Time Isnt Actually Real :/

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A lot of folks seem to agree with me.

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"The past only exists as a memory: a mental state that we can only experience in the present moment. We cannot visit what happened 30 seconds ago any more than we can visit what happened 1000 years ago. All we can do is hold those things in mind in the present.

The future only exists as an expectation: a mental state that we can only experience in the present moment. When we fire an arrow, we can anticipate that the arrow will strike the target, but at the moment we fire it we cannot visit the moment when the arrow strikes the target, any more than we can visit the moment we picked up the bow.

The present moment has a sense of motion, but that doesn't necessarily translate to a sense of the passage of time; All of us, I think, have had pleasant or painful hours where we simply lose track of time completely. Our sense of time is - again - a mental state that we can only experience in the present moment. We mentally impose a trajectory on the motion we experience by bringing a memory into mind and using it to construct an expectation, but we don't really experience that trajectory except as a matter of memory and anticipation.

We naturally assume that our mental construct of time reflects some actual, material, real-world property, and while that's a perfectly reasonable and pragmatic assumption, it is not by any means an established fact. All we really know for certain is that at we have memories and anticipations that seem to shift and change in an orderly, systematic way, with our awareness sitting motionlessly between them."

"Time is JUST a measuring tool. Just like you measure the distance of a mile, people decided to measure whatever was happening when you do something. The sun comes up, the sun goes down, all that's haopening is earth is rotating. Earth is not following a clock, it's simpy performing it's actions. From starting to finishing the action is where time comes in.

And it's also dependent on light.
For example, think of this.

Aliens that are a trillion light years away from us who turn their gaze to earth, might be witnessing dinosaurs roaming around, long before their extinction. It's because of this:
Light reflects off of an object then TRAVELS in all directions, eventually meeting an observer. Light that reflected off of dinosaurs is older than us and has traveled further from the earth before the light reflected off of humans. Matter can neither be created nor destroyed, so is the light reflected off of the dinosaurs any less real than when physically they were here? Their actions are observed by a foreign entity, and it's light that is keeping them alive.
We know there are no dinosaurs here, but aliens don't. They're watching them roam around and live their life cycles. Does that mean they're living in the past for being able to see dinosaurs? No it's just that the RELATIVE light (newer light, our light) hasn't reached them yet so we simply aren't there.

"Time doesn't exist because time and light and everything else are all relevant to the observer. There is no overarching rule that commands everything. It's all relative to YOU."
Most everyone knows that Einstein proved that time is relative, not absolute as Newton claimed. With the proper technology, such as a very fast spaceship, one person is able to experience several days while another person simultaneously experiences only a few hours or minutes. The same two people can meet up again, one having experienced days or even years while the other has only experienced minutes. The person in the spaceship only needs to travel near to the speed of light. The faster they travel, the slower their time will pass relative to someone planted firmly on the Earth. If they were able to travel at the speed of light, their time would cease completely and they would only exist trapped in timelessness. Einstein could hardly believe there were physicists who didn’t believe in timelessness, and yet the wisdom of Einstein's convictions had very little impact on cosmology or science in general. The majority of physicists have been slow to give up the ordinary assumptions we make about time."


It make's sense though. all the earth is doing is rotating around the sun. So technically the birth of earth and it's death exist within the same frame. Time didnt actually past, a new event just happens to happen within the now.

If time existed it would be concrete and wouldnt vary from area to area within space.

Mass and light determines how you perceive time

It's more of a human measurement to keep up with things.

What's a year? Earth's cycle around the sun right?

Whats a day? Earths cycle off it's on rotation right?

Let's say the earth stopped moving.

One side would forever be day and the other forever night.

There wouldnt be a tuesday or may 18th or etc.

reality is just one big day with various interactions.
 

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Mate time is real just in different forms why else do you think mayans had different years. So calm down and stop smoking hasj for today
 

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What makes 2+2=4? What's life what's justice whats real, whats god who cares anymore?
 

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Are you questioning the existence of the 4th dimension? :lol. Sounds like you are desperate.

But....yes every time measurement is based on light itself. But Photons are unfortunately too slow and thus making the astronomical observations difficult. And also restricting our field of sight to a "small distance". That distance is in general called as the observable universe.

Either ways you can deny it's existence as much you desire, but as yourself is "of speed" then it makes every single contradiction futile and irrelevant. And The subject physics exists here to completely unreveal the secret of time, the only way to describe the nature of time is through pure matematical evidence. I know it's intresting to debate and all but sorry, it's not that easy.
 
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So basically you just defined what the present is with a discount quote about relativity ..lol
 

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Time is real; perception of time is variable.
 

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Mate time is real just in different forms why else do you think mayans had different years. So calm down and stop smoking hasj for today

No lol if time existed than counter this.

lets say a being a million light years away looked at earth.

what you think they would see? They would see a prehistoric earth probably around the dinosaurs time.

Why?
the light that bounced off of earth at that time took THAT long to come back to the viewer on the far way planet.

does that mean that dinosaurs are still around? no we're here now. yet humans and dinosaurs are millions of years apart in this so called "time"

you see what im saying?
 

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listen if we didnt exist would time exist? if a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to witness it, did it really fall? i could go deeper, but na. our conscious energy is the only thing that exist and everything is just a product of our subconscious will, including time. Time is a word we created to explain the changes between things. thats it.
 

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dude time is meaningless without motion :| even if the earth doesn't rotate/revolve we can still count a certain no. of atomic vibrations as a unit of time. Just because it's relative doesn't mean it's not real. If it isn't then nothing would actually happen.
 

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What I've been wondering is why do people always say that dinosaurs got extinct millions of years ago, even though the earth exists for 2016 years now?
 

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What I've been wondering is why do people always say that dinosaurs got extinct millions of years ago, even though the earth exists for 2016 years now?

i hope you joking lmao. 2016 means 2016 years after christ. lmao bruhhh im dying
 

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What I've been wondering is why do people always say that dinosaurs got extinct millions of years ago, even though the earth exists for 2016 years now?

The planet itself didnt vanish, but there must be more to your point.
 

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Time is real for us bro. There are other dimension/realms where time is irrelevant. Like the spiritual realm for example.
 

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Time is a relative measure in Science. It can be affected by things like gravity, and acceleration, I think.

If your post said there can be timelessness if you reach the speed of light, then that means time exists because you could lose it.
 
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A lot of folks seem to agree with me.

I quote

"The past only exists as a memory: a mental state that we can only experience in the present moment. We cannot visit what happened 30 seconds ago any more than we can visit what happened 1000 years ago. All we can do is hold those things in mind in the present.

The future only exists as an expectation: a mental state that we can only experience in the present moment. When we fire an arrow, we can anticipate that the arrow will strike the target, but at the moment we fire it we cannot visit the moment when the arrow strikes the target, any more than we can visit the moment we picked up the bow.

The present moment has a sense of motion, but that doesn't necessarily translate to a sense of the passage of time; All of us, I think, have had pleasant or painful hours where we simply lose track of time completely. Our sense of time is - again - a mental state that we can only experience in the present moment. We mentally impose a trajectory on the motion we experience by bringing a memory into mind and using it to construct an expectation, but we don't really experience that trajectory except as a matter of memory and anticipation.

We naturally assume that our mental construct of time reflects some actual, material, real-world property, and while that's a perfectly reasonable and pragmatic assumption, it is not by any means an established fact. All we really know for certain is that at we have memories and anticipations that seem to shift and change in an orderly, systematic way, with our awareness sitting motionlessly between them."

"Time is JUST a measuring tool. Just like you measure the distance of a mile, people decided to measure whatever was happening when you do something. The sun comes up, the sun goes down, all that's haopening is earth is rotating. Earth is not following a clock, it's simpy performing it's actions. From starting to finishing the action is where time comes in.

And it's also dependent on light.
For example, think of this.

Aliens that are a trillion light years away from us who turn their gaze to earth, might be witnessing dinosaurs roaming around, long before their extinction. It's because of this:
Light reflects off of an object then TRAVELS in all directions, eventually meeting an observer. Light that reflected off of dinosaurs is older than us and has traveled further from the earth before the light reflected off of humans. Matter can neither be created nor destroyed, so is the light reflected off of the dinosaurs any less real than when physically they were here? Their actions are observed by a foreign entity, and it's light that is keeping them alive.
We know there are no dinosaurs here, but aliens don't. They're watching them roam around and live their life cycles. Does that mean they're living in the past for being able to see dinosaurs? No it's just that the RELATIVE light (newer light, our light) hasn't reached them yet so we simply aren't there.

"Time doesn't exist because time and light and everything else are all relevant to the observer. There is no overarching rule that commands everything. It's all relative to YOU."
Most everyone knows that Einstein proved that time is relative, not absolute as Newton claimed. With the proper technology, such as a very fast spaceship, one person is able to experience several days while another person simultaneously experiences only a few hours or minutes. The same two people can meet up again, one having experienced days or even years while the other has only experienced minutes. The person in the spaceship only needs to travel near to the speed of light. The faster they travel, the slower their time will pass relative to someone planted firmly on the Earth. If they were able to travel at the speed of light, their time would cease completely and they would only exist trapped in timelessness. Einstein could hardly believe there were physicists who didn’t believe in timelessness, and yet the wisdom of Einstein's convictions had very little impact on cosmology or science in general. The majority of physicists have been slow to give up the ordinary assumptions we make about time."


It make's sense though. all the earth is doing is rotating around the sun. So technically the birth of earth and it's death exist within the same frame. Time didnt actually past, a new event just happens to happen within the now.

If time existed it would be concrete and wouldnt vary from area to area within space.

Mass and light determines how you perceive time

It's more of a human measurement to keep up with things.

What's a year? Earth's cycle around the sun right?

Whats a day? Earths cycle off it's on rotation right?

Let's say the earth stopped moving.

One side would forever be day and the other forever night.

There wouldnt be a tuesday or may 18th or etc.

reality is just one big day with various interactions.

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Time is what humans made with our conscience.
Take away all the clocks and stuff and there is no time.
We made it.
 
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