkl3]

No dude, at the start of the series everyone was 12 years old... Further evidence states as when the 3rd Hokage was narrating the attack of Kurama -________________________-;; He stated TWELVE YEARS...
They were 13 by the middle of the series, and in the 2 year time skip they were 15 and now they're 16. You quit trying to turn the timeline into your favor and start with facts.

As it's stated in the Databook as well it'll state both their ages in part I
and their ages in part II.

Take Kakashi for example.. At the beginning of Naruto he was 26 years old and the series ended with him at 27.

In the time skip, he was 29-30.



You're fxcking up the entire plot of things.

Edit: And let's not forget the ROOKIE 9 all graduated the academy at the age of yes, you got that right TWELVE YEARS OLD. Now go look at their graduation ages to being promoted to Genin and come back to me.

Edit of the editing: Here's Naruto's personal stats.


Personal
Birthdate October 10
Gender Male
Age:
Part I: 12-13
Part II: 15-16
Height:
Part I: 145.3 cm-147.5 cm
Part II: 166 cm
Weight:
Part I: 40.1 kg-40.6 kg
Part II: 50.9 kg
Blood type: B
Tailed Beast: Kurama (Forms)
Classification:
Jinchūriki
Sage
Affiliation:
Konohagakure
Mount Myōboku
Team:
Team Kakashi
Sasuke Retrieval Team
Konoha 11 (Anime only)
Eight Man Squad
Team One (Anime only)
Clan: Uzumaki clan
Rank:
Ninja Rank Genin
Ninja Registration 012607
Academy Grad. Age 12

Yea i used the older version cuz would be more confuzing if i keep were talking in year 95-94 and about 12-13 years.

And the times were more different at the time of Kakashi. People with age of 9 (Zabuza) were killing an entire academy and they had real war experinces when they were just kids.

But you got a good point.

 

[Rosco Wellington]

Still inconclusive. Just according to your timeline for the sake of argument it implies that in two years time obito became strong enough to control kurama AND stand toe to toe with minato. With ONE sharingan. The same ninja Who took 5 years just to become a chunnin(average). Out of nowhere he just becomes a powerhouse with talent to match? Na. And also kisame recognizing him without tobi needing to say anything also puts a wrench in your theory. But props to you for your effort

 

[LeEvilTongue]

The whole longhaired/shorthaired Tobi still itches the back of my mind. There are also no definitive on how he knows so much about everything, his strenght and why he changed ideals.

 

[Koha]

Yea i used the older version cuz would be more confuzing if i keep were talking in year 95-94 and about 12-13 years.

And the times were more different at the time of Kakashi. People with age of 9 (Zabuza) were killing an entire academy and they had real war experinces when they were just kids.

But you got a good point.

Yeah, those of their generation showed more potential. But it doesn't excuse the fact there were still failure ninja in their time. Your timeline is still respected though because of the work and effort you put into it.

 

[AnglePrey]

About 90% people on this thread posted that it made sense and helped to see some thing clearlier. SO WHO DOESNT MAKE SENSE NOW xd

so, if it doesn't help me in particular and i express it, im a hater? the sense that's made here, will most likely be altered by what kishi releases. i just save my time by catching on. i did state that your timeline made sense. i'm just not getting lead anywhere by it. am i wrong for differing?

 

[Mejkl3]

Still inconclusive. Just according to your timeline for the sake of argument it implies that in two years time obito became strong enough to control kurama AND stand toe to toe with minato. With ONE sharingan. The same ninja Who took 5 years just to become a chunnin(average). Out of nowhere he just becomes a powerhouse with talent to match? Na. And also kisame recognizing him without tobi needing to say anything also puts a wrench in your theory. But props to you for your effort

Well sasuke could in part 1 just use chidori 2 times a day and with 2.5 years training he could destroy a mountain with his chidori variant "Kirin".

 

[Koha]

Well sasuke could in part 1 just use chidori 2 times a day and with 2.5 years training he could destroy a mountain with his chidori variant "Kirin".

That's two years though, and Sakura did note that Sasuke's body was enhanced with drugs that also made him immune to all poisons. :l There's no explaining how Obito massively gained that much skill and power in a max of 13 months. Even Naruto the MAIN CHARACTER didn't get that OP, it took 3 years collectively, and he's a demon host.

 

[serpiente clan]

the only problem is in madar vs hashirama....

the manga said in the fight of madara vs hashirama madara was the 1 ho get the most damage of the fight, allmost that hashirama think he was dead....ok

how can madara live 40 year more after that fight and the 1 hokage died before madara, i dont belive that and how he get rinnegan and give the eye to i baby that he dint now, and how he see were the baby was,he remove hes on eye, that make no sense......

the manga said nagato was born we rinnegan to bring peace to the world that was the profecy of the sage toad...

i think we need to w8 2 more manga to make thread about this...

 

[grenwood]

i agree with everything except the chuunin exam/ age explanation. you completely disregarded the fact that obito didn't become a genin until 3 years after kakashi became a chunin

 

[sageadvice]

The bloody mist reign started during the second great ninja world war when the Sannin were in their late teens, early 20's.. Which was before Obito was born, it was right after Zabuza was 18 or so.. Was when the reign was nearing end since he tried to assassinate Yagura.

from where do you source that?

 

[Niwdog]

+ Rep. Any of the images could have been in any order in that chapter because there were almost no words in that chapter. That might explain Minato's face on the mountain.

 

[Niwdog]

Still inconclusive. Just according to your timeline for the sake of argument it implies that in two years time obito became strong enough to control kurama AND stand toe to toe with minato. With ONE sharingan. The same ninja Who took 5 years just to become a chunnin(average). Out of nowhere he just becomes a powerhouse with talent to match? Na. And also kisame recognizing him without tobi needing to say anything also puts a wrench in your theory. But props to you for your effort

In the space of even LESS time, Naruto has grown insanely strong and Sasuke has got ridiculous power-ups. You accept that the main character can do this but not the main villain??? From struggling against Haku to defeating a Jinchuuriki like Gaara in a space of a few months is quite wow... From getting owned by Part 2 Sasuke when fighting with Sakura and Yamato to being able to defeat Pain within half a year is quite wow as well...

 

[sageadvice]

Big events and bigger opponents helped to progress them farther, faster. Naruto and Sasuke are now pretty legendary throughout the ninja world. How did Obito keep his progress under the radar? Who did he fight that challenged his limits so? And Sasuke had crazy control over his MS before going EMS. So, it makes sense that he would quickly make use of the EMS very well. Similarly, Naruto had been working Kurama for years, and he finally flipped a switch and said, "Sure, let's be buddies." So, again, it's expected he'd get crazy powerful pretty immediately. Obito was crushed, minus one eye, and just released his two-tomoe sharingan, and, then, a year later, he is a super kage level MS (if not EMS) master. Yes, I'd like to know how that's possible.

 

[Koha]

from where do you source that?

I haven't remembered but I did read that Yagura's reign began during the Second Great Ninja World War. I'll look for a true source and get back to you when I'm back online.

 

[Rosco Wellington]

Well sasuke could in part 1 just use chidori 2 times a day and with 2.5 years training he could destroy a mountain with his chidori variant "Kirin".

Sasuke had two sharingans and help from oro via curse mark and teaching in general. But that's besides the fact that sasuke has always been a different class of ninja then obito was shown to be.

 

[Rosco Wellington]

In the space of even LESS time, Naruto has grown insanely strong and Sasuke has got ridiculous power-ups. You accept that the main character can do this but not the main villain??? From struggling against Haku to defeating a Jinchuuriki like Gaara in a space of a few months is quite wow... From getting owned by Part 2 Sasuke when fighting with Sakura and Yamato to being able to defeat Pain within half a year is quite wow as well...

I can accept it just off the basis that its plausible. What motive does obito even have to try something like attack konoha and the 4th? You can't give me one cuz the last thing we saw from this guy was dying for his country. I repeat I'm going by THE OP'S timeline for the sake of argument. According to his timeline obito only has 1 sharingan taking on a whole village. That makes sense to you? The whole reason minato thought Tobi was madara was cuz his s/t jutsu was on par if not greater with his own AND the 2nd hokage. You mean to tell me obito can get that nice with 1 eye and no help? The same guy who spent 5 years just to become a chunnin? That doesn't make sense. Naruto develops and we see how he develops. Same with sasuke. They have motive for everything they do. Obito has nothing. No motive, no outragous talent, nothing. According to the manga. Then he just pops and hes tobi??? Let me make it clear. I DON'T CARE THAT TOBI IS OBITO. MY PROBLEM IS THAT IT ISN'T COHESIVE TO THE STORY AT ALL. I watched anime since I was a kid and I can honestly say that this is THE MOST contradicting thing I've ever seen get introduced to a shows storyline ever. Watching the matrix triology on the first try makes more sense then what happened last chapter

 

[supino]

actually, it makes a lot of sense +rep.

for the time being though i hope you won't mind if some of us remain a tad sceptical... first of all i am a little 'worried' with the convenient explanation 'he lied'. ok, he did but they were all too stupid to second-guess or sth. ALL of them? even in the naruto fanbase there were plenty of opinions about his identity xd and, ok, i get Tsunade's explanation regarding the reasons behind choosing to carry this particular name, but in actuality there was no real reason. Pain made a name of himself using an alias but without linking himself, his identity or powers to anyone; he could have said: the new sage (just a wild idea). Hanzo the same, Orochimaru the same. for those reasons and plenty more it's only natural to say that Madara had a doing in all of that, how much and from when till when remains to be seen imho. and then there is the issue of who found and trained Obito, because no matter how talented he turned out to be nobody makes progress without some help. there is the Zetsu option, but again i am a little sceptical of Zetsu as sth more as an aid.