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just a video kinda showing what has happened in Israel/Palestine/Canaan/the Levant over the last few thousand years.... its pretty simple yet it tells us so much...
it just shows the stupidity of men and the results of our greed, hatred and selfishness....

[video=youtube;-evIyrrjTTY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY[/video]

a moment of silence for all people who gave their lifes :(

(btw i am not religious...but i do have respect for human life...and whats going on (not only there, but in many places on our earth) is ****ing bullshit....)
 

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I was expecting a Black Zetsu wank thread Lol
 

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*shrug*

I'm a practical person. The reality is that the arabs are impossible to reason with. While Israel may be very utilitarian in their manipulation of larger powers (they have been known to attempt to bait our military into war against other nations) - they can actually be reasoned with.

I do not understand the point of wishing for 'peace' between two parties, one of which will never be satisfied so long as there are two parties. Any such peace is only the preparation for the next round of war.

So just get it over with. Israel should drive 'palestine' into the sea and hunt them down to the last child if it wishes to survive. Since 'palestine' lacks the actual power to eliminate Israel - it is the responsibility of Israel to capitalize on the advantage to minimize total loss of life. Do not let them breed new generations that will snip and snipe a few lives at a time for dozens of years. Just up and eliminate them.

Sure - nations like Iran will get pretty pissed, and there will be arabs rioting in western nations who begin demanding some kind of affiliation with the caliphate (those that do should be tried and executed for treason) - but it will deny those countries a proxy through which to wage war against Israel.

Let Iran send its own militants and place its own name upon its attacks.

Because, realistically, this is not going to end at this rate. Hamas, despite whatever delusions it may have, is not capable of doing much more than pissing Israel off.

They accuse Israel of genocide. The world, today, does not know what genocide is. Stack the bodies so high that the last bodies to add to the pile must be dropped from a helicopter. Give them a lesson in what genocide and indiscriminate killing really looks like. Show them just how efficiently the modern weapons of war can dispose of people and cities.

Israel is never going to win hearts and minds. People have already chosen their side in this - and it's time to let the chips fall where they may.
 

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*shrug*

I'm a practical person. The reality is that the arabs are impossible to reason with. While Israel may be very utilitarian in their manipulation of larger powers (they have been known to attempt to bait our military into war against other nations) - they can actually be reasoned with.

I do not understand the point of wishing for 'peace' between two parties, one of which will never be satisfied so long as there are two parties. Any such peace is only the preparation for the next round of war.

So just get it over with. Israel should drive 'palestine' into the sea and hunt them down to the last child if it wishes to survive. Since 'palestine' lacks the actual power to eliminate Israel - it is the responsibility of Israel to capitalize on the advantage to minimize total loss of life. Do not let them breed new generations that will snip and snipe a few lives at a time for dozens of years. Just up and eliminate them.

Sure - nations like Iran will get pretty pissed, and there will be arabs rioting in western nations who begin demanding some kind of affiliation with the caliphate (those that do should be tried and executed for treason) - but it will deny those countries a proxy through which to wage war against Israel.

Let Iran send its own militants and place its own name upon its attacks.

Because, realistically, this is not going to end at this rate. Hamas, despite whatever delusions it may have, is not capable of doing much more than pissing Israel off.

They accuse Israel of genocide. The world, today, does not know what genocide is. Stack the bodies so high that the last bodies to add to the pile must be dropped from a helicopter. Give them a lesson in what genocide and indiscriminate killing really looks like. Show them just how efficiently the modern weapons of war can dispose of people and cities.

Israel is never going to win hearts and minds. People have already chosen their side in this - and it's time to let the chips fall where they may.

wow.... i dont even know what to say... but tbh i expected replies like this one...i dont even know where to start....
lets just say, people like you are for a big part responsible of these kind of situations.... i hope you feel terrible now. but judging by your profile pic and assuming its you, i guess youre just another brainless pawn of your nation

given fairness and enough education peace could be achieved. but as i already said their religion, their greed and selfishness will never allow such a thing to happen. im pretty sure though, that both parties would rather have peace(just accodring to their ideas) than war. palestine doesnt want to have war, but when your cornered so much there is no other option...like a cornered cat that attacks you back. but holy shit once one rocket is shot on an israel soldier and the whole world goes apeshit, while they themselfes kill soldiers, civilians and childrens without blinking an eye...
 
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wow.... i dont even know what to say... but tbh i expected replies like this one...i dont even know where to start....
lets just say, people like you are for a big part responsible of these kind of situations.... i hope you feel terrible now. but judging by your profile pic and assuming its you, i guess youre just another brainless pawn of your nation

While he may be crude he is actually right .... When did a War stop because of friendship power and flowers? Neither Israel nor Palestine will ever back down for long ... so the only choice is to utterly shatter the backbone of one faction or the other. If you see history you would notice that WW II happened only because they tried to appease Germany after WW I and did not utter break them.
 

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While he may be crude he is actually right .... When did a War stop because of friendship power and flowers? Neither Israel nor Palestine will ever back down for long ... so the only choice is to utterly shatter the backbone of one faction or the other. If you see history you would notice that WW II happened only because they tried to appease Germany after WW I and did not utter break them.

ok 1. ww2 happened 70 years ago, back then the whole world and our ethics and morality were on a whole other level. 2. ww2 started because after ww1 germany was crushed like a bug and in dept and was taken its military and a whole other bunch of things. they kept them down by force, so its only natural there would be a reaction to that. if the same would be done to palestine the same scenery like in germany 70 years ago would occur....

there are other ways, and im not talking about friendship. im talking about fairness. neither of those nations (especially the palestine) wants this war...
 

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wow.... i dont even know what to say... but tbh i expected replies like this one...i dont even know where to start....
lets just say, people like you are for a big part responsible of these kind of situations.... i hope you feel terrible now. but judging by your profile pic and assuming its you, i guess youre just another brainless pawn of your nation

You don't know where to start because you don't have a point other than: "Killing people is wrong."

given fairness and enough education peace could be achieved. but as i already said their religion, their greed and selfishness will never allow such a thing to happen. im pretty sure though, that both parties would rather have peace(just accodring to their ideas) than war. palestine doesnt want to have war, but when your cornered so much there is no other option...like a cornered cat that attacks you back. but holy shit once one rocket is shot on an israel soldier and the whole world goes apeshit, while they themselfes kill soldiers, civilians and childrens without blinking an eye...

You're not very informed on this issue.

Hamas houses rockets under school buildings, under hospitals, and launches rockets from those same locations.

Israel calls these people and lets them know that an airstrike is inbound. Hamas operatives then hold up the civilians at gunpoint to ensure they are there when Israel bombs the building.



The only time peace will be possible is when the palestinian authority recognizes the sovereignty of Israel and the right of the Israelis to live there. That requires the people who do want peace to throw out those who support Hamas (essentially a civil war/revolution).

Bluntly, that's not going to happen.

That leaves the only option for peace as the elimination of all of those who claim to be part of palestine. While the other arab nations are quick to use the palestinians as pawns in a proxy war by paying the families of suicide bombers and giving them munitions - when the palestinian people originally attempted to immigrate to those same nations, they were rejected and sent back.

There is no 'misunderstanding' that can be resolved.

The people who support Hamas will not be satisfied until they destroy Israel and, at the very least, subjugate the people of Israel (or just flat-out exterminate them).

Since they do not have that capability, but are being provided the capability to carry out acts of guerrilla warfare by various third parties (the U.N. included - which is why that institution needs to be done away with) - the only practical action that will result in anything resembling a lasting peace is the elimination of the palestinian authority.

That is how Europe was formed. Entire populations of ethnic groups were cleansed out of existence or simply managed to kill enough of the 'other guys' for a lasting line to be drawn in the sand. Only recently, after everyone has relatively settled into equally productive and wealthy lives, has there been any kind of lasting peace along the borders of the European nations (because no one has any real advantage over the other, and even if they did - there's not much of a reason to invade since there are no resources easy to seize that would make the effort worth it).

It sucks to be the weakest link - but that's life.
 

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ok 1. ww2 happened 70 years ago, back then the whole world and our ethics and morality were on a whole other level. 2. ww2 started because after ww1 germany was crushed like a bug and in dept and was taken its military and a whole other bunch of things. they kept them down by force, so its only natural there would be a reaction to that. if the same would be done to palestine the same scenery like in germany 70 years ago would occur....

World War II was World War I: Part 2.

For starters - it's impossible for the palestinian authority to replicate the German scene. Germany had industrial capability and natural resources worth mentioning.

Second - if you study European history - you'll find that ethnic cleansing is the standard, not the exception. People in Europe are very easy to motivate against people who look or speak differently because, culturally, the people have had lords over them rather than inspiring leaders among them.

It's a subtle cultural shift that allows them to easily deflect responsibility for their own behavior - just as you just did.

there are other ways, and im not talking about friendship. im talking about fairness. neither of those nations (especially the palestine) wants this war...

This is a naive viewpoint.

It's like saying the people of Germany didn't want the war - a completely useless observation because, even if they don't/didn't, they clearly aren't/didn't put a stop to it.

Further - it was this 'idea of fairness' that -allowed- WWII to happen, in the first place. The number of intelligence reports that indicated Hitler was leading Germany to violate the arms sanctions against it numbered in the hundreds over the years of Germany's buildup to war. At any time - there could have been an intervention.

Similarly - intelligence reports warned us of Japan's growing hostility toward our influence.

It was the idea that we could simply 'be fair' that led to a lot of problems growing to the point where a war was necessary.

Which is why Obama needs to shut the hell up and step away from Ukraine (not to derail the conversation). There really isn't a 'fair' solution to any of that issue over there, either. Someone is going away from that pissed off, and our attempts to insert ourselves into 'solving' the problem will only make it worse. Particularly if it is attempting to make 'peace.'

It's obvious they don't want peace - else they wouldn't be killing each other. Whatever their disagreement is - it's deeply held enough that they are willing to commit their lives to the argument.

Now - if we were to provide any kind of 'aid' to try and bring about 'peace?'

Here's what you do:

In America, book X number of hotel rooms. In a conflict region, take X number of group A and X number of group B. Make them share said rooms. Allow them to experience what America is like for, say, three months - to see what happens when no group of people is actually allowed to extort another group of people (well, we have to fix our own shit, first, for this to work - since we're busy digging in each other's pockets like good social fascists). Teach them about our constitution and how it establishes a limited government that does not give people power over each other. Allow them to shadow tradesmen who are entrepreneurs and business owners.

Then send them back to their native land.

If we ever do -anything- as a nation to try and establish peace anywhere, that should be the extent of our actions. Teach them what freedom looks like and how people who used to hate each other can live together peacefully under a limited government - let them see how it works and get a 'taste' of it. Then send them back to their homeland. Let them decide how to present the ideas of freedom to their culture (if at all) and lead their own citizens to that same level of prosperity.

The alternative is what we did in Germany and Japan following World War II. Occupy them and beat them over the head with a constitution that we drafted for them. Then babysit for 30 years before cutting the umbilical. But that's a very heavy handed interventionist approach that grates against my libertarian leanings (but, if we're going to be interventionists - we need to do it in a way that is going to work - or we end up with Iraq and Afghanistan).
 

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Aim64C is bang on the money, even though his solution was brutal. The Israeli president put it right when he said "If Palestine were to lay down their guns tomorrow, there would be no war. If Israel were to lay down theirs, there would be no Israel". It's true, especially given surrounding countries attitude to Israel.(like Iran for example)
 

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ok 1. ww2 happened 70 years ago, back then the whole world and our ethics and morality were on a whole other level.

If you think Morals and Ethics primarily drives the hands of countries then you are awefully deluded.

2. ww2 started because after ww1 germany was crushed like a bug and in dept and was taken its military and a whole other bunch of things. they kept them down by force, so its only natural there would be a reaction to that. if the same would be done to palestine the same scenery like in germany 70 years ago would occur....

Not at all were defeated but their backbone remained (Unlike say Japan after WW2) .... their Primary strength were there and when they were rising again the Powers kinda ignored or coddled them.

there are other ways, and im not talking about friendship. im talking about fairness. neither of those nations (especially the palestine) wants this war...

How can there be fairness when Israel is a paranoid thwat with aggression management issues while Palestine leadership wont be satisfied till Israel is wiped out ..... the fault is not one sided at all. Co existance is easily possible but demanding one party to simply vanish wont achieve it .... If Palestine really doesnt want the War they have to show it with actions such as routing Hamas or at least forcing him to accept the truce offered and stopping the slaughter, them may be becoming a sister state.
 
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If you think Morals and Ethics primarily drives the hands of countries then you are awefully deluded.



Not at all were defeated but their backbone remained (Unlike say Japan after WW2) .... their Primary strength were there and when they were rising again the Powers kinda ignored or coddled them.



How can there be fairness when Israel is a paranoid thwat with aggression management issues while Palestine leadership wont be satisfied till Israel is wiped out ..... the fault is not one sided at all. Co existance is easily possible but demanding one party to simply vanish wont achieve it .... If Palestine really doesnt want the War they have to show it with actions such as routing Hamas or at least forcing him to accept the truce offered and stopping the slaughter, them may be becoming a sister state.



Except Hitlar would have killed/enslaved the non Christians and other 'impure' races too .... Also your prayer actually shows the true colors of the issue: 'murder is ok as long as its not my favored people being killed'.



Your post doesn't make sense. I don't believe in religion and i'm German, so wth are you talking about favored people?!
I'm saying what has to be said. Behind every big thing is a damn jew. Zionsim is nothing but terrorism. Why should the palestine people give up and let Israel do what they waant? lol
Israel are the ones that try to steal land and killing innocent people while lying and saying they were soldiers. I ahve to laugh when i see people liek you post bullshit here.
 

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How can there be fairness when Israel is a paranoid thwat with aggression management issues while Palestine leadership wont be satisfied till Israel is wiped out ..... the fault is not one sided at all. Co existance is easily possible but demanding one party to simply vanish wont achieve it .... If Palestine really doesnt want the War they have to show it with actions such as routing Hamas or at least forcing him to accept the truce offered and stopping the slaughter, them may be becoming a sister state.

Well, existence would be easy for anyone if they simply followed according to one person's decree.

I mean... if everyone just did what I told them to do, there would be world peace. It's pretty simple and easy to do.

The main problem, which you have pointed out, is that there is a very strong presence of those all throughout islamic culture that want Israel destroyed. It really wouldn't matter where they were (though being in the midst of Arabs certainly does them no favors).

It isn't just Hamas. ISIS has declared that it is going to send warriors and/or people to help destroy Israel - or some such nonsense along those lines.

It has become the 'thing to do' for any islamic state to simply blame Israel for whatever problem is at hand. It's too hot outside - it's the damned Zionists (I'm not even sure if they know what that word means - they just use it because it sounds good). Can't get a trade deal? Zionists. Wife left you? Zionist-supporting western culture.

No need to reason through the problems they are facing - forget your problems and don a vest full of bombs for the glory of Allah (actually - talk about an ingenious way to get poor people who hate their existence to work for you).

I'm not so sure there is a truly objective analysis of the situation that paints the islamic nations as anything other than NuckingFutz and Israel as a utilitarian machine driven by the need to survive when surrounded by a bunch of crazies who want to kill them.

At some point, we have to start living in the modern world. Most of the Israelis alive today were not part of whatever decisions were made nearly a century ago to put Israel where it is, now. They were born into an area that they call home - and the group of palestinians that claim the land is theirs were overwhelmingly born elsewhere into a time when the land was not theirs.

There's nothing either side can do about it - except the palestinians have decided that they are going to just be incessant pains in the ass, blame every problem on Israel, and attack it whenever possible.

At some point, each generation must be held accountable for its own decisions and actions. I could be pissed about the discrimination this nation showed to my German ancestors when they first arrived from Germany... or I could go on about my life and develop my talents as an individual as all of my forefathers chose to do. Lo and behold - when we do that - the discrimination issue ceases to exist (of course, so, too, does the power of the politician - which is why you no longer see politicians running on anti-german propaganda like you did back at the turn of the century).

So long as Palestine continually chooses to see itself as the victim - and/or the people who claim to be a part of it neglect to hold their members accountable - peace is simply impossible so long as both parties exist.

The self-victimization is so deeply ingrained into the islamic culture, at this point, that I'm not really sure it's a practical goal - or one worth pursuing, to be honest.

I know that sounds insane to our culture - "Peace not worth pursuing" - but it's like trying to hold peace talks with a gang of bandits who demand protection money. They know that they can survive by threatening to make your life difficult if you don't pay to support their existence. They aren't going to change their ways through a hearts and minds campaign (at least, not very easily) - and about the only thing worth doing is offing the lot of them. Maybe you end up killing a bunch of misled boys along with them - but that's the cost of liberty.

Except Hitlar would have killed/enslaved the non Christians and other 'impure' races too .... Also your prayer actually shows the true colors of the issue: 'murder is ok as long as its not my favored people being killed'.

To be fair - Hitler was typical of European politics. Ethnic cleansing of one variety or another is relatively common. Just look at the break up of Yugoslavia. What many Americans didn't (and still don't) understand about that whole issue is that it was driven by racism and ethnic purging more so than it was by politicians and dictators.

Which is why our noble (but stupid) attempts to bring democracy to them failed miserably. We offed a dictator and slapped the 'bad guys' on the wrists. Then we gave everyone the ability to vote. The 'good guys' elected petty dictators who said hateful things about the 'bad guys' before leading marches to kill them off and drive them out of the country.

And we didn't understand what the **** was going on.

The idea that groups of white people could commit racist acts of violence against each other was inconceivable (particularly when that difference was simply the dialect of a language that had been classified as an entirely separate language and/or a style of clothing).

And while our actions may have been noble (on our part) - it was perceived as an endorsement of one side over the other - or as some weird alien invasion that promised peace yet allowed hateful people to control things. It was basically: ".... What the **** was that? ... Those people were weird. Why the hell did they help those bastards out? ... Eh, doesn't matter, we need to relocate these illiterate ****s who think 'e' is a proper part of the language before our kids inherit such nonsense."

Sure - the politicians/warlords stirred things up - but the culture throughout much of Eruope is one that is very prone to being stirred up by someone accusing some group or another of being the problem that needs to be eliminated.
 

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I don't believe in religion

That means the whole world doesn't right? That doesnt mean the Hitlar would have turned a tolerant hippie right?

and i'm German, so wth are you talking about favored people?!

You certainly don't favor Jews. And certainly dont care about people Hitler would have wanted gone.

I'm saying what has to be said. Behind every big thing is a damn jew.

Behind every thing big there is a Westerner .... see how that sounds?

Zionsim is nothing but terrorism.

Maybe ... but at least they can be reasoned with.

Why should the palestine people give up and let Israel do what they waant? lol

Well if they want to fight a Power they cant defeat they are very welcome to it and the result we can see.

Israel are the ones that try to steal land and killing innocent people while lying and saying they were soldiers.

Well honestly speaking Israel doesn't need land because Gaza doesnt have anything interesting to offer (Instead they actually supply much electricity 60% and other resources there) and they never actually denied they killed civilians ......


I ahve to laugh when i see people liek you post bullshit here.

Yeah ... wanting Hitler to be resurrected to finish his 'work' is saneshit right? lol.
 

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Not going to read a wall of pro Israel shit. You both are human scum and nothing else. Blaming me for being anti Jewish, while talking the Islam states are the evil that want to destroy holy Israel. Haha... man that crap made my day. Idc if you call me a german nazi, i still say proudly that i hate jews. Keep trying to defend your attacks on innocent people with lying and corrupted shit.
The world saw what Israel is and that the government is all about zionism. They even slaughter and hit there own people which are against the war and which try to get out of Israel. That's what you people are.

Don't even try to reply to me, since i won't read your pro Israel crap. My popcorn is ready for the day when Israel is under attack of bombs. Will be a great watch.

You are obviously proud of it and want others to call you a Nazi..at the same time... Your honest confession and show of racist hate just helped Israel's cause though. Whether you realize that or not. Be reasonable please if possible.

You are the first guy claiming to be German and wanting to be called Nazi I met at NB... Usually they are extra defensive and are likely to jump on others for slightest show of real or perceived racism around here.
 
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Well, existence would be easy for anyone if they simply followed according to one person's decree.

I mean... if everyone just did what I told them to do, there would be world peace. It's pretty simple and easy to do.

The main problem, which you have pointed out, is that there is a very strong presence of those all throughout islamic culture that want Israel destroyed. It really wouldn't matter where they were (though being in the midst of Arabs certainly does them no favors).

It isn't just Hamas. ISIS has declared that it is going to send warriors and/or people to help destroy Israel - or some such nonsense along those lines.

It has become the 'thing to do' for any islamic state to simply blame Israel for whatever problem is at hand. It's too hot outside - it's the damned Zionists (I'm not even sure if they know what that word means - they just use it because it sounds good). Can't get a trade deal? Zionists. Wife left you? Zionist-supporting western culture.

No need to reason through the problems they are facing - forget your problems and don a vest full of bombs for the glory of Allah (actually - talk about an ingenious way to get poor people who hate their existence to work for you).

I'm not so sure there is a truly objective analysis of the situation that paints the islamic nations as anything other than NuckingFutz and Israel as a utilitarian machine driven by the need to survive when surrounded by a bunch of crazies who want to kill them.

At some point, we have to start living in the modern world. Most of the Israelis alive today were not part of whatever decisions were made nearly a century ago to put Israel where it is, now. They were born into an area that they call home - and the group of palestinians that claim the land is theirs were overwhelmingly born elsewhere into a time when the land was not theirs.

There's nothing either side can do about it - except the palestinians have decided that they are going to just be incessant pains in the ass, blame every problem on Israel, and attack it whenever possible.

At some point, each generation must be held accountable for its own decisions and actions. I could be pissed about the discrimination this nation showed to my German ancestors when they first arrived from Germany... or I could go on about my life and develop my talents as an individual as all of my forefathers chose to do. Lo and behold - when we do that - the discrimination issue ceases to exist (of course, so, too, does the power of the politician - which is why you no longer see politicians running on anti-german propaganda like you did back at the turn of the century).

So long as Palestine continually chooses to see itself as the victim - and/or the people who claim to be a part of it neglect to hold their members accountable - peace is simply impossible so long as both parties exist.

The self-victimization is so deeply ingrained into the islamic culture, at this point, that I'm not really sure it's a practical goal - or one worth pursuing, to be honest.

I know that sounds insane to our culture - "Peace not worth pursuing" - but it's like trying to hold peace talks with a gang of bandits who demand protection money. They know that they can survive by threatening to make your life difficult if you don't pay to support their existence. They aren't going to change their ways through a hearts and minds campaign (at least, not very easily) - and about the only thing worth doing is offing the lot of them. Maybe you end up killing a bunch of misled boys along with them - but that's the cost of liberty.



To be fair - Hitler was typical of European politics. Ethnic cleansing of one variety or another is relatively common. Just look at the break up of Yugoslavia. What many Americans didn't (and still don't) understand about that whole issue is that it was driven by racism and ethnic purging more so than it was by politicians and dictators.

Which is why our noble (but stupid) attempts to bring democracy to them failed miserably. We offed a dictator and slapped the 'bad guys' on the wrists. Then we gave everyone the ability to vote. The 'good guys' elected petty dictators who said hateful things about the 'bad guys' before leading marches to kill them off and drive them out of the country.

And we didn't understand what the **** was going on.

The idea that groups of white people could commit racist acts of violence against each other was inconceivable (particularly when that difference was simply the dialect of a language that had been classified as an entirely separate language and/or a style of clothing).

And while our actions may have been noble (on our part) - it was perceived as an endorsement of one side over the other - or as some weird alien invasion that promised peace yet allowed hateful people to control things. It was basically: ".... What the **** was that? ... Those people were weird. Why the hell did they help those bastards out? ... Eh, doesn't matter, we need to relocate these illiterate ****s who think 'e' is a proper part of the language before our kids inherit such nonsense."

Sure - the politicians/warlords stirred things up - but the culture throughout much of Eruope is one that is very prone to being stirred up by someone accusing some group or another of being the problem that needs to be eliminated.

While I am still young and immature .... I am not unfamiliar to these Politics. As I have pointed out long ago I am descended from the Hindu Refugees who were driven out of East Pakistan (Now Bangladesh) due to similar Hate Politics .... So I truely see the truth in your words. In such cases peace can only be obtained if one side is trampled satisfactorily enough never to rise again like it happened to my people .... Yes I would love to be in my ancestral lands, where we belonged for generations but alas the world is not what we want to be, it is the way it is so I am content with what I have now and bear no ill will for the past (But learn lesson from it) and infinitely thankful to my Grandparents and those that took us in for they swallowed their loss and decided build instead of fighting so that we their children could one day rise and not be counted as another body in the cycle of violence if they persisted.


Not going to read a wall of pro Israel shit. You both are human scum and nothing else.

Says the Hitler Fanboy.

Blaming me for being anti Jewish,

Nope just blame you for being Anti-Practical and Anti-sensible.

while talking the Islam states are the evil that want to destroy holy Israel.

Honestly .... If Palestine was the one dominating Israel, then I would have been advocating Israel to back down. No point in fighting a losing war.

Haha... man that crap made my day.

Hitler resurrection made my day too .... and a German who dont know their own politics.

Idc if you call me a german nazi, i still say proudly that i hate jews.

Well you dont care about other people who was not in Nazi Gemany Friend list either ....... Honestly you dont even have the idea that Hitler would have wiped out the Palestinians anyway and that is laughable.

Keep trying to defend your attacks on innocent people with lying and corrupted shit.

Please point me out the white untainted flower in this, if they exist.

The world saw that Israel is and that the government is all about zionism. They even slaughter and hit there own people which are against the war and which try to get out of Israel. That's what you people are.

People also get Daily updates how kind and tolerant Islamic states are too ..... So should I hold that against them too?

Don't even try to reply to me, since i won't read your pro Israel crap.

I doubt if you can comprehend anything in the first place.

My popcorn is ready for the day when Israel is under attack of bombs. Will be a great watch.

They are under attack ... just its not that effective.

Didn't you say that you were Turkish?

Either he is Turkish German or he thought his argument would seem more convincing if he said he is German. (His knowledge base and style of writing isnt exactly German though)
 
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While I am still young and immature .... I am not unfamiliar to these Politics. As I have pointed out long ago I am descended from the Hindu Refugees who were driven out of East Pakistan (Now Bangladesh) due to similar Hate Politics .... So I truely see the truth in your words. In such cases peace can only be obtained if one side is trampled satisfactorily enough never to rise again like it happened to my people .... Yes I would love to be in my ancestral lands, where we belonged for generations but alas the world is not what we want to be, it is the way it is so I am content with what I have now and bear no ill will for the past (But learn lesson from it) and infinitely thankful to my Grandparents and those that took us in for they swallowed their loss and decided build instead of fighting so that we their children could one day rise and not be counted as another body in the cycle of violence if they persisted.

Ah but at that time the land was not being secured for Jews and people being driven off were Hindus so it was fine. I mean the people who worship idols and cows and are not even Kitabia ..Why would you even compare yourself to rest of the human beings losing their land due to outsiders..

You just tried to cut your losses and move on building new lives for yourselves. How foolish!! Let's have some more infiltration and give Assam too.
 
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Ah but at that time the land was not being secure for Jews and people being driven off were Hindus so it was fine. I mean the people who worship idols and cows and are not even Kitabia ..Why would you even compare yourself to rest of the human beings losing their land due to outsiders..

You just tried to cut your losses and move on building new lives for yourselves. How foolish!! Let's have some more infiltration and give Assam too.

LoL .... I really hate that card. But honestly I rather be considered the epitome of cruelty than a Hypocrite.

Funny. America was built upon lands taken away from the natives and wiping them off. Now they want to wipe off muslims

The feeling was mutual for last 200 years I think.
 
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