This episode is CERTIFIED CANON

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Let me just say one thing that most people don't bother to understand.

The first part of the fight, where Sasuke was giving Naruto dem hands... It was Sharinnegan Sasuke vs base Naruto and Naruto was still dealing damage.
When Naruto goes Rikudo sage mode, things even out until Sasuke takes the chakra from all bijuus in which case he has the advantage again.
Until Naruto uses sage mode to even it out again.

All in all a fantastic fight and I wouldn't mind this being canon.

I think that rikudou Naruto was easily dealing with full power Sasuke (without the bijuus), the attacks are blocked with one tail or two tails, Kirin seems like nothing, serious Naruto would have destroyed this Susano'o, it wasn't even at that point.
I agree that Sasuke+9 bijuus=Naruto+1/2 Kurama.
Great fight.
 
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I just got done watching this fight. I am a Naruto fan who has always been a fan since I could relate to him more. Lately I have been sick of his character. Cause he seems to have become boring. In this fight though I loved every inch of him. I always said part 2 Naruto is my most favorite look of Naruto. In this one he looks his best.

Sasuke is another character who I started disliking for a while but in this fight he made the fight highly interesting. I have to say no matter which fan you are this fight reflects everything good about Naruto. I can finally say that this fight has surpassed Goku VS Vegeta by a landslide. Simply because of what it means to each character. Thank you Naruto for once again telling me why I loved you in the first place.

Hey! You are saying what I felt about Naruto in this fight. I was watching Sasuke fight him and I watched this with my friend...then Naruto just fistbumped Kurama and gave him that look. We were both affected by it. She and I were talking about how Kakashi was right that whenever you see Naruto struggling you just want to help him out. That's how I felt about it. Naruto is just great.
 

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This episode was lit. Its funny Sasuke suppose to lose this fight but he was better. XD.
 

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It is canon that Sasuke without the tailed beast chakra would be doomed. Anyway, good fight and I take it as canon, even the extra moves.

One thing important to notice is that Sasuke going all out, releasing is whole frustration wasn't enough to put Naruto down and that was probably Naruto intention from the go. He took all of Sasuke hatred, basically Naruto served as a Therapist in the form of a punching bag. :)

Perfect analysis. Naruto's wisdom is legendary. He intentionally let Sasuke go all psycho on him,and did just the necessary not to kill Sasuke
 

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Sasuke did what he would be able to do, so no problem
 

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Was this even necessary? Very immature and childish. You also spelled illiterate wrongly ...

F*ck me, I did.

Huh.

Point stands. If he had to make me repeat my entire post without regarding my argument even slightly, I won't hesitate on snapping. Try and shame me all you want but I won't back down if someone calls out on my occasional bullshit.
 
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Guntah becomes insecure when people dissect his absurd arguments.

I do not recall you, but it sure looks like I made you very pissy at some point.
 
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Alright, this is pretty stupid, but I'll get back onto this.

Sasuke was not there to see anything he was with hashi.He was still on way after madara absorbed bijuus in mezo and clashed with tobirama [ ]

Again, unsurprisingly, you ignore what I said. But I'll repeat. I said leaving.

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So lets look at the facts.
1, He knows about the Outer Path.
2. He knows the Bijuu were inside the Gedo Mazo.
3. He knows Madara was in the possession of the Gedo Mazo.
4. He knows Madara became a Juubi Jinchuuriki.
5. Presumably, he knows the Gedo Mazo was used by the Akatsuki to suck up the Bijuu seeing as he spent a period of time working under the Akatsuki

From there on, even if you discard the fifth argument, its basically a case of putting it all together to figure out where the Bijuu went while he was "dead".

in case of dojutsu you only need to be familiar with the jutsu or It'll evantually come to you naturally and evolve with time

And you have just agreed with what i was trying to prove all along. All the user needs is to be familiar with the jutsu or else it develops naturally, right? Well, Sasuke was familiar with the jutsu from his fight with Madara and Kaguya, thus he used them. Argument finished, I guess?

Though I feel like pointing out something regarding the latter part.

That being Nagato, who held the RInnegan for almost the entirety of his life without discovering the use of Limbo Hengoku, his eyes' most powerful technique. The closest of an explanation that was ever given to this was the idea that Madara couldn't use it in Edo, thus needing his true pair to use it. Its possible that the technique is only revealed to the true user of the true pair, but in the end that is nothing more than speculation.
 
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Alright, this is pretty stupid, but I'll get back onto this.
Again, unsurprisingly, you ignore what I said. But I'll repeat. I said leaving.

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What kind of half assed stupidity is this.It is not even outer path.Makes a whole point based on his dumb assumptions.
So lets look at the facts.
I can do the same assumption that you are terming as facts
1, He knows about the Outer Path.
He knows about deva path and six path powers
2. He knows the Bijuu were inside the Gedo Mazo.
He knows gravity manipulation and has already used 3 paths
3. He knows Madara was in the possession of the Gedo Mazo.
He has people tell him all about six path powers
4. He knows Madara became a Juubi Jinchuuriki.
He has already performed the strongest of six path powers
5. Presumably, he knows the Gedo Mazo was used by the Akatsuki to suck up the Bijuu seeing as he spent a period of time working under the Akatsuki
and that gives knowledge about Gedo Path of Rinnegan when pain nvr met him and was already dead later on :lol
From there on, even if you discard the fifth argument, its basically a case of putting it all together to figure out where the Bijuu went while he was "dead".
Argument Nope.Half assed assumption.Sasuke nvr saw madara sealing bijuu's that was the point but but realisng you were wrong you backtracked and brought crappy assumptions to fit you BS fanfic
And you have just agreed with what i was trying to prove all along. All the user needs is to be familiar with the jutsu or else it develops naturally, right? Well, Sasuke was familiar with the jutsu from his fight with Madara and Kaguya, thus he used them. Argument finished, I guess?
Sasuke was nvr familiar with Gedo path
Though I feel like pointing out something regarding the latter part.
That being Nagato, who held the RInnegan for almost the entirety of his life without discovering the use of Limbo Hengoku, his eyes' most powerful technique.
looks like some one does not read the manga :lol
The closest of an explanation that was ever given to this was the idea that Madara couldn't use it in Edo, thus needing his true pair to use it. Its possible that the technique is only revealed to the true user of the true pair, but in the end that is nothing more than speculation.
Obito clarified this [ ]

only owner can reach the true potential of dojutsu stated by Obito who could use the six path powers but chose not to stated by both gai and kakashi [ ]
 
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I do not recall you

Hmmm...well maybe...and this is just a guess... that's because I don't go into multiple threads *****ing and moaning, all up in my feelings about irrelevant shit...unlike some people. :lol

, but it sure looks like I made you very pissy at some point.

Or maybe I just found it hilarious that you felt the need to insult Blazing just because you can't debate for shit...but whatever helps you sleep at night my simple-minded friend. :coffee:

OT - I agree
 

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Guntah's already been mortally wounded, guys. Have mercy on him. The salt emanating from his body only makes it more painful, I think that's punishment enough for him.

We should leave him be and pray for him. SP really hurt his feelings.
 

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What kind of half assed stupidity is this.It is not even outer path.Makes a whole point based on his dumb assumptions.I can do the same assumption that you are terming as facts
He knows about deva path and six path powersHe knows gravity manipulation and has already used 3 paths

Well, I actually tried to re approach this calmly, but we'll go right back to name calling again, huh? Alright, I'll be the bigger man and let it slide. First off, that is completely and totally irrelevant wether its Outer Path or not. Sasuke already knows the basic workings of the Outer Path, that is him learning the Gedo Mazo's purpose, allowing him to later copy it with his SUsanoo. That's what the whole argument is about, remember?

Secondly, no that is an assumption. He does know gravity manipulation and used three paths, but as I already proved for two of them and am trying to prove for the third, he is simply "Mokey see, Mokey do"ing Madara. Well, not proved, but made out to be a valid theory anyway.

He has people tell him all about six path powers

Alright. Why would people tell him about the six paths powers?

He has already performed the strongest of six path powers

Again, irrelevant. He may have mastered Deva Path for all I care, but that speaks naught for the skills he has with the remaining ones.

and that gives knowledge about Gedo Path of Rinnegan when pain was already dead :lol

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If Sasuke doesn't know about the Gedo Path, I do wonder what the hell he thought Naruto was talking about here.

Argument Nope.Half assed assumption.Sasuke nvr saw madara sealing bijuu's that was the point but but realisng you were wrong you backtracked and brought crappy assumptions to fit you BS fanfic

At least point to the right culprit. Its not MY BS fanfic, its Kishimoto's BS fanfic.

Sasuke was nvr familiar with Gedo path looks like some one does not read the manga :lol

That I will not touch upon. Refer to the image above, concealed safely inside a spoiler....thing.
Obito clarified this [ ]

Well...fair enough, I guess that is clear enough to infer as Limbo being its true potential. My bad.
only owner can reach the true potential of dojutsu stated by Obito who could use the six path powers but chose not to stated by both gai and kakashi [ ][/QUOTE]
 

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Well, I actually tried to re approach this calmly, but we'll go right back to name calling again, huh?
stupidity=name calling
what r u
Alright, I'll be the bigger man and let it slide. First off, that is completely and totally irrelevant wether its Outer Path or not.
What the hell.Only relevant thing is that it is not outer path
Sasuke already knows the basic workings of the Outer Path, that is him learning the Gedo Mazo's purpose, allowing him to later copy it with his SUsanoo. That's what the whole argument is about, remember?
Him knowing purpose magically grants him knowledge of seal for using Outer path damn
Secondly, no that is an assumption. He does know gravity manipulation and used three paths, but as I already proved for two of them and am trying to prove for the third, he is simply "Mokey see, Mokey do"ing Madara. Well, not proved, but made out to be a valid theory anyway.
You haven't and you can't since sasuke nvr saw gedo path
Alright. Why would people tell him about the six paths powers?
Why won't they.He has the Rinnegan is allied with their village
Him knowing about the path is only gonna help them


Again, irrelevant. He may have mastered Deva Path for all I care, but that speaks naught for the skills he has with the remaining ones.
Yeah mastered the strongest Jutsu of strongest path within hrs of getting Rinnegam why should u care and you are still talking about so called skills :lol


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If Sasuke doesn't know about the Gedo Path, I do wonder what the hell he thought Naruto was talking about here.

Wow Mr do not read the manga

Naruto: Obito did not use Outer path he used jutsu to become jin of Juubi
Sasuke: i see


Guntah: that was outer path yes that was outer path.Sasuke knows about it yeah

Me: :|


At least point to the right culprit. Its not MY BS fanfic, its Kishimoto's BS fanfic.
lol this guy
 
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stupidity=name calling
what r u

Name calling being by definition any abusive or insulting language referring to a person or group, of course. But we can put the whole outer path aside and discuss that if you want

What the hell.Only relevant thing is that it is not outer path

Not really. It was not Outer Path, but Sasuke learned through the situation what Outer Path does. That being, in its main part, revive someone, which Naruto clearly told him after Obito proved to be doing something else entirely.

Him knowing purpose magically grants him knowledge of seal for using Outer path damn

I don't know. Shall we quote an expert?

in case of dojutsu you only need to be familiar with the jutsu or It'll evantually come to you naturally and evolve with time

You haven't and you can't since sasuke nvr saw gedo path

Again, completely irrelevant. He does not need to see something to know what it is.

Why won't they.He has the Rinnegan is allied with their village
Him knowing about the path is only gonna help them

Possibly, but Sasuke really has never shown canonically any interest on learning further and mastering the Rinnegan after the war has ended, to the point where we currently have no solid proof of his full use of the Six Paths being gained after the war despite having the entirety of Boruto and Naruto Gaiden of screentime with him. The only thing we know he's learned is his portal jutsu, which is practically necessary for what he was trying to do anyway.


Yeah mastered the strongest Jutsu of strongest path within hrs of getting Rinnegam why should u care and you are still talking about so called skills :lol

Whatever you say.

Wow Mr do not read the manga

Naruto: Obito did not use Outer path he used jutsu to become jin of Juubi
Sasuke: i see


Guntah: that was outer path yes that was outer path.Sasuke knows about it yeah

Me: :|

lol this guy

Actually, no. You're misquoting me. A more accurate representation would be.

Naruto: Obito did not use the six paths ressurection jutsuhe used jutsu to become jin of Juubi
Sasuke: i see

Me: See, Sasuke knows what Outer Path does.
You: That was not Outer Path.
Me: Yeah, but Naruto just told him, its a reincarnation juts-
You: That was not Outer Path
 

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Name calling being by definition any abusive or insulting language referring to a person or group, of course. But we can put the whole outer path aside and discuss that if you want
calling stupid assumption stupidity is not name calling

Not really. It was not Outer Path, but Sasuke learned through the situation what Outer Path does. That being, in its main part, revive someone, which Naruto clearly told him after Obito proved to be doing something else entirely.
Revive people :lmao: that eqauls turning susanoo into gedo

I don't know. Shall we quote an expert?
Yes that means sauce learnt it naturally.Ty for accepting it

Again, completely irrelevant. He does not need to see something to know what it is.
:lol yes he does.You are trying to imply sauce is an ultimate genius who somehow find out about gedo path on his own but cannot use other paths :lol Logic Rest in pieces

Possibly, but Sasuke really has never shown canonically any interest on learning further and mastering the Rinnegan
he has never said he won't learn them

after the war has ended, to the point where we currently have no solid proof of his full use of the Six Paths being gained after the war despite having the entirety of Boruto and Naruto Gaiden of screentime with him. The only thing we know he's learned is his portal jutsu, which is practically necessary for what he was trying to do anyway.
Then again it is entirealy one sided assumption.Not use does not mean can't use.During Gaiden he could not use dojutsu to full potential due to Dimension travelling

Me: See, Sasuke knows what Outer Path does.
no that means sasuke understood it was not So6p's ressuretion jutsu but a jutsu to become JJ
gedo path was not mentioned
 
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calling stupid assumption stupidity is not name calling

If you say so.

Revive people :lmao: that eqauls turning susanoo into gedo

Alright, I'll tryi to make the point I'm trying to make a bit clearer.

Sasuke first learned about the outer path from the experience with Obito's faux use of it.

Sasuke learned about the way the Bijuu are stored inside the Gedo Mazo via various situations.

His knowledge of the Outer Path was expanded throughout the rest of the war. (EG: Seeing Hashirama and Tobirama paralyzed by black transmiters and removing the latter's own transmiters once he got his Rinnegan, even the whole idea of the Juubi being fused and split again into one entity. Actually, especially that.)

By seeing the Bijuu leaving the Gedo Mazo he was able to reverse engineer the process when time came and absorbed the Bijuu's chakra into his Susanoo.

Yes that means sauce learnt it naturally.Ty for accepting it

Yes, he probably can.

Thing is he didn't .

:lol yes he does.You are trying to imply sauce is an ultimate genius who somehow find out about gedo path on his own but cannot use other paths :lol Logic Rest in pieces

The exact poiny of this entire argument is that he did not find Gedo Path on his own, he just copied it fro-m what he saw.

he has never said he won't learn them

In the same vein he has never said he will. Or that he knows about them. And is any interested in knowing. Sasuke really hasn't paid much attention to what his Rinnegan CAN do since he got it, so we really don'y know what he did with it.

Then again it is entirealy one sided assumption.Not use does not mean can't use.During Gaiden he could not use dojutsu to full potential due to Dimension travelling

I know. Thus we don't know wether he can use them or not, and until we do, it really can't be used as much proof of anything.

no that means sasuke understood it was not So6p's ressuretion jutsu but a jutsu to become JJ
gedo path was not mentioned

The ressurection jutsu is Outer Path though. Its main use, anyway.
 

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Alright, I'll tryi to make the point I'm trying to make a bit clearer.
Sasuke first learned about the outer path from the experience with Obito's faux use of it.Sasuke learned about the way the Bijuu are stored inside the Gedo Mazo via various situationsHis knowledge of the Outer Path was expanded throughout the rest of the war..
Again trying to imply sasuke is some ultimate genius who found al about Gedo path on his own while at same time saying he can't use six path powers :lol
(EG: Seeing Hashirama and Tobirama paralyzed by black transmiters and removing the latter's own transmiters once he got his Rinnegan, even the whole idea of the Juubi being fused and split again into one entity. Actually, especially that.)
Where was it stated that Black rods are outer path powers.
By seeing the Bijuu leaving the Gedo Mazo he was able to reverse engineer the process when time came and absorbed the Bijuu's chakra into his Susanoo.
You don't even realise what are you saying do you
Sasuke did reverse of what of what hagoromo did [ ]
hagoromo tore of Juubi from gedo to create 9 bijuus.Sasuke mixed them to replicate gedo

It is literally nothing to do with see Bijuus escaping Gedo mezo after Six Path CT.They have nothing to do with Rinnegan's outer path


Yes, he probably can.

Thing is he didn't .
This guy



The exact poiny of this entire argument is that he did not find Gedo Path on his own, he just copied it fro-m what he saw.
Based on your assumption that does not make even a little bit sense


In the same vein he has never said he will. Or that he knows about them. And is any interested in knowing. Sasuke really hasn't paid much attention to what his Rinnegan CAN do since he got it, so we really don'y know what he did with it.
Still somehow learn dimension travel :lol
Tell me is this not stupidity


I know. Thus we don't know wether he can use them or not, and until we do, it really can't be used as much proof of anything.

Yes and Genjutsu one shots Naruto.Good Luck with that

The ressurection jutsu is Outer Path though. Its main use, anyway.
And did some magic fairy told that to sasuke.Again the point is nothing about Bijuu/Gedo mezo/Susanoo
 

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Again trying to imply sasuke is some ultimate genius who found al about Gedo path on his own while at same time saying he can't use six path powers :lol

Not o his own..but at this point I'm just repeating myself.

Where was it stated that Black rods are outer path powers.
You don't even realise what are you saying do you
Sasuke did reverse of what of what hagoromo did [ ]
hagoromo tore of Juubi from gedo to create 9 bijuus.Sasuke mixed them to replicate gedo

Well, I believe it was a databook info, but looking back, I suppose that is far from a confident source, so I'll push that aside.

Still, the Hagoromo thing does indeed seem to have something going for it. At least since you seem to be willing to agree that Sasuke is familiar with what happened. True, he was doing the exact opposite of what Hagoromo did, but that just means he was doing the same as Madara did. Joining all Bijuu into a vessel for their combined power. Are we agreed on that much?


Awesome, am I not?

Based on your assumption that does not make even a little bit sense

You know, curiously, that is the exact way I feel about the stance that you're taking. You know, the whole "Sasuke can learn just by knowing, but since he didn't know, he learned all by himself" thing....I think.


Still somehow learn dimension travel :lol
Tell me is this not stupidity

Unlike the Six Paths though, that was something Sasuke was required to have if he was to investigate into Kaguya's whereabouts.

Yes and Genjutsu one shots Naruto.Good Luck with that

Okay.....

I'm lost. You lost me.


And did some magic fairy told that to sasuke.Again the point is nothing about Bijuu/Gedo mezo/Susanoo

Just replicated what Madara did with his Susanoo as the Gedo. Don't know what's so hard to understand about this.
 

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Not o his own..but at this point I'm just repeating myself.

The bullshit fanfics yeah

Well, I believe it was a databook info, but looking back, I suppose that is far from a confident source, so I'll push that aside.
DB only said it is Rinnegans symbolic jutsu nothing else
Still, the Hagoromo thing does indeed seem to have something going for it. At least since you seem to be willing to agree that Sasuke is familiar with what happened. True, he was doing the exact opposite of what Hagoromo did, but that just means he was doing the same as Madara did. Joining all Bijuu into a vessel for their combined power. Are we agreed on that much?

repeatedly comparing something that has nothing to do with Rinnegan to Rinnegan
repeatedly bringing madara when sauce never witnessed anything

At least changed his explanation 4 times.Not going to take you seriously anymore



Awesome, am I not?

No u r the guy who does not now diff between Limbo and Shinra Tensei :lol

You know, curiously, that is the exact way I feel about the stance that you're taking. You know, the whole "Sasuke can learn just by knowing, but since he didn't know, he learned all by himself" thing....I think.
knows about CT uses it
knows about preta uses it

no one taught him those



Unlike the Six Paths though, that was something Sasuke was required to have if he was to investigate into Kaguya's whereabouts.

And he won't learn new jutsu to fend of against the danger that worried Kaguya

yes this is stupidity :lol


Just replicated what Madara did with his Susanoo as the Gedo. Don't know what's so hard to understand about this.
What the hell are u smoking.Go read the manga
 
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