[Predictions] This is about Madara / Tobidara , Sasuke and Hashirama.

[scorezor]

1st about the mystery of tobi (that isn't yet fully revealed)

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In here , madara mentions about another fight (yep , this is taken from a thread) , from the thread of novacore.

also he mentions about the black zetsu and the white zetsu (their meaning , both in personality and in the series , if this makes sense)

meaning that something will happen or with the black zetsu or with the white zetsu and my theory is: black zetsu + black zetsu = madara.

Meaning that we have 2 madaras.

plus , in here ->

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this is a jutsu , that only hashirama can do , read well what he says ->

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the top part. meaning that it's a jutsu that only hashirama can do (maybe) and my guess is , the healing jutsu , because in the last page we see sasuke getting stabbed.

But you guys are going to reply: "oh... but hashirama doesn't do seals to do that" and then i'll say that , that it's wrong , bc... every ninjutsu has seals... for example... how come hashirama would "get" that technique WITHOUT DOING SEALS? don't you think that tobirama would have the same thing? even though if his dad or mom would have that technique "without doing seals"?

that's how skilled hashirama is xD. So yeah .

so... this is what can't happen: Sasuke can't use the izanami neither the izanagi bc he will loose an eye. I already have seen the fight (not the entire fight) of Sasuke vs Naruto , i don't have the link , but i've seen it and i've seen sasuke with both eyes.

Even if sasuke has the EMS he will loose an eye if he uses the izanagi or the izanami bc the EMS stands for: Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan meaning that the izanami and izanagi techniques aren't an mangekyou technique.

Plus , his hawk doesn't have the rinnegan , here is the proof of that -> [video=youtube;gR6SCEueT_M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gR6SCEueT_M[/video]

and plus , it also can't be a bushin , bc if it was a bushin , the blood wouldn't appear in the sword , here is the proof ->

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look at the end of the sword.

and well... that's pretty much it... sasuke will always heal himself and maybe fight madara and maybe he will tnj madara , bc... he resembles izuna and as you read in the chapter , madara was once a kind boy and the thing that he wanted the most is protecting his little brother izuna and what sasuke resembles of? Uchiha Izuna.

but then again... i don't think that madara will get TNJ , bc the 2 persons that "invented" the TNJ were Madara and Hashirama , Hashirama being the "good guy" and Madara being the "bad guy".

Or... is a new jutsu that we have never seen it , of hashirama (or that we don't remember ofc , bc read this , what hashirama said)

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in the top part U_U.

well i'm out , for now .

 

[sealingscroll]

Look up Sai's ink clone.

It gives off ink when the clone gets hit.

But plausible.

 

[TaBaYo]

It wasnt sasuke, i think, cos sasuke could have pulled out susano to stop the pierce of a sword. And if it was sasuke, then is a trap to let Madara off his guard and get closer to him in order to bind him.

 

[scorezor]

It wasnt sasuke, i think, cos sasuke could have pulled out susano to stop the pierce of a sword. And if it was sasuke, then is a trap to let Madara off his guard and get closer to him in order to bind him.

Madara used a rinnegan technique . You see him , before , he gets stabbed , you seem traces around sasuke's body / character and him asking "wtf is this".

 

[ANiMUS]

Good thread, but my guess is that Hashi gave Sasuke a binding jutsu that will work only cuz Madara has Hashi's power. He specially said that it was a way to stop Madara without fighting him. Of course healing might be a side effect of Hashi's chakra

 

[scorezor]

Good thread, but my guess is that Hashi gave Sasuke a binding jutsu that will work only cuz Madara has Hashi's power. He specially said that it was a way to stop Madara without fighting him. Of course healing might be a side effect of Hashi's chakra

but i don't know what that binding jutsu means , that's why my theory is only healing technique , bc he will try to TNJ Madara and even then , it will be a "doesn't effect move" xD

 

[ANiMUS]

but i don't know what that binding jutsu means , that's why my theory is only healing technique , bc he will try to TNJ Madara and even then , it will be a "doesn't effect move" xD

Well, regardless I see a power up. Hashi most likely did a self sacrificing technique to implant whatever he did into Sasuke. Besides that this gives the opportunity for character growth for Sasuke. To try and stop someone not by overpowering, but with empathy and cunning. I am looking forward to it.

 

[scorezor]

Well, regardless I see a power up. Hashi most likely did a self sacrificing technique to implant whatever he did into Sasuke. Besides that this gives the opportunity for character growth for Sasuke. To try and stop someone not by overpowering, but with empathy and cunning. I am looking forward to it.

oh... so... i know now... A SEALING TECHNIQUE O.O , Uzumakis were known as of master sealing techniques , which was done by the senju in the past , meaning that... (well , i think that it was done by the senju in the past) hashirama learned a technique BEFORE HE DIED and now he is going to show us , in this battle... is this good enough for you? .

 

[ANiMUS]

oh... so... i know now... A SEALING TECHNIQUE O.O , Uzumakis were known as of master sealing techniques , which was done by the senju in the past , meaning that... (well , i think that it was done by the senju in the past) hashirama learned a technique BEFORE HE DIED and now he is going to show us , in this battle... is this good enough for you? .

No, he said it responds to his Senjutsu chakra so it's something to counter Hashi's SM (Hashi making a counter for himself is so badass)

 

[scorezor]

No, he said it responds to his Senjutsu chakra so it's something to counter Hashi's SM (Hashi making a counter for himself is so badass)

oh okay

 

[Mattek2008]

Madara / Tobidara? what does that mean

 

[Rikudo Ero Sennin]

Look up Sai's ink clone.

It gives off ink when the clone gets hit.

But plausible.

Madara will not be fooled by a simple ink clone which even orochimaru can see through

 

[scorezor]

Madara / Tobidara? what does that mean

Madara is alive and "dead" at the same time , tobidara is a "nickname" that i call to the badass tobi and the true identity of tobi, which is madara.

I call it tobidara , because it's tobi + madara , thus making it = tobidara .

 

[Mattek2008]

Madara is alive and "dead" at the same time , tobidara is a "nickname" that i call to the badass tobi and the true identity of tobi, which is madara.

I call it tobidara , because it's tobi + madara , thus making it = tobidara .

total mindf*ck

 

[scorezor]

total mindf*ck

yep .

 

[Mattek2008]

yep .

I understand your point, but i disagree (I watched your YT video on the theory).

Here is why i disagree

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Look at what he says. Both you and Obito underestimated Madara's plan. If Tobi was really Madara controlling Obito, why would he say that?
Personally, i think it has something to do with this

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You see the black rods? I think that thouse rods containing Madara's will (His ideals) Slowly made Obito more and more like Madara in many ways. That might be why Madara said this

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Also, if Madara really was controlling Obito, why would he say this?

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He never considered himself an ally? I don't know man.

It's a cool, well thought out theory, but i think that you're looking too much into it. The moments when Tobi spoke with Kabuto, Konan and the Kages, calling himself Madara...I think the reason as to why he continued to refer to himself as Madara even after Kabuto found out his identity, is that we (the readers) did not know what was in that coffin at the time.

**After watching your theory again, you make some strong points. But you have to remember that this is a Manga. He wanted people to think that Tobi really was Madara in the beginning. Obviously i awell think that Madara had something to do with Obito turning out the way he did, but i don't think that he was directly controlling Obito.

From my point of view Obito was:

Trained by Madara, in various arts of combat.
Madara rescued Obito, but he also implanted his chakra rods into him when he fixed his body.
Madara probably told Obito his story, making it easier for him to fake his identity, and appear to be Madara.

So basically, from what i understand, a lot of your evidence, when Obito talks as if he is really Madara, that was because of the plot. The creator wanted us to think that Tobi really was Madara Uchiha. Remember, this is just a Manga and you can't read into it this much. However, if your theory turns out to be true, i will + rep you every chance i get, because this theory is a longshot xD

 

[scorezor]

I understand your point, but i disagree (I watched your YT video on the theory).

Here is why i disagree

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Look at what he says. Both you and Obito underestimated Madara's plan. If Tobi was really Madara controlling Obito, why would he say that?
Personally, i think it has something to do with this

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You see the black rods? I think that thouse rods containing Madara's will (His ideals) Slowly made Obito more and more like Madara in many ways. That might be why Madara said this

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Also, if Madara really was controlling Obito, why would he say this?

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He never considered himself an ally? I don't know man.

It's a cool, well thought out theory, but i think that you're looking too much into it. The moments when Tobi spoke with Kabuto, Konan and the Kages, calling himself Madara...I think the reason as to why he continued to refer to himself as Madara even after Kabuto found out his identity, is that we (the readers) did not know what was in that coffin at the time.

**After watching your theory again, you make some strong points. But you have to remember that this is a Manga. He wanted people to think that Tobi really was Madara in the beginning. Obviously i awell think that Madara had something to do with Obito turning out the way he did, but i don't think that he was directly controlling Obito.

From my point of view Obito was:

Trained by Madara, in various arts of combat.
Madara rescued Obito, but he also implanted his chakra rods into him when he fixed his body.
Madara probably told Obito his story, making it easier for him to fake his identity, and appear to be Madara.

So basically, from what i understand, a lot of your evidence, when Obito talks as if he is really Madara, that was because of the plot. The creator wanted us to think that Tobi really was Madara Uchiha. Remember, this is just a Manga and you can't read into it this much. However, if your theory turns out to be true, i will + rep you every chance i get, because this theory is a longshot xD

you can disagree all you want , it's a fact.

 

[Mattek2008]

you can disagree all you want , it's a fact.

Unless its confirmed directly by kishi himself, it isnt

 

[scorezor]

Unless its confirmed directly by kishi himself, it isnt

it was already confirmed by kishi :| and if you ask where , go read the shippuden part of the series .....

 

[Xāvî1]

Awesome prediction