This episode is CERTIFIED CANON

[Guntah]

You are dumb aren't you.There is a reason sasuke cannot copy Rasengan as it does not have handseal.preta does not have hand seals so how the hell did sasuke copied it.Madara used CT cores first then CT while sasuke use was more similiar to that of Six Path CT
Sharingan copies hand seals of jutsu not and movement of body

It does not copy jutsu[bar taijutsu]

You illitirate bastard. Did you reply to my last post without reading it at all?

I'll repeat.

That is not what I mean.

What I mean is seeing it being done and mimicking with his own skills. I'm not saying that he copied the jutsu with his Sharingan and reused them, I'm saying he saw Madara do them and tried it himself. Thus the two jutsu we saw him use in VOTE are the two jutsu Sasuke saw Madara (And in one case, Kaguya) use.

Oh wow by that logic Sasuke got Amenotejikara from oh wait its six path justsu so it does not matter huh :lol

And I'm not even gonna get into that.

 

[StanOG]

Are you new to the base?

Cause this is there way of keeping the base alive. I doubt any of them are serious when they argue over the samething for many years.

No Im not new I've just been a lurker for years lol. It blows my mind how some of these people think. It cracks me up how they care more about who beats who rather than what they've been watching/reading for 4+ years

 

[BLAZE]

You illitirate bastard. Did you reply to my last post without reading it at all?

Oh wow :|

What I mean is seeing it being done and mimicking with his own skills. I'm not saying that he copied the jutsu with his Sharingan and reused them, I'm saying he saw Madara do them and tried it himself. Thus the two jutsu we saw him use in VOTE are the two jutsu Sasuke saw Madara (And in one case, Kaguya) use.

Then madara must have shown him outer path too oh wait

And I'm not even gonna get into that.

Exactly you won't becoz Tantalus Thief made it pretty clear how it worked.

Your logic is no one taught/showed naruto and kurama how to break genjutsu and they haven't shown doing it thus they can't despite being PJ

 

[King Of Pop]

Because Sasuke never absorbed the chakra nor did he merge it with PS as he did with Jugo's Senjutsu. Those are also Rinnegan techs. They are restricted to Rinnegan. Susanoo can be used without the eyes altogether. It makes no sense for Rinnegan Jutsus to be magically enhanced by non-Rinnegan Jutsus, especially chakra constructs.

As far as Chidori goes, then PS doesn't create chakra, it channels it from Sasuke. Sasuke is simply pouring out more Chakra for PS' Chidori. That is why he was able to take out the meteor as well. Chidori has no co-relation to PS either.

i agree on the ameno part but as for the chidori i think its fair to say that it was that powerful because sasuke was using it through ps in the same way ps sword slashes are far more powerful than say, v3 swords. i doubt sasuke at that point in time can put out a chidori on par with a bijjudama no matter how much chakra he pours. the reason it was that level should be because he is chanelling it through perfect soosano.

 

[shelke]

You illitirate bastard. Did you reply to my last post without reading it at all?

I'll repeat.

That is not what I mean.

What I mean is seeing it being done and mimicking with his own skills. I'm not saying that he copied the jutsu with his Sharingan and reused them, I'm saying he saw Madara do them and tried it himself. Thus the two jutsu we saw him use in VOTE are the two jutsu Sasuke saw Madara (And in one case, Kaguya) use.

And I'm not even gonna get into that.

Was this even necessary? Very immature and childish. You also spelled illiterate wrongly ...

 

[shelke]

i agree on the ameno part but as for the chidori i think its fair to say that it was that powerful because sasuke was using it through ps in the same way ps sword slashes are far more powerful than say, v3 swords. i doubt sasuke at that point in time can put out a chidori on par with a bijjudama no matter how much chakra he pours. the reason it was that level should be because he is chanelling it through perfect soosano.

Momentum is definitely something I will completely agree on. PS has 5 layers of mountainous muscles. There is no way Sasuke can replicate that. No way. Therefore, the stab will have far more force behind it through PS than Sasuke himself. But, that was not my point. My point was that Sasuke can put out the same amount of chakra without the PS, as PS doesn't aid or facilitate him in any manner with Chidori. It's a chakra construct that is literally a manifestation of his chakra. It cannot accomplish anything beyond Sasuke, which is why it instantly loses shape and form when the user is low on chakra. It's a literally a conduit.

 

[Guntah]

Then madara must have shown him outer path too oh wait

No, not Madara. Well, not directly, at least. But he did have an experience to learn what the Outer Path was and how it worked.

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Exactly you won't becoz Tantalus Thief made it pretty clear how it worked.

Your logic is no one taught/showed naruto and kurama how to break genjutsu and they haven't shown doing it thus they can't despite being PJ

I actually made an argument against his post and am waiting on his reply.

As for your example....hmmm, I don't think so.

You're arguing that Kurama can't hit Naruto in his head or channel chalra to his body while I am arguing that by canon feats Sasuke cannot use an ability that, while he could learn, he has never used, mentioned or showed any signs of attempting to learn.

 

[BLAZE]

No, not Madara. Well, not directly, at least. But he did have an experience to learn what the Outer Path was and how it worked.

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Edit: sasuke didn't even knew what obito did there or is it even a path jutsu

You're arguing that Kurama can't hit Naruto in his head or channel chalra to his body while I am arguing that by canon feats Sasuke cannot use an ability that, while he could learn, he has never used, mentioned or showed any signs of attempting to learn.

Exactly and you are arguing sasuke cannont use a jutsu that is granted to him by Rinnegan [

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1.its written on uchiha table
2.His wife;his bet friend and his teacher all are familiar with it
3.Despite the fact he already has use the strongest jutsu among Six paths

 

[Guntah]

Sasuke wasn't even there and then you are comparing Rinne Tensei to taing out bijuu chakra

its like saying performed bansho tenin becoz he saw madara performing Chibaku tensi

Actually, yes he was there. In fact, he was the first one to try and take down Obito.

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And it being or not being Rinne Tensei doesn't matter. What DOES matter is that people thought it was Rinne Tensei, allowing Sasuke, through that experience, to learn about what the Outer Path was capable of.

Exactly and you are arguing sasuk cannont use a jutsu that is granted to him by Rinnegan [

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[lndra]

the episode was great

 

[Illuminater]

Wow sasuke shot a susanoo arrow at obito and he deflected it with rinnegan rods? I never knew that happened




Anyways this fight is not canon. There is such thing called filler. What happened in the manga is what happened. What happened in the anime is filler made by the animators.

Sorry but you can't really change that unless you have proof that Kishimoto considers it canon. I guess Ashura had rasengan and indra had amaterasu right? Lmaooo

 

[BLAZE]

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Edited my post there

I don't see why how to use such jutsu of all things would be written on the Uchiha tablet,

madara at old age learned all the justu so it must be there

I do not see why you'd assume his wife, friend or teacher would mention this specific detail to him at any given point

Since he has the Rinnegan

and I don't see why him knowing the strongest jutsu of the Six Paths means he should know every jutsu pertaining to the Six Paths.

since if he can perform strongest jutsu not that hard to perform less stronger ones

 

[shelke]

Wow sasuke shot a susanoo arrow at obito and he deflected it with rinnegan rods? I never knew that happened




Anyways this fight is not canon. There is such thing called filler. What happened in the manga is what happened. What happened in the anime is filler made by the animators.

Sorry but you can't really change that unless you have proof that Kishimoto considers it canon. I guess Ashura had rasengan and indra had amaterasu right? Lmaooo

The entire fight isn't filler.

 

[Guntah]

Edited my post there

That really doesn't change my point in the slightest. Though yes, Sasuke was told by Naruto it was a ressurection jutsu afterwards.

madara at old age learned all the justu so it must be there

Seeing as Nagato didn't have a tablet to work with and still got as far as he did, I don't think that is a big necessity...more of an assumption, if anything.

Since he has the Rinnegan

........and?

since if he can perform strongest jutsu not that hard to perform less stronger ones

Well, its not a matter of him being able or not, its more of a matter of him even knowing those jutsu exist for him to use them to begin with. Or even of him being interested to learn those at all.

 

[BLAZE]

That really doesn't change my point in the slightest. Though yes, Sasuke was told by Naruto it was a ressurection jutsu afterwards.

how so what sauce did was similiar to Gedo mezo storing Bijuu on other hand what obito did was becoming JJ

Seeing as Nagato didn't have a tablet to work with and still got as far as he did, I don't think that is a big necessity...more of an assumption, if anything.

Obito already said he will teach him.We don't know if nagato came there or not.Obviously did after Yahiko's death

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Well, its not a matter of him being able or not, its more of a matter of him even knowing those jutsu exist for him to use them to begin with. Or even of him being interested to learn those at all.

lol he is travelling dimensions in search of threats lol

 

[Guntah]

how so what sauce did was similiar to Gedo mezo storing Bijuu on other hand what obito did was becoming JJ

Well, that was his introduction to the Outer Path. Then there is the whole idea of Madara trapping Bijuu inside the Gedo Mazo, and he just replicated that. Kurama said so himself.

Obito already said he will teach him.We don't know if nagato came there or not.Obviously did after Yahiko's death

The only way I could see it happening was if Black Zetsu ended up teaching him since Obito more than likely didn't know about the true story of the tablet seeing as he didn't seem to recognise Kaguya.

lol he is travelling dimensions in search of threats lol

Yep. No time for training there.

 

[BLAZE]

Well, that was his introduction to the Outer Path. Then there is the whole idea of Madara trapping Bijuu inside the Gedo Mazo, and he just replicated that. Kurama said so himself.

sasuke came there later on.He was with hashirama atm

The only way I could see it happening was if Black Zetsu ended up teaching him since Obito more than likely didn't know about the true story of the tablet seeing as he didn't seem to recognise Kaguya.

what madara taught obito about six path powers

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Yep. No time for training there.

You don't need to train to use them

 

[shelke]

Madara taught Obito the forbidden Kinjutsus and other things he read from the tablet. What are you guys even talking about?

Edit: Damn, Blazing beat me to it.

 

[Guntah]

sasuke came there later on.He was with hashirama atm

I would be surprised if Sasuke didn't put everything together and realized that Madara sucked the Bijuu up into the statue. Hell, he even saw them leaving.

what madara taught obito about six path powers

How. Obito doesn't have a Rinnegan to even learn it. Hell, Madara himself barely used those.

You don't need to train to use them

Then what the hell would Tobi teach Nagato?

This argument makes no sense....

 

[BLAZE]

I would be surprised if Sasuke didn't put everything together and realized that Madara sucked the Bijuu up into the statue. Hell, he even saw them leaving.

Sasuke was not there to see anything he was with hashi.He was still on way after madara absorbed bijuus in mezo and clashed with tobirama [

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How. Obito doesn't have a Rinnegan to even learn it. Hell, Madara himself barely used those.
Then what the hell would Tobi teach Nagato?
This argument makes no sense....

in case of dojutsu you only need to be familiar with the jutsu or It'll evantually come to you naturally and evolve with time