This is why I hate humans

[oShux]

Did you ever see animal eating a plant ? They don't usually follow this .

They might eat the whole thing =killing it

Just stop it..

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Did you ever see animal eating a plant ? They don't usually follow this .

They might eat the whole thing =killing it

This is because our diet is different. We are still animals. Case in point: We have centrioles in our cells, which is the signature for the Kingdom Animalia.

 

[Tingun]

:| What no its not, you know damn well you'd save your ****ing one family member over the two strangers.


Anyways, not really ants are a society that relys on exact teamwork and cooperation, whereas we humans can be solitary and rarely work together as a cause,

Two ants is a huge blow to the colony, as they work a ridiculously larger amount then us,

Whereas one human isn't going to do much to the human population, neither its individual population (town's cities Etc) As their is only one economy,

Ant colonies each have separate "economies" if you will lol, or resources


And no i read your last post...And saw the ignorance and called you out on it U_U

Still no, saving a family member is not more ethical than saving 2 human beings.

No, harvester ants are literally some of the most disposable beings on the planet. They have at the low end 60 day lifespans, and have little sentience as compared to humans. When comparing this to a creature with skills that have become compound abilities over decades and a memory and complex biological structure along with a 60-80 year lifespan and the largest intellectual capacity on the planet, saying that an ant is equivalent is farcical.

Yet you still have yet to accurately access how an animal such as an ant's biological capacity surpasses that of a human being.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Still no, saving a family member is not more ethical than saving 2 human beings.

No, harvester ants are literally some of the most disposable beings on the planet. They have at the low end 60 day lifespans, and have little sentience as compared to humans. When comparing this to a creature with skills that have become compound abilities over decades and a memory and complex biological structure along with a 60-80 year lifespan and the largest intellectual capacity on the planet, saying that an ant is equivalent is farcical.

Yet you still have yet to accurately access how an animal such as an ant's biological capacity surpasses that of a human being.

Ecologically, ants are supremely beneficial to the biosphere. Please continue

 

[Tingun]

Ecologically, ants are supremely beneficial to the biosphere. Please continue

This is true, however human beings have a much greater capacity as beneficiaries than a single ant. However as it is clearly shown, a more advanced sentience also deters this.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Still no, saving a family member is not more ethical than saving 2 human beings. .

Actually you're both right. Ethics and morals are subjugated to personal opinion as well as the general consensus of mass opinion. Look at the mind of a serial killer. Some don't even comprehend the morality of their actions, and killing others has literally no effect on them. At the same time if I even think about killing someone I get sickened by it. Different morals and arguably brain functionality changes the ethics.

Thus, the ethics of saving family or a multitude of strangers can be justifiable either way. Ethically, it is considered right to protect one's family. It's also ethnically good to save a large number of people at the cost of one person. The more people viewing the situation without an emotional bond to the solo individual, the more they are inclined to protect the masses. The more one is related to the solo individual, the harder the situation becomes OR, the closer to the Solo individual the person becomes.




As for ants, they have a hive mentality. It's probably more likely in terms of mind set, ants don't think of a loss of any number of ants is the worst thing so long as the stability of the hive is maintained. Thus, instead of being viewed as horrible losses, they'd be stepping stones to survival.



Life is life there's no difference between me and an Ant except for biological structure and degree of mental capacity. It's with thoughts and opinions we place value on a life. I consider human life more valuable than ant life even though in a grand scale of things there's honestly no difference. The clock keeps ticking and life continues and dies no matter what stage of it I or an ant is in.

 

[Crossroads]

[...]
This thread is why I hate generalizations.

Species have been going extinct since the dawn of time. There will be a time where this world crumbles at cracks to the very core and all life on this planet will cease to exist. Is it sad that we'll never be amazed by these rhino's again? Perhaps, but this doesn't justify such an outburst of ignorance. Generalizing something as complex as the human mind and will because of something that a specific group of people are responsible for is nothing short of absurd.

Sincere apologies if I came off as rude, but I'd be more specific in what you're talking about. The person I was 2-3 years ago would probably type "I feel terrible, hopefully it won't happen again!", but it'll happen again until "we" drain the world dry of it's beauty.

 

[Οdin]

Agent Smith: "I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure."

I agree with this guy. u_u

Kidding...
...it's sad though.

 

[raziel777]

[...]
This thread is why I hate generalizations.

Species have been going extinct since the dawn of time. There will be a time where this world crumbles at cracks to the very core and all life on this planet will cease to exist. Is it sad that we'll never be amazed by these rhino's again? Perhaps, but this doesn't justify such an outburst of ignorance. Generalizing something as complex as the human mind and will because of something that a specific group of people are responsible for is nothing short of absurd.

Sincere apologies if I came off as rude, but I'd be more specific in what you're talking about. The person I was 2-3 years ago would probably type "I feel terrible, hopefully it won't happen again!", but it'll happen again until "we" drain the world dry of it's beauty.

Zack would never say that :'(

I don't think it's generalization. Yeah, species go extinct all the time. But right now, WE are causing it. On a massive scale. That's what is sad about it. The rhino is but one example. Just look around you. We are polluting the planet, not even for the sake of survival (I could agree with that) but for money. We are just being greedy. And childish. I just think that we should find a way to reconcile growth and nature. I mean, it's an important part of what we are. We should do our best to not destroy it. I'm by no mean saying with should go back to cave days (eww) but we should mind our surroundings. We can't leave the planet if we screw up

 

[Europa]

Agent Smith: "I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure."

I agree with this guy. u_u

Kidding...
...it's sad though.

Interesting... Quote Stevie

 

[Crossroads]

Zack would never say that :'(

I don't think it's generalization. Yeah, species go extinct all the time. But right now, WE are causing it. On a massive scale. That's what is sad about it. The rhino is but one example. Just look around you. We are polluting the planet, not even for the sake of survival (I could agree with that) but for money. We are just being greedy. And childish. I just think that we should find a way to reconcile growth and nature. I mean, it's an important part of what we are. We should do our best to not destroy it. I'm by no mean saying with should go back to cave days (eww) but we should mind our surroundings. We can't leave the planet if we screw up

[...]
(While Zack is amazing, he's also a fictional character and a figment of someone's imagination.. anyway..)

Your first mistake in this post would be more more generalization.. it's not something I particularly like (while being serious) and it's certainly not looked at as a whole as something that's positive.. it's very ignorant actually. No, I'm not causing rhino's of any form to go extinct. Am I doing something to prevent them going extinct? No... and it's not like it doesn't bother me to some extent. The problem in this thread is that majority of the people in here are looking at human's as one being, one mind, and one motive. This isn't the case at all. Period. End of story. I agree that I am contributing towards the pollution of the planet, I drive a car and the Co2 isn't helping the atmosphere. Though, I don't contribute towards any illegal poaching and I never will. Your entire post is filled with you viewing human beings as one person, which is lunacy.

 

[βeeCee]

This thread is why I hate humans. Hypocrisy everywhere.

 

[Craziie]

I know me too. V.V

 

[Ciao]

You say you hate humans but your avatar and location make you look like a tool.

 

[Aya San]

[...]
This thread is why I hate generalizations.

Species have been going extinct since the dawn of time. There will be a time where this world crumbles at cracks to the very core and all life on this planet will cease to exist. Is it sad that we'll never be amazed by these rhino's again? Perhaps, but this doesn't justify such an outburst of ignorance. Generalizing something as complex as the human mind and will because of something that a specific group of people are responsible for is nothing short of absurd.

Sincere apologies if I came off as rude, but I'd be more specific in what you're talking about. The person I was 2-3 years ago would probably type "I feel terrible, hopefully it won't happen again!", but it'll happen again until "we" drain the world dry of it's beauty.

Damn CrossRoads

 

[raziel777]

[...]
(While Zack is amazing, he's also a fictional character and a figment of someone's imagination.. anyway..)

Your first mistake in this post would be more more generalization.. it's not something I particularly like (while being serious) and it's certainly not looked at as a whole as something that's positive.. it's very ignorant actually. No, I'm not causing rhino's of any form to go extinct. Am I doing something to prevent them going extinct? No... and it's not like it doesn't bother me to some extent. The problem in this thread is that majority of the people in here are looking at human's as one being, one mind, and one motive. This isn't the case at all. Period. End of story. I agree that I am contributing towards the pollution of the planet, I drive a car and the Co2 isn't helping the atmosphere. Though, I don't contribute towards any illegal poaching and I never will. Your entire post is filled with you viewing human beings as one person, which is lunacy.

Not really, I was thinking of humans as a collective. Which is what we are. You yourself or I may not be causing rhinos to go extinct but what about the people that do ? You can't look past that. It's fact that humans (again, as a collective) are destroying the planet. You can't just say : Not my fault. You/I benefit from everything that we achieve as a whole. One single person cannot change our course but we are living in society. We have to accept that what we do affects others. Look at, say the Chinese or Indians. You could say, how does it matter that I have 6 children ? But it does. Why ? Because you are not alone. What about the millions others that could want to have 6 children ?

We may not be directly responsible (or even responsible) but mankind has to regulate his members.

@bold

No. Not at all. We don't have one mind or one motive. But are you saying that we do not share some cultural traits ? With the people living close to us. That's what anthropology is all about. Culture. It's everywhere. You wouldn't be the way you are if you had been born somewhere else.

 

[Crossroads]

[...]
Really didn't want to..

Spoiler

Not really, I was thinking of humans as a collective. Which is what we are. You yourself or I may not be causing rhinos to go extinct but what about the people that do ?

"What about the people that do..?" This is besides the point of the specific view I was addressing... unless you didn't/couldn't grasp the concept of what I was vividly stating. As a collective, the group of people who poached these animals are responsible.. not me. I've been working and doing school work minding my own business on a different continent, I shouldn't be generalized in the same category as the men responsible.

You can't look past that. It's fact that humans (again, as a collective) are destroying the planet. You can't just say : Not my fault. You/I benefit from everything that we achieve as a whole. One single person cannot change our course but we are living in society. We have to accept that what we do affects others. Look at, say the Chinese or Indians. You could say, how does it matter that I have 6 children ? But it does. Why ? Because you are not alone. What about the millions others that could want to have 6 children ?

No, I don't even understand this fallacy. By your logic, it was humans as a whole responsible for the Holocaust. It was the human's as a whole that conquered the Aztec's and the Inca's, it was human's as a whole that caused the genocide in Rwanda. Doesn't make much sense does it? Of course not. What about the select few that try and help the planet? Are you just going to overlook their hard work and motives..? The second half of this post is just senseless nonsense that you included to sway the argument in your favor.. I can't even...

No. Not at all. We don't have one mind or one motive. But are you saying that we do not share some cultural traits ? With the people living close to us. That's what anthropology is all about. Culture. It's everywhere. You wouldn't be the way you are if you had been born somewhere else.

What does sharing cultural traits and a few similarities on a national or even rural level have to do with being generalized when it comes to seven billion different minds? If you're saying that I'm destined to believe and act on what I was raised on, you are oh so mistaken.

I wouldn't even respond to this..

 

[Aya San]

Can't give more rep U_U

 

[Disquiet]

This thread is why I hate humans. Hypocrisy everywhere.

@Bold I was thinking this as well while reading through the thread.

 

[raziel777]

You didn't have to SPOILER it


"What about the people that do..?" This is besides the point of the specific view I was addressing... unless you didn't/couldn't grasp the concept of what I was vividly stating. As a collective, the group of people who poached these animals are responsible.. not me. I've been working and doing school work minding my own business on a different continent, I shouldn't be generalized in the same category as the men responsible.

No one is saying you are personally responsible for the rhino's extinction. I was extrapolating to say that our activities, as humans, is of great nuisance to the environment. More species have been extinct in the last 200 years than in all the years before (I'm not talking about natural exctinction) Will you deny that WE AS HUMANS are responsible for that.

Your problem is that you are taking it too personally.


No, I don't even understand this fallacy. By your logic, it was humans as a whole responsible for the Holocaust. It was the human's as a whole that conquered the Aztec's and the Inca's, it was human's as a whole that caused the genocide in Rwanda. Doesn't make much sense does it? Of course not. What about the select few that try and help the planet? Are you just going to overlook their hard work and motives..? The second half of this post is just senseless nonsense that you included to sway the argument in your favor.. I can't even...

Don't make say things I didn't say. I wasn't talking specifically about the rhino case. I meant, AS A WHOLE. If people didn't feel concerned because they were not the one doing it, why would there be ONGs like Green Peace ? You think the only way species become extinct is by hunting them ? Nope. We destroy their natural habitat to make cities that you and I live in. We kill some of their food source.

And no one is overlooking the hard work of those trying to save the Earth. But are you overlooking those that are trying to doom it because "I've been working and doing school work minding my own business on a different continent".

Those people felt responsible and are fighting for what they believe in.


What does sharing cultural traits and a few similarities on a national or even rural level have to do with being generalized when it comes to seven billion different minds? If you're saying that I'm destined to believe and act on what I was raised on, you are oh so mistaken.

I wouldn't even respond to this..

So you think where/how you have been raised has no impact on you ? Yeah right. Cultural diversity wouldn't exist then. So how you were schooled, the parenting that you had, the religion that you were born into, your friends, your country ? All that had no effect on you ?

Chinese people eat dogs. I find that repulsive. But what if I were born in China ? I would love eating dogs. It's just a random example.

No matter where you go, some things stay true. I'm not generalizing the whole 7 billions, saying they are the same. But they have things in common. That's why we are humans. We share things both biologically and psychologically. Patterns tend to repeat.