Remember Gum Gum Storm on Crocodile? Nightmare Luffy did the same thing on Oars and Moriah only he wasn't flying up but against Oars while hitting his stomach and Moriah with a gatling. I was suggesting that solves the problem of Doffy being sent too far away before Luffy is done with the gatling. Also Luffy can only keep hitting him untill he hits the birdcage and through it, or through a mountain, Doflamingo will be finished before Luffy needs to keep pursuing him with the gatling.Good point, although we saw how the mountain crumbled just from Doffy leaving the whole that Luffy left him in, so I doubt it would last from hundreds of hits from a Kong gattling...
Must admit I can't even remember the moment you're talking about... Don't know why but TB is quite hazy to me which is why I'm going over it again, up to the SH's stalling / taking on Oars at the minutes. But even still, an on the floor Doffy with a Luffy just hovering over him at close range to deliver a gattling, I completely can't even imagine it, I know it's his signature move and all but with the way G4 works, I don't see a gattling really happening, especially a Kong one.
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As this gent quite rightly put, he did go flying onto the deck of a battleship. Plus, the anime over exaggerates this moment, the manga show's Luffy remembering people saying stuff and I would of thought this amounted to 2 seconds worth of hits before Lucci started being knocked back. Plus, the reason why Lucci stayed on the spot for so long was probably due to his Tekkai, it endured Luffy's attack for mere moments.
Now you may say Doffy will do the same but with Haki, however Luffy has already demonstrated that G4 smashed his haki and then some, so he would have to keep up with a flying Doffy with close quarters combat of continuous hits.
PLUS PLUS a huge reason why I don't see Luffy doing a G4 gattling is that he can't even keep himself still for it, so an aerial one is actually more than likely the way he would have to use it.
Regardless, my opinion is still that I can't see him having a G4 gattling, nor that he will go back into G4 to finish Doffy. I just don't think it would be best for the story but that's not for me to decide... Unfortunately
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Of course, how can someone forget the crocodile fight
but as I previously mentioned, he can't stay in the same place, so for a scenario like Crocodile to happen, it's unlikely, and as for the reverse or what you latter mentioned, the force that a Kong punch gives is so great that it sends Doffy flying and Luffy has to be very close to him for his Kong hits as they don't involve long ranged punches as his other modes do. I can't really see Luffy pursuing Doffy whilst in G4 with continuous punches going on.By the way, unless this wasn't clear, when I mean a G4 gattling or Kong gattling, we are talking about where he retracts his arm in and then fires away, so a gattling version would obviously be this a multiple of times over... I can see how he can just do a short burst of a gattling gun that would be the same as base or G2 but I can't see it being worth bothering wasting energy on getting into G4 for a simple round of normal stretched out punches... If that makes sense :/
Luffy can do culverin so he can still stretch far it seems, a gatling don't need to be over crazy distance especially when you got birdcage to keep Mingo from flying out and if he does fly out it means he became unconcious.Of course, how can someone forget the crocodile fight
By the way, unless this wasn't clear, when I mean a G4 gattling or Kong gattling, we are talking about where he retracts his arm in and then fires away, so a gattling version would obviously be this a multiple of times over... I can see how he can just do a short burst of a gattling gun that would be the same as base or G2 but I can't see it being worth bothering wasting energy on getting into G4 for a simple round of normal stretched out punches... If that makes sense :/
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I've wanted an extended fight between these two the whole time but I don't like how Oda showed off this fight, but that's just me. I now hope it's a one shot finisher just to end this arc and if he goes back into G4 (which I hope he doesn't) then I want a headbut like he did through Doffy's awakening, Red hawk (or finish it exactly like the Lucci fight, but that would be lame), or and my hopes are for this option, clash of conquerors in some epic final decision moment scenario type-a-deal
Same here i actually somehow want the Arc to end now and i want an Arc more focusing on Gol d Roger or Dragon or something else or KaidoI've wanted an extended fight between these two the whole time but I don't like how Oda showed off this fight, but that's just me. I now hope it's a one shot finisher just to end this arc and if he goes back into G4 (which I hope he doesn't) then I want a headbut like he did through Doffy's awakening, Red hawk (or finish it exactly like the Lucci fight, but that would be lame), or and my hopes are for this option, clash of conquerors in some epic final decision moment scenario type-a-deal
Yes Kaido should be the next one they face
I want to see how strong Kaido is
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There are a few translations so I'm not sure which move you're talking about, is it the cavalary one that he used before the Python move and just shortly after? Because the last chapter mentioned "Kong" I assumed this to mean his retracting punch move, eliminating and stretching *ranged* attacks.
I know it doesn't have to be over a crazy distance, it's just that after the first hit and Doffy get's sent flying (this becomes the distance) it would be hard to continue pursuing him with a gattling... That's the point I'm trying to make, I get there are possibilities to where he probably can, but I don't see it happening with Doffy or under a possible circumstance, such as you mentioned.
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I imagine there will be an upcoming arc where either Dragon is mentioned or is directly involved and I'm pretty excited for it
However with Roger, what reason could Oda use to have a flashback of his? Someone having a memory or a secret being revealed that Roger knew and possible fought for? I absolutely love One Piece and feel like it's future stories can only get better!.... Just as soon as this arc is put to bed :OOh and I hope Kaido isn't next, that would have to be a pretty big arc too man... Although, with BM and Kaido now directly pissed at the SH's, they should have contact with them soon. We saw how fast Shanks and even Mihawk on his little boat travels the seas, so it shouldn't be that hard or take that long for them to reach the SH's, whether it's them in person or their crew, they should have a conflict soon if not often >.>
Aye, it's a possibility, I guess Oda could do that as he can do whatever he wants... But just think about it, Luffy would practically have to be hovering a metre or so above Doflamingo (assuming this is "Kong" gattling that is) and I just personally can't see how that would work, even in the OP world :/
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Good point about the fact that he can't keep still. Not to mention that Gear 4 works by bringing the limb in and having it build up tensile strength due to the pressure, and then releasing it, causing that pressure to be released which creates a bigger impact. A G4 Gatling would look and be pretty lame because he'd have to bring his arm in and keep it there for a few seconds to build up the tensile strength. Otherwise, he'd end up delivering punches that were weaker than the initial punch.Good point, although we saw how the mountain crumbled just from Doffy leaving the whole that Luffy left him in, so I doubt it would last from hundreds of hits from a Kong gattling...
Must admit I can't even remember the moment you're talking about... Don't know why but TB is quite hazy to me which is why I'm going over it again, up to the SH's stalling / taking on Oars at the minutes. But even still, an on the floor Doffy with a Luffy just hovering over him at close range to deliver a gattling, I completely can't even imagine it, I know it's his signature move and all but with the way G4 works, I don't see a gattling really happening, especially a Kong one.
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As this gent quite rightly put, he did go flying onto the deck of a battleship. Plus, the anime over exaggerates this moment, the manga show's Luffy remembering people saying stuff and I would of thought this amounted to 2 seconds worth of hits before Lucci started being knocked back. Plus, the reason why Lucci stayed on the spot for so long was probably due to his Tekkai, it endured Luffy's attack for mere moments.
Now you may say Doffy will do the same but with Haki, however Luffy has already demonstrated that G4 smashed his haki and then some, so he would have to keep up with a flying Doffy with close quarters combat of continuous hits.
PLUS PLUS a huge reason why I don't see Luffy doing a G4 gattling is that he can't even keep himself still for it, so an aerial one is actually more than likely the way he would have to use it.
Regardless, my opinion is still that I can't see him having a G4 gattling, nor that he will go back into G4 to finish Doffy. I just don't think it would be best for the story but that's not for me to decide... Unfortunately
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Exactly! Aha thanks, but I'm not saying it's impossible, just don't think it would suit being a G4 attack, especially related to his Kong punches :/