[Discussion] This is one of the reason why people never get in to one piece.(Big 3)

chopstickchakra

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Personally I find one piece funnier and more consistent.

I'll break it down like this
Naruto=One Piece
One Piece>Naruto Shippuden
PTS One Piece>>Naruto Shippuden

Naruto lost a lot of it's original message when Shippuden came around. Part 1's main lesson was work hard believe in yourself and you can accomplish your goals. Shippuden comes and now it's if you're not Senju/Uchiha/Uzumaki get outta my panel chump.

All of Naruto's work from point 1 now seems pointless as he was destined to be an amazingly strong character due to his Uzumaki lineage and their Senju relation. Part 1's main villain was from an unknown clan and near immortal, part 2's two main villains are both Uchiha and said part 1 villain was beaten by an Uchiha twice(though he did come back from both)

The whole fighting style changed as well(as it apparently had to with the drastic increase in power that was being introduced in Shippuden, some will say this is a good thing I didn't care for it) part 1 had a lot more tactical elements to the fights and deception. Shippuden is about who has the biggest attack and can the enemies biggest defense stop it? When's the last time Sasuke used a chidori variant(the itachi fight?) or Naruto used Sexy no Jutsu(it defeated almost every jounin if not every jounin he showed it to in Konoha including the Hokage and a Sannin) heck Naruto hardly even uses shadow clone that much anymore and that used to be his main premise of attack. When's the last time someone dodged a near fatal hit with substitution jutsu?

The pace of Naruto has just changed too drastically for me to still call it my favorite. While the One Piece power has drastically increased the fighting styles have remained constant. Luffy still uses a lot of the same techniques, Sanji has remained a foot only fighter, Zoro has stayed to his swords etc. etc.

I agree fans can be very off putting with their avid admiration in fact that is partly what kept me from watching it for so long. That and the late 90's animation(which does get better) People talked it up so much and what they love about the show just simply can't be seen within the first 100 episodes it takes longer than that to build the connection with One Piece where Naruto establishes that connection within the first 20 episodes. Once you get to the point where the crew gets Franky to join though I honestly don't see how you couldn't be into OP.
 

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the guy in the 2nd video was chatting bullshit, he is judging the action of people back in a time when gods ruled and if their was a rule not to do something majority of people won't do it, out of fear. also its a legend and the events in legends will always be stretched from the truth
 

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I don't really care what anyone says I have read Op and just didn't like it I think it is extremely overrated. That's just my opinion I know it's very popular but I just don't like it. And I do understand what the op is saying OP fans can be brutal when there is any criticism of OP.

Dragon Ball> YuYu Hakusho> Deadman Wonderland> Bleach> Naruto> Breaker> AoT> HSDK

^^^^^ I acknowledge that DBZ isn't the best story wise on my list it is more of a nostalgic thing for me as it brought me into manga/anime. Again this is just my opinion and I am sure it is different from a lot of yours that's why it's an opinion
 

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Yeah there are some shitty fans, but actually the real reason people can't get into it is usually either the length or that they can't take it seriously.
 

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I'm pretty sure Naruto fans are much worse and here's why

1. One Piece fans: most started out as Naruto fans and were than introduced to OP and started liking it, indeed most prefer it to Naruto but they still love both, I myself got into OP sooner but even if imo OP is the best manga I still love Naruto and I rarely overly criticize it (unless a chapter deserves it, and the last 3 DO)

2. Naruto fans: many (prob most) love Naruto and never gave OP a try hence they dislike OP because they can't accept the fact that most ppl who follow both series prefer OP to their fav series
 

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^ Lol at this guy

Naruto's a pretty solid anime, U_U its my all time favorite and i've seen plenty of anime U_U Its loads a head of the other Big Three in terms of Plot, Characters, Action

Most people who shit on Naruto don't even realize that they still keep on reading the manga? Why because they want to see what happens next as its a great plot,
 

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the fandom

I like the big 3,but i think there are beter anime/manga in my opinion. Now i'm not trying to bring a flamewar,
between the big 3 fandom.The thing i want to discuss is One piecetards/fans,they piss me off like really:rage:

whenever there is a bad chapter/episode (One piece),and you say that you didn't like it and give your reasons why
they get mad and -rep you with this *insult*...One piece>>>>>>>>>Shitnaruto/shitBleach.Why is it if a do it with
Naruto or Bleach people don't get buthurt

And they try to bring other serie's/mangaka's down Like this guys and it a weekly thingXD no mater how many dislikes
they gets (talking about no life)
<---no sense he thinks naruto is crap but he enjoys it:p

personally this is one of the reasons i don't enjoy it as much as i did.They ****ing act like one piece is the

newest testament.i just think people should respect each others opinion.:stfu:

Are you kidding me? Naruto and Bleach fans are just as fanatical and even worse. Last time I went to a bleach section on another forum (narutoforums) and said I didn't like the chapter, I received couple of negs. Don't get me started on Naruto fans. They'll go apeshit on you if you say something bad about their beloved manga.

Out of the Big 3, Naruto fans are the most annoying, by far.

Bleach fans are conceited and delusional. Despite reading other works, they still think Bleach is the best manga out there. They usually spend their days with their own kind (Bleach section/Bleach forums) endlessly wanking Kubo, characters and the Bleach itself.

Any negative criticism of their manga will result in a avalanche of negative reps.

Naruto fans are immature, ignorant and most of the time borderline retarded. Naruto fans are usually kids from 8 to 16 years, so immaturity and ignorance are their prevalent quality. They're usually people who haven't seen more than 5 manga/anime series (Naruto, Dragon Ball, Bleach, Fairy Tail and nowadays SAO/AoT), but they still blindly believe that their favorite manga is the best and will defend this opinion at all costs. They refuse to read other works, but they don't hesitate to bash them.

Negative criticism usually results in a magnitude of negs from Naruto fans and, in some cases, you'll have psychopaths stalking you, posting crap in your profile and even following you to other sections, where they will always try to argue with you and somehow prove their superiority. Often, in response to negative criticism, they'll be so pissed that they will go to the One Piece section and make a random thread about how One Piece sucks and is a childish, crappy manga (that they have never read).


One Piece fans are elitists and in some cases borderline religious zealots, but they are by far the least evil of the three. In fact, most of the bad fans are actually converted narutards/bleachtards or flip floppers, who jump from one trend to another, just so they can be elitists about it. The actual fandom is the most mature, educated and broad viewed out of any other you'll see on the internet (at least as for shounen manga goes). This is due to majority of the fans being 16-30 years old. Most of fans have read or are familiar with more than 10 series (10-200+) and therefore aren't as close minded as Naruto fans. In fact, a lot of One Piece fans don't even consider One Piece to be their favorite. Usually it's just up there in top 5 or top 10. That's because they are familiar with many other series and can judge One Piece objectively without bias, unlike Bleach fans. I personally consider One Piece to be the best battle shounen of all time, but it's only my 3rd favorite series, with Monster and Legend of Galactic Heroes taking up the second and first spot.

One Piece fans usually don't neg or insult others for negative criticism, unless it's not criticism at all and is just plain bashing of the manga/chapter. They will usually either ignore those or will enter in hour or day long debates to prove them wrong.

Bleach fandom is the North Korea of fandoms. They have secluded themselves in their own forums, delusionally believing their manga is the best or in some way exceptional, and they wank their leader (Kubo) to no ends.
They are annoying, but they don't impose themselves with their favorite manga like Naruto or One Piece fans. Although, at least One Piece fans will try to approach the subject with logical reasoning , whereas Naruto fans are simply like - "Nop, Naruto is the best manga of all time!!!! One Piece sucks and it is childish and retarded shit, durr.".

Morale of the story - All three manga have good and bad fans, but Naruto fans are the worst.
 

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^ Lol at this guy

Most people who shit on Naruto don't even realize that they still keep on reading the manga? Why because they want to see what happens next as its a great plot,

lol wut? I just read it on *********** along with One Piece and Bleach in one go. If it weren't hosted on *********** or mangareader, I wouldn't go out of my way to search for it and probably wouldn't even read it at all.

I am not invested in the manga at all, nor do I care what happens next. I don't even discuss it anywhere. I just read it, like you would read a newspaper while taking a shit. I guess, I just do it to pass the time.

Naruto's a pretty solid anime, U_U its my all time favorite and i've seen plenty of anime U_U Its loads a head of the other Big Three in terms of Plot, Characters, Action

I honestly doubt it. Unless the other manga you've read are equally as bad or worse than Naruto (Belzebuub, KHR, Ao No Exorcist, Bakugan etc). Explain how Naruto is loads a head of other big Three in terms of plot, characters and action.
 
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