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This discussion goes along the lines of my discussion from last chapter where I made some bold prediction on the outcome of the Hokage Conversation.
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For those who don’t like to read, this is the answer to this discussion, Oro went rouge out of pain/anger regarding his parent’s death when he was young. And my belief is that Toribama is to blame for Oro’s parents.
The Set-up from Chapter 619
In this chapter, Oro has some choice words with Toribama. Toribama is surprised, maybe even a little angry that Oro can easily use his Edo Tensei jutsu. Oro replies, “It’s not that complicated after all”. These words may mean nothing, but to me it almost like Oro is putting Tobirama down. It’s not just Oro being arrogant here, he is almost telling him: I’m better than you with an undertone of disdain. So why does Oro put Tobirama down?
In Oro’s next words, we see what Oro thought/thinks of the Tobirama. He tells Tobirama that the Jutsu should not have been created. Which is kind of ironic, considering Oro uses it. Oro has used with far worst Justus. Why shouldn’t Tobirama have created this one? The reason is interesting.
Oro blames Tobirama for some of Leaf’s past problems. Oro to Tobirama: “Your politics and Jutsu created a lot of trouble afterward”. As far as politics, Oro was referring to the Tobirama’s views and how it affected the Uchiha and brought about the Coup in Konoha.
Now what does Oro mean that the Jutsu caused problems? Some may argue that we will discover that the Uchiha were after Edo Tensei to revive Madara (everyone thought him dead), and that was the plan of the coup. While possible, I don’t think Oro was alluding to this. Oro’s previous words to Tobirama showed he thought less of 2nd for something else.
This conversation is intriguing, considering Oro who has attacked the village, wanted revenge on it, but says Tobirama is to blame for many of the problems it has had, and Edo Tensei is at the root of some of it.
So the question now is what about the Edo Tensei jutsu caused problems for the leaf in the past? And how does this relate to Oro being angry with the Tobirama. The answer lies is Oro’s past.
The explanation
The Thoery: Oro's Parents died because of Tobirama
Oro's parents had graves in Konoha, so they were part of the village.
It has been mentioned that Leaf has always been attacked by other villages for its forbidden Jutsu’s. Think back to Part 1, how Naruto was used to steal a forbidden scroll (the one with Shadow clone). Maybe Oro’s words in chapter 619 allude to the Leaf being attacked because of another village’s desire to obtain the Edo tensei Jutsu.
Based on the few words said in Chapter 619, Tobirama seems to have the same mentality as Danzo: Do what is necessary to protect the village. Except, Tobirama wanted what was best for the Senju. Perhaps in trying to protect Konoha/Senju interests, during an attack or perhaps in retaliation to an attack, Toribama’s actions and decisions lead to Oro’s parents being killed. Oro holds resentment that the 2nd’s Jutsu/choices were the cause of his parents deaths.
On the anniversary of his parent’s death, Oro visits their grave, Hirozen (now the 3rd Hokage for a few years) sees him, gives him some caring words, and continues to work with Oro through his pain. We all know how well things worked out after that.
I think we are about to get some interesting information. We are going to discover about Oro's past and we are going to learn Tobirama may not have been the good Hokage we all thought he was. He's very different from his brother in personality. I think he’s done some bad things in order to protect the Senju clan. Perhaps he created root before his brothers death. It is said root existed since the time Konoha was created. So Hashi was the first Hokage, and Tobirama created root to protect the village from the shadows.
If you want to read here is the link:
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For those who don’t like to read, this is the answer to this discussion, Oro went rouge out of pain/anger regarding his parent’s death when he was young. And my belief is that Toribama is to blame for Oro’s parents.
The Set-up from Chapter 619
In this chapter, Oro has some choice words with Toribama. Toribama is surprised, maybe even a little angry that Oro can easily use his Edo Tensei jutsu. Oro replies, “It’s not that complicated after all”. These words may mean nothing, but to me it almost like Oro is putting Tobirama down. It’s not just Oro being arrogant here, he is almost telling him: I’m better than you with an undertone of disdain. So why does Oro put Tobirama down?
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In Oro’s next words, we see what Oro thought/thinks of the Tobirama. He tells Tobirama that the Jutsu should not have been created. Which is kind of ironic, considering Oro uses it. Oro has used with far worst Justus. Why shouldn’t Tobirama have created this one? The reason is interesting.
You must be registered for see links
Oro blames Tobirama for some of Leaf’s past problems. Oro to Tobirama: “Your politics and Jutsu created a lot of trouble afterward”. As far as politics, Oro was referring to the Tobirama’s views and how it affected the Uchiha and brought about the Coup in Konoha.
Now what does Oro mean that the Jutsu caused problems? Some may argue that we will discover that the Uchiha were after Edo Tensei to revive Madara (everyone thought him dead), and that was the plan of the coup. While possible, I don’t think Oro was alluding to this. Oro’s previous words to Tobirama showed he thought less of 2nd for something else.
This conversation is intriguing, considering Oro who has attacked the village, wanted revenge on it, but says Tobirama is to blame for many of the problems it has had, and Edo Tensei is at the root of some of it.
So the question now is what about the Edo Tensei jutsu caused problems for the leaf in the past? And how does this relate to Oro being angry with the Tobirama. The answer lies is Oro’s past.
The explanation
The Thoery: Oro's Parents died because of Tobirama
You must be registered for see links
Oro's parents had graves in Konoha, so they were part of the village.
It has been mentioned that Leaf has always been attacked by other villages for its forbidden Jutsu’s. Think back to Part 1, how Naruto was used to steal a forbidden scroll (the one with Shadow clone). Maybe Oro’s words in chapter 619 allude to the Leaf being attacked because of another village’s desire to obtain the Edo tensei Jutsu.
Based on the few words said in Chapter 619, Tobirama seems to have the same mentality as Danzo: Do what is necessary to protect the village. Except, Tobirama wanted what was best for the Senju. Perhaps in trying to protect Konoha/Senju interests, during an attack or perhaps in retaliation to an attack, Toribama’s actions and decisions lead to Oro’s parents being killed. Oro holds resentment that the 2nd’s Jutsu/choices were the cause of his parents deaths.
On the anniversary of his parent’s death, Oro visits their grave, Hirozen (now the 3rd Hokage for a few years) sees him, gives him some caring words, and continues to work with Oro through his pain. We all know how well things worked out after that.
I think we are about to get some interesting information. We are going to discover about Oro's past and we are going to learn Tobirama may not have been the good Hokage we all thought he was. He's very different from his brother in personality. I think he’s done some bad things in order to protect the Senju clan. Perhaps he created root before his brothers death. It is said root existed since the time Konoha was created. So Hashi was the first Hokage, and Tobirama created root to protect the village from the shadows.
