This is not RSM
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Well he hasn't used KCM since he obtained Bijuu Mode
and we already saw his Bijuu Mode, which looks different, yet he's wearing the same clothes.
and we already saw his Bijuu Mode, which looks different, yet he's wearing the same clothes.
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Yes confirmed he uses bm / kcm 
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Yes confirmed he uses bm / kcm
Because RSM is overkill.
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Its RSM but not a full RSM.he have no eye pigmentation around his eyes but he have no TSB.
Naruto is not using his full RSM.its may be because movie may end quicker than BSM.
We already know how RSM naruto was playing with kaguya though
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Yeah....he doesn't have RSM anymore I'm convinced. He might have something in between BSM and RSM, but he'll never have a mode as impressive as the Madara/Kaguya/Sasuke fight again.
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The form in the trailer picture shown above is BM or BSM, but in Gaiden it is RSM because his skin is peachy and he has BSM eyes yet he lacks sage mode pigmentation around the eyes. Gaiden's RSM is just RSM using only Kurama's chakara as opposed to all 9 bijuus'.
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Please can you tell me a logical reason why naruto has lost his RSM all of a sudden when he still has it against kaguya,JJ madara and sasuke?
Not using RSM doesn't mean he don't have it.
Unless until its proved by manga that naruto has lost his RSM I will not listen to fanfics.
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I think he still has the version of RSM that we saw in the war. It is just that I think Naruto caught it... the syndrome.
What syndrome you ask?
I call it... six paths nerfing syndrome. It happens to all those who awaken the six paths senjutsu or become the 10 tails jinchuuriki.
Why do you think 10 tails jinchuuriki Obito couldn't use Kamui, didn't use rinnegan, and spent most of the fight blocking, tanking and dodging stuff rather than attacking?
Why do you think Rikudou Madara got robbed of his truth seeking balls, lacked a rinnegan eye, and spent the entire fight with Guy tanking Guy's attacks without himself attacking at all when Madara could have just quickly ended things with stuff like limbo, bijuudama, genjutsu, having the shinju tree itself absorb Guy's chakara, storm element, etc...?
It is because of six paths syndrome! That is: Whenever Kishi gives a character RSM or juubi power, he must absolutely make sure to rob them of half of there arsenal, and make sure that the character suddenly forgets about the other half that they have remaining?
This syndrome had a delayed effect on Naruto because he is the protagonist and he needed his full power in order to fight Madara, Kaguya, and Sasuke. Now that the focus is a little less on Naruto and a little more on characters like Sarada and Boruto, the syndrome takes full effect! Notice that Gaiden Naruto has only used chakara arms (I do seriously mean only chakara arms!)? That is the syndrome. Naruto hasn't even used rasengan in Gaiden! It is actually really sad.
Kishi, why did you do this? What happened to keeping Naruto and Sasuke equal? If Naruto has truly lost the RSM from the war, then it is sad to say, but:
Sasuke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naruto
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If his eyes don't manifest pigmentation around them, then it's definitely RSM. And Naruto has RSM, I'm sure about that.
That's your mistake. You're looking at Naruto's body and not his eyes. Naruto eyes determine if he's using RSM mode. If he doesn't have the dark pigmentation around his eyes he's using RSM. In the trailer we don't see the dark pigmentation around his eyes so that means he is using RSM.
There is a huge misconception about Naruto RSM. People fail to realize Naruto RSM has different level or modes. He has base RSM -
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- Full power RSM -
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That scene from the trailer looks similar to the gaiden where he's not using his full power RSM. Naruto's toad sage mode still has the dark pigmentaion around the eyes in the gaiden -
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Stop ignoring facts.
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Why would he not use his full power on a force even greater than Kaguya? It just doesn't make sense. And it's not "all of a sudden" it's been well over a decade since his fight with Sasuke. I'm not saying 100% that he lost it, I'm just saying I'm now convinced that he did.
The movie is not even out, yet people are claiming what Naruto will or won't do base off one scene. Even Sasuke's rinnegan eye is covered in that scene. Do you believe Sasuke won't be using the rinnegan or even lost the rinnegan for the movie since we don't see it in that scene?
This is my previous post it proves (with manga facts) why Naruto still has RSM.
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I'm going off The Last, the Gaiden, and the trailer for the movie. We've seen Sasuke with his Rinnegan, we've seen and been given a reason why Sasuke seemingly lost his power but didn't, but we have nothing for Naruto. He's been using inferior modes for what reason? I'll check out your post, but everything is speculation, even my view on the matter.
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look at his skin
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It doesn't prove any stuff, why ? because We neither got glimpse of Sasuke' left eye activated to Rinnegan, not even mentioning 6 tomoe Rinnegan.
The same is with Naruto. Of course it could be reason for that but maybe they are just not going all out yet. I sure that the best should be left for the end and not show it until necessary because else People wouldn't be such curious to watch this movie.
The same is with Naruto. Of course it could be reason for that but maybe they are just not going all out yet. I sure that the best should be left for the end and not show it until necessary because else People wouldn't be such curious to watch this movie.
My post is not speculation, it's manga fact. Naruto eyes determines if he's using RSM mode. If he doesn't have the dark pigmentation around his eyes then he's using RSM. The databook confirmed that.
The databook confirmed this Naruto -
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- and this Naruto -
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- were both in RSM. That mean this Naruto -
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- is using RSM. He just is using the 9 tails cloak instead of his full power. Why? Because Naruto eyes determines if he's using RSM mode. Since he didn't have the dark pigmentation around his eyes that means he was using RSM. Naruto's toad sage mode still has the dark pigmentaion around the eyes in the gaiden -
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- That's important because it lets us reads know his toad sage mode still has a different appearance than his RSM. The problem is you and others continue to ignore manga facts. The facts I just provided.
Yes, he wasn't using RSM in The Last, but that was because he didn't need to. He was strong enough to defeat Toneri without it. That's the same reason Naruto was shown fighting Toneri in base mode throughout the entire movie. Even after Toneri defeated him earlier.
So you can continue to ignore manga facts or not.