"This was our country first"

[Sakura Michiko]

Have you ever encountered anyone who said that who was not native american? I was in walmart the other day looking at a Spanish magazine and this lady said" I don't understand why we have those things. This was our country first.They need to get out." I just kind of looked at her with a disgust look on my face. She didn't notice but a family of Mexicans were also looking at her be racist. I think that it is stupid that some people actually think like that especially when their ancestors don't originally come from america. It's seems a little hypocritical.

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

she speaks the truth tho.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

she speaks the truth tho.

Uh no,the natives were here long before any of us.People like that woman should read up on their history before saying such xenophobic trite.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

she speaks the truth tho.

I hope you are trolling.

 

[itachi uchiha fiance]

Have you ever encountered anyone who said that who was not native american? I was in walmart the other day looking at a Spanish magazine and this lady said" I don't understand why we have those things. This was our country first.They need to get out." I just kind of looked at her with a disgust look on my face. She didn't notice but a family of Mexicans were also looking at her be racist. I think that it is stupid that some people actually think like that especially when their ancestors don't originally come from america. It's seems a little hypocritical.

i agree with u

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

Native Americans never had this much control over this land. They were a scattered group of people that fought each other. Yes they might've been here first but they did not own the land as one cohesive group.

 

[KCN]

Also why those Israeli scumbags need to get out of Palestine.

 

[Chibiusa]

Native Americans never had this much control over this land. They were a scattered group of people that fought each other. Yes they might've been here first but they did not own the land as one cohesive group.

That doesnt even matter if they werent one big group, european immigrants still wiped them all out when they came over to colonize. I dont exactly see mexicans wiping out everyone here now (inb4 "THEY TOOK OUR JOBS")

Apparently, this is where "finders, keepers" come from since Columbus was the first human to "find" America, of course

 

[BlacLord™]

It's like that with the UK.

But it's worse in many, many ways. Like the uneducated louts who are party to an organization called "Britain First" and/or UKIP who go on protests telling foreigners to speak English and then go and make signs like this:

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They come up with numerous racist slurs about British-borns with foreign origins and say immigrants are taking over the country unlearned in the fact that all British people are born from foreigners who inhabited this land at different eras; some by force.

 

[TheGodsNaruSasu]

Natives were here first and if anything Mexicans have just as much of a right to be here to if not more because Mexico and California are technically the same area besides were immigrants to this country anyways if anyone can claim that this is their country and they were here first it should be te Native Americans.

 

[Chibiusa]

It's like that with the UK.

But it's worse in many, many ways. Like the uneducated louts who are party to an organization called "Britain First" and/or UKIP who go on protests telling foreigners to speak English and then go and make signs like this:

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They come up with numerous racist slurs about British-borns with foreign origins and say immigrants are taking over the country unlearned in the fact that all British people are born from foreigners who inhabited this land at different eras; some by force.

Respect are country Lol maybe he should learn his own language first

 

[SSU]

What people tend to forget was that America and Canada were both founded by immigrants. The first were the Aboriginals. This land doesn't really belong to any of us.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

What people tend to forget was that America and Canada were both founded by immigrants. The first were the Aboriginals. This land doesn't really belong to any of us.

Exactly,the xenophobes should be forced to take a history course since they're ignorant about the origin of their homeland.

 

[Prometheus Beta]

1. Native Americans didn't get "wiped out" by "European immigrants", they mostly died of the Old World diseases those Europeans brought with them (that is what happens when you live on a continent isolated from the rest of the world for tens of thousands of years, the same thing happened to the Australian aborigines); Europeans also colonized parts of Africa and Asia, why do you think the natives of those regions weren't "wiped out" (especially Black Africans who were far below Native Americans in any measure of civilizational capacity)?

2. Native Americans are native to the dirt of the continent, they are not native to the state you call America, which is a part of western civilization and mostly the creation of European peoples.

 

[chopstickchakra]

1. Native Americans didn't get "wiped out" by "European immigrants", they mostly died of the Old World diseases those Europeans brought with them (that is what happens when you live on a continent isolated from the rest of the world for tens of thousands of years, the same thing happened to the Australian aborigines); Europeans also colonized parts of Africa and Asia, why do you think the natives of those regions weren't "wiped out" (especially Black Africans who were far below Native Americans in any measure of civilizational capacity)?

2. Native Americans are native to the dirt of the continent, they are not native to the state you call America, which is a part of western civilization and mostly the creation of European peoples.

Wiped out by old world diseases that after learning this the European settlers started purposefully giving to the locals under the guise of friendship. Also wiped out by the war effort to quell and "civilize" the "savages" who were on the land we wanted to use. The Trail of Tears isn't made up or mis-representing, the majority of indigenous people were killed or forced from there homes by European settlers be them French English Spanish or German.

Good to know, so we shouldn't expect to hear you or any of your relatives or any decent human in the future when our homes and country have been taken and renamed, complain right. Who cares what we call the state, they had a name for their territories as well, they're still native to the land regardless of the name.

 

[ColdSummer]

Natives were here first and if anything Mexicans have just as much of a right to be here to if not more because Mexico and California are technically the same area besides were immigrants to this country anyways if anyone can claim that this is their country and they were here first it should be te Native Americans.

That's wrong on so many levels. You assert that because they share similar DNA, that natives and Mexicans have more of a right to be here? What is here? The nation-state that Europeans created? Or the entire continent which you think they have some magical claim to simply because they stepped foot on it earlier? You pretend like Native Americans were some kind of united social group hundreds of years ago when in reality they were heavily divided by tribes who each had their own cultures and territories. Conquest is the way of the world. Every nation has practiced it - even the Native Americans practiced it. Go study up on history instead of trying to reason with your feelings.

 

[Prometheus Beta]

Wiped out by old world diseases that after learning this the European settlers started purposefully giving to the locals under the guise of friendship. Also wiped out by the war effort to quell and "civilize" the "savages" who were on the land we wanted to use. The Trail of Tears isn't made up or mis-representing, the majority of indigenous people were killed or forced from there homes by European settlers be them French English Spanish or German.

Good to know, so we shouldn't expect to hear you or any of your relatives or any decent human in the future when our homes and country have been taken and renamed, complain right. Who cares what we call the state, they had a name for their territories as well, they're still native to the land regardless of the name.

Here is an interesting fact that you might like to keep in mind, the germ-nature of disease was unknown until the late 19th century (courtesy of the Frenchman Louis Pasteur). With that fact in mind, an impartial observer would probably not be surprised to find that in all the historical cases of conflict between the European colonists and Native Americans, there has only ever been one recorded actual instance where biological warfare was contemplated (in the French and Indian war where the Natives were allied with the French) and that too involved the use of smallpox (whose infectious nature was well known). On the other hand, the old world diseases that destroyed entire segments of Native populations numbered at least a dozen or so.

Were the early colonials often openly hostile to the "savages" and commonly engaged in warfare against them? Yes, that is a well documented historical fact I won't deny. Is there any evidence whatsoever of a deliberate attempt at continental genocide against Native Americans on the part of any European colonials? None as far as Im aware, but Id be happy to be educated by anyone who can demonstrate otherwise (caveat: I don't entertain conspiracy theories).

Finally, I never tried to morally defend the colonization nor did I comment on the OP so don't jump the gun. See, Im just sick and tired of these - ironically often highly ethnocentric and ethnically motivated themselves- minorities who subscribe to this ideology where the world consists of evil Europeans, and perpetually/inherently exploited natives and minorities, and that we consequently owe them. I won't deny that Europeans had a significant share of destruction, exploitation and whatever in the past few centuries but I won't deny our rightful achievements and civilization either (I also refuse to give in to the double standard where I reject my own form of collective identity but minorities are allowed to have theirs). So I repeat. America as you and I understand it, is a part of western civilization and is mostly the creation of European peoples.

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

American Goverment uses it's might to take away Texas from Mexico. ( the Mexicans got their first)

Then Americans get mad that Mexicans don't want to
Or
Care to learn The national language of the Country that discriminates and subjugates them
Oh no, the Mexicans are taking all the jobs Americans don't want to do - what shall we do? Considering that it's Americas hiring Mexicans,- I don't see the problem. If someone with problems overcoming the language barrier is chosen over you,- you must not be worth much to begin with.

If Americas truly cared about the "we were here first"
Argument then:
- we should leave Afghanistan
- we should stop taking minerals ( Diamonds from Africa )
- we should release Puerto Rico from American control
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It's disgusting that people are still living solely off the benefits of their forefathersZ

People say "We were here first" as if they were personally part of the mayflower.

the truth is that most of the voting population in the U.S were not part of the original British Colonies.
Most people immigrated at some point in time, within their ancestry.

Only a very small population can claim to truly claim to be part of the U.S founding lineage.

English isnot even a language that America can truly claim as it's own. it's a borrowed and plagiarized
British. Americans didnot invent english,-

In fact, English, French, Spanish, And German
Are all derivatives of Latin.

Furthermore, more people speak Spanish than English, and more people speak Mandarin than Spanish.

 

[TheGodsNaruSasu]

No one ever said that they were a United group of people but end of the day it was natives Americans who were here first and have claim to this land and if you want to get technical it they built the first civilizations over here that was later destroyed mostly due to Europeans invading on their soil if not for that they would've had their own society just as if not more advanced to the one we currently inhabit.

 

[Kenotthib]

Have you ever encountered anyone who said that who was not native american? I was in walmart the other day looking at a Spanish magazine and this lady said" I don't understand why we have those things. This was our country first.They need to get out." I just kind of looked at her with a disgust look on my face. She didn't notice but a family of Mexicans were also looking at her be racist. I think that it is stupid that some people actually think like that especially when their ancestors don't originally come from america. It's seems a little hypocritical.

While I think it's a ignorant statement for someone to claim they were here before the native americans. The idea that land belongs to anybody is a stupid manmade concept.

Edit: Plus in this world if you want to claim something. Gang, territory, a religion, etc. You have to be strong enough to defend it.