TIME TO ADMIT ITACHI IS A PLOT DEVICE and his Weapons are ASSPULLS

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Obito, Kakashi and Sasuke also get similar "fanboy" threads but they don't get the hate threads of that magnitude. There's also rarely people who actually elaborate their opinion, even if the fantasy battle is formed. "Obito>Itachi" or "Itaci>Obito" is just too painful to read.

no its painful to read because you have no facts to prove that itachi is stronger than ms obito. everyone but the itachibase knows that ms obito>itachi any itachi. sound arguments are given by obito fans but itachi fappers say "ohhh hee wus scurd uf hem." obito insulted madara uchiha right into his face and told him he wasn't on his side THE madara uchiha and said it with no fcks given. why would he be scared of a sickly little uchiha boy that cant even hurt him? incoming batman style argument "he'll figure out a way hes smart."

 

[Romy9]

no its painful to read because you have no facts to prove that itachi is stronger than ms obito. everyone but the itachibase knows that ms obito>itachi any itachi. sound arguments are given by obito fans but itachi fappers say "ohhh hee wus scurd uf hem." obito insulted madara uchiha right into his face and told him he wasn't on his side THE madara uchiha and said it with no fcks given. why would he be scared of a sickly little uchiha boy that cant even hurt him? incoming batman style argument "he'll figure out a way hes smart."

Neither do you. I, at least, have Kishimoto's non-canon opinion on how it would go down if a fantasy battle is formed. That's enough for me to believe it. You write too much, but have too little argument.

 

[Oblivionx]

No. There's always that invincible character in a story that has to die by a sickness or cannot be physically killed.

Itachi was invincible so the only to kill him was to give him a sickness.

That shows how OP Itachi was.

your sig is truly amazing....

 

[Itachi Solos]

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Itachi > Plot

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Obito, Kakashi and Sasuke also get similar "fanboy" threads but they don't get the hate threads of that magnitude. There's also rarely people who actually elaborate their opinion, even if the fantasy battle is formed. "Obito>Itachi" or "Itaci>Obito" is just too painful to read.

Because they're still relevant to the plot, Itachi hasn't made an appearance in 2 years, that's why it's annoying.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Neither do you. I, at least, have Kishimoto's non-canon opinion on how it would go down if a fantasy battle is formed. That's enough for me to believe it. You write too much, but have too little argument.

non canon is not an argument at ALL. "fantasy battles" as you call them only use facts and logic from CANON material if it didn't happen in the manga it didn't happen at all unless kishi says its canon.

 

[Romy9]

Because they're still relevant to the plot, Itachi hasn't made an appearance in 2 years, that's why it's annoying.

In that sense, I agree.

non canon is not an argument at ALL. "fantasy battles" as you call them only use facts and logic from CANON material if it didn't happen in the manga it didn't happen at all unless kishi says its canon.

Your Obito who can supposedly win is non-canon, too. Try to think logically before you type up the sentence. The problem with that is that "facts" and "logic" are two relative terms here. My logic says that if an author thinks Itachi can deal with Obito, EVERYONE should believe it because well, the author of the manga thinks so. You probably don't agree with it but still talk about facts and logic. Which is of course hilarious.

 

[Legacy69]

Isn't every character a device to further the plot? Otherwise there would be none right? And no his weapons are not asspulls.

This pretty much summed the entire argument needed to counter this thread.

But atleast Their is a reason and an explanation but with Itachi and those Weapons their has never been anything to explain it...

 

[Legacy69]

It's as truth said, and also this means you dislike itachi?

Nah I like Itachi Hes my top 5 NV chars

 

[Legacy69]

Im not an Itachi Hater im more of a stickler for truth. Would you guys really be happy if the manga ended without any explanations to those invincible objects? like who made them.,...

 

[CookieMan9000]

Your point is invalid.

You could just say every strong character is a plot device, because they're only as strong as plot makes them. That's the whole thing, fictional characters are restricted or get powered up just by plot.

 

[Gintõki1]

And you're the asspull of ym.

 

[EternalFlame]

Every new technique is an asspull!

 

[BlazeRelease]

Itachi can't beat Obito, Itachi can't beat Obito, Itachi can't be Obito!

Uh oh!!! Lol

 

[YellowFang]

I can agree on the ethereal weapons,
And that super hyped Yata Mirror, what exactly are it's feats... Defending against some explosive tags... *face palm*

If these tools were anything worthwhile for the manga, the best fight Itachi needed both of'em was against Kabuto and he didn't use it...
Itachi should've Finger Genjutsu'ed Kabuto, should've blocked those sound waves with Yata and cancelled ET...

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Isn't every character a device to further the plot? Otherwise there would be none right? And no his weapons are not asspulls.

I understand your point. However, that being said, Itachi's new jutsus are always exactly what's needed to overcome the specific situation.

Totsuka = harmlessly remove an immortal from Sasuke.
Koto Amatsukami = release Itachi from Kabuto's control.
Izanami = specifically targeting Kabuto's one weakness.

These were integral to success, and typically abilities like that have foreshadowing.

Yata doesn't seem to be an asspull because it wasn't pivotal to anything, it didn't even stop Sasuke's ultimate attack Kirin (which was foreshadowed).

 

[Conspirator.]

First Off Im not Going against ItachiBase the way Itachi is written He does Solo... my Problem is the way Kishi wrote Him! His character is a huge plot device. I waited to write this seeing the Manga is ending (hopefully) yet we still don't have an explanation on Totsuka Blade or Yata Mirror :devil: ... My reasons for making these claims are

1. Plot Device : Anything that moves the plot forward or maintains it : ( i Know their are others but Itachi is....)
A. Kishi was like Oh man how can i ever seperate The curse Mark Orochimaru gave Sasuke from Itachi oh i know lets give him Ethereal weapons
B. Oh Man how will they beat Edo Tensei Pain that i made OP ,,,, I know!!!!
C. Oh Man I made Kabuto Too God Like and The Edo Tensei is still active how on Ear.... I KNOW! Etc...

2. Kish prob knows he cant explain these Weapons or is too Lazy to Do Sooo...
-A. If he explains the Origin of these weapons and who made them A new fanbase will mount spamming Totsuka blade blitz.
-B. He cant explain the creation of these weapons without giving out weaknesses. If these Weapons were creating by SO6P why din't he used it to seal Kaguya, does it mean it cant Seal EVerything ; flaw flaw flaw
- C. If it was created by someone else why dint he rule the world with Totsuka Blitz - this Person would have a fanbase like Prime Hiruzen

-D. The sudden explanation of Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade can block/seal anything is lazy. The first time Susanoo was created it was said to have perfect defense.. If they ended manga there we would believe it, Now it seems Susanoo is fodder Defense. Or let's say He ended the Manga with Juubito Black balls absorbing everything We would never know Sage Chakra is the Weakness.

3. Even Kishi's other Asspulls have explanations!!!!.
-A. Great Snake escape was explained :devil:
-B. Gold and Silver Brothers even explained that you can eat the Jinchuuriki insides and live inside of them for two weeks. Then Gain their power for the rest of your life.
-C. EVEN DOUBLE MS KAKASHI WITH PS WAS EXPLAINED h:
D. Kishi can explain those but not how Itachi got weapons that were made in a diff realm Zzz ?

4. Why dint Itachi Use these weapons to seal a Jincuuriki or multiple to foil AKatsuki's plots, Isn't He a Genius? Or can
it not seal Jinchuuriki :Omg: Does that mean it can't seal everything (flaw flaw flaw)
I want to say more but I cant go on ranting... Its come to my conclusion that Kishi is an Itachi Fan Boy and wants to keep his perfect Persona intact.
I also waited for an explanation because many people said the SO6P created these weapons and they would be explained but the mangas close to ending and not a word.

Disclaimer: Itachi is one of my Fave chars especially when he was supposed to be evil...:heh:

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The reason Itachi didn't do it is not because he couldn't do it, but because he was a lazy ass fool who sat on his ass for 10 years and did nothing to stop the Akatsuki. He isn't a genius, but a brain dead fool who probably suffered from Schizophrenia given his stupid decisions over the years like letting Orochimaru go,letting Danzo live and he was also a serial mind rapist given he tortured Sasuke and Kakashi for no reason. Good thread. Lol

 

[Aikor]

How in the world is this thread alive stil?

 

[residentevil]

time to admit itachi is the best