This whole "Prime Kabuto = the strongest".

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Ok man, this is BS.

People insulting Kabuto like hes trash without Edo Tensei.. lmao. "Prime Kabuto" = Edo Tensei army Kabuto.. lmaoo. okkkk.

This is my point, Kabuto trying to claim he can now touch a segment of that God's power (SO6P).. But Madara saying "He didn't create this power". If you say the Edo army Kabuto is his prime.. then Madara is also included.. but he says he didn't create that power.. aka its not his.


See people seem to think Edo tensei is just like every other summoning. Well no its not.. In other summons you are actually using your chakra with the one you summon.. In Edo tensei.. hohoho your not.. Your using the infinite chakra of the shinobi you summoned to do attacks for you. But again that is HIS POWER. And even Kabuto himself said to Madara, "With your power".

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Edo tensei is used out of desperation.. like Orochimaru couldn't take on Sarutobi without so he thought he should get 2 other Kages.. But that failed cause they didn't want to fight him.. So yea.

Prime Kabuto is not Edo Tensei Kabuto..

Prime is when you yourself are at the peak of your power.. not when your using other's powers..

Cause if you wanna count the Edo army and etc.. then Edo army + Kabuto > SO6P.
 

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Saying Kabuto prime means nothing in a 1v1 how will he find the time to make all these edo. And make them become alive he was prepared. Well with this madness i can say Obito prime equal him with Juubi Right?
 

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It's his summonings ,therefore his powers, he's the one controlling them and erasing their consciousness if he wants to.
Deal with it.
 

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Saying Kabuto prime means nothing in a 1v1 how will he find the time to make all these edo. And make them become alive he was prepared. Well with this madness i can say Obito prime equal him with Juubi Right?

Your name should be "ImNotIntelligent"
 

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It's his summonings ,therefore his powers, he's the one controlling them and erasing their consciousness if he wants to.
Deal with it.
And since when do summonings become the user's power??? O-o your power = your own chakra.. your power doesn't = someone else's power.


LORD KABUTO is the best
sorry ;l ALL HAIL the TRUE LORD .. Lord Orochimaru.


Your name should be "ImNotIntelligent"

Yet hes more intelligent some of the people on the base for seeing the truth.
 

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Agree. Who prepares Edo's during a battle?

So every time he goes into a one vs one.. he needs 6 months of prep time? lmao. And doesn't have the balls to fight himself ;d. Oh my. Kabuto haters have arrived.
 

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And since when do summonings become the user's power??? O-o your power = your own chakra.. your power doesn't = someone else's power.



sorry ;l ALL HAIL the TRUE LORD .. Lord Orochimaru.




Yet hes more intelligent some of the people on the base for seeing the truth.


Because he summoned them with his own chakra, therefore his own power.
The summoning belong to his user, it has always been this way, do you want to start contradicting Kishi himself?
 

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You know I could go into a debate as to state my opinion but I will keep it plain and simple.

Kabuto at his peak uses edo tensei > kills whoever he is going against > Kabuto will be still alive

this in itself make's Kabuto the victor.
 

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And since when do summonings become the user's power??? O-o your power = your own chakra.. your power doesn't = someone else's power.


Summonings are part of the caster's power... naruto summoning gamabunta vs someone, or sasuke summoning his hawk is all part of their arsenal..

This thread is stupid
 

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Because he summoned them with his own chakra, therefore his own power.
The summoning belong to his user, it has always been this way, do you want to start contradicting Kishi himself?

The summoning belongs to the user.. of course.. but when is it his own power?.. explain..

Summoning are for assistance.. and this was already cleared when the first summoning in the series was used by Kakashi. And again another shinobi's powers do not = your power.. My power is not yours..



You know I could go into a debate as to state my opinion but I will keep it plain and simple.

Kabuto at his peak uses edo tensei > kills whoever he is going against > Kabuto will be still alive

this in itself make's Kabuto the victor.

Well if your using the Edo Tensei for Kabuto then.. Everytime he faces of as a one vs one his opponent has all the shinobis of his time along with him also. o_O. And also, your telling me Edo Madara is Kabuto's power.. even though he stated to Madara that its Madara's own power?.. ;]

Your making him look weak.... and a lil sissy... just like Oro was when he faced Sarutobi.. Another shinobi's power is not your own power..
Summonings are part of the caster's power... naruto summoning gamabunta vs someone, or sasuke summoning his hawk is all part of their arsenal..

This thread is stupid[/COLOR]
Too bad they ain't animals? lmao. Saying Hashirama's or Madara's current power is Kabuto's.. is pure BS.
 

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So every time he goes into a one vs one.. he needs 6 months of prep time? lmao. And doesn't have the balls to fight himself ;d. Oh my. Kabuto haters have arrived.

I can't even tell what side of the argument you're on. Sentences, use them.
 

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Good thread... If we go with this idea of prime, after So6P there's only Hashi the strongest with his prime, not even Madara coz definitely he had Rinnegan when he was alive but that doesn't count because he couldn't use it then and now Madara is an Edo means dead... He's solely a different thing...

Kabuto's prime is now when he is standing in a cave exploring the horrific fact of being always right when one is not...
 

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I can't even tell what side of the argument you're on. Sentences, use them.
~sigh~.. I do not like people who claim Kabuto's prime is when hes using other people's powers... you people make him into a sissy like Oro was when he went against Hiruzen.

Good thread... If we go with this idea of prime, after So6P there's only Hashi the strongest with his prime, not even Madara coz definitely he had Rinnegan when he was alive but that doesn't count because he couldn't use it then and now Madara is an Edo means dead... He's solely a different thing...

Kabuto's prime is now when he is standing in a cave exploring the horrific fact of being always right when one is not...
Amen. First person to get the concept of a edo.
And know of Kabuto's true prime is his DSM.
 

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idc what people say, currently Kabuto stands top 3/4
 

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@KingHashirama

edo tensei is a summoning, your over-complicating a simple thing

its not making Kabuto sound weak at all, he is a cleaver man who does not go into battle unprepared so to say he would not have his strongest jutsu ready encase he where to get into battle against a strong opponent is just silly.

Also if its peak Kabuto he does not need to re-do the ritual because it only needs to be done once not for ever battle,
If that's how it was then Jiraiya would have to re-do his contract with toads for every battle?
get what I am saying I am trying to say this as simple as I can.
 

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pretty much, except I think there are still a few above killer b like onoki

Nah bro, The thing is even if Killer B doesn't = to Naruto's BM in power.. he equals to Naruto in Experience and duration. Onoki has nowhere the power of Killer B.

@KingHashirama

edo tensei is a summoning, your over-complicating a simple thing

its not making Kabuto sound weak at all, he is a cleaver man who does not go into battle unprepared so to say he would not have his strongest jutsu ready encase he where to get into battle against a strong opponent is just silly.

Also if its peak Kabuto he does not need to re-do the ritual because it only needs to be done once not for ever battle,
If that's how it was then Jiraiya would have to re-do his contract with toads for every battle?
get what I am saying I am trying to say this as simple as I can.

You know there are different kinds of summoning.. Edo tensei is a forbidden jutsu that brings the dead back to life aka OTHER PEOPLE.
There then are assistance summonings like Gamabunta, Manda and etc
And there are summonings like Ma's ( one of the Sages of the Toad sage mountain , whose name i forgot) who reverse summoned Naruto and many others along with him. That doesn't make Naruto and other's her power.. nope.

Actually that is making Kabuto sound hella weak.... Sure if it was something like Gamabunta i would understand.. But using other shinobis to fight your own battle is dumb.. I mean hey you don't see me complaining about his Snake summonings.

Why are you comparing the Toads (Living people ).. to Edo tensei (Dead people).. one requires permission for summoning.. other is using other shinobis to fight for you.

Your making every summoning into 1 kind.
 
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