[VS] this chapter proved that Hinata > Sakura

[shelke]

Sakura can only summon after three years of chakra hoarding. You guys know that, right? Anyhow, I am not implying Hinata wins as her close ranged 64 palms were pathetic compared to Neji who can use Byakugan moves from quite a distant away and he could do this at Genin level. As I have always said before; Hinata is inferior to Sakura. It's a fact people should accept.

 

[phylos]

Sakura can only summon after three years of chakra hoarding. You guys know that, right?

Hmmm... no? Hell, Sasuke could summon Manda while exhausted. Nowhere it said that she had needed the seal to summon the Slug, she was talking about using the seal to heal everyone.

 

[Zexion~]

No .. The slug is literally the only thing that gives sakura the victory ..IMO .. Gentle fist counters strength and medical ninjutsu .. Meanwhile Hinata was able to keep up with a part one Neji .. Who was just as fast as current Sakura if not faster ..if sakura wanted to use that crater punch of hers.. Hinata would simply air palm her out of the sky ..

 

[phylos]

Hinata would simply air palm her out of the sky ..

Air palm her out of the sky... to where? A void?

Do people even read what they write in here?

 

[Turson]

Sakura can only summon after three years of chakra hoarding. You guys know that, right?

Hmm... but as for now she didnt even open her seal. IMO, her current strenght comes from the fact that she doesnt have to divide her chakra anymore. But then again, her seal could work in completely different way than Tsunades. I guess we have to wait and see. Either way, Sakura stomps.

 

[Zexion~]

Air palm her out of the sky... to where? A void?

Do people even read what they write in here?

........ Apparently people can not use logic Air palm her in the sky .. interupting her punch meaning she would end up on the ground .. If she can recover in mid-air back on her feet .. if not on her ass .. which she then proceeds to get slammed with this

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although she most likely would recover mid-air .. the punch is negated

 

[shelke]

Hmmm... no? Hell, Sasuke could summon Manda while exhausted. Nowhere it said that she had needed the seal to summon the Slug, she was talking about using the seal to heal everyone.

Yes? Which is why she hasn't been able to Summon through out the manga? The seal stores chakra and as you can see, her punches have become more powerful as they require chakra control and usage as well. Her strength is chakra enhanced. The more chakra she invests, the more powerful her punches her, evident from her current performance.

@Turson She is using the stored chakra at the moment, which explains her enhanced strength right after the storage was completed. Sakura had extremely low chakra reserves since the very start, which is WHY she had good chakra control. If you remember way back, Kakashi commented on this.

 

[phylos]

........ Apparently people can not use logic Air palm her in the sky .. interupting her punch meaning she would end up on the ground .. If she can recover in mid-air back on her feet .. if not on her ass .. which she then proceeds to get slammed with this although she most likely would recover mid-air .. the punch is negated

No, you said "air palm her out of the sky" and I was just commenting on the nonsensical phrasing, not on the point you were trying to make per se.
I won't even comment on the speculation you're trying to pass as "logic" (<-which is also awkward phrasing). Life is too short.

Yes? Which is why she hasn't been able to Summon through out the manga? The seal stores chakra and as you can see, her punches have become more powerful as they require chakra control and usage as well. Her strength is chakra enhanced. The more chakra she invests, the more powerful her punches her, evident from her current performance.

The highlihgted part is the "correlation means causation" fallacy, try harder.

Everything else... has nothing to do with anything I said. I actually agree with you on that. :|

 

[Zexion~]

No, you said "air palm her out of the sky" and I was just commenting on the nonsensical phrasing, not on the point you were trying to make per se.
I won't even comment on the speculation you're trying to pass as "logic" (<-which is also awkward phrasing). Life is too short.

..As in when people hypothetically say "Shoot him out of the sky" .. If you could not get that , it is your on fault

 

[ObitoKarin]

loling hard at Sakura fanboys
how can she counter 64 palms?
oops she can't counter it
and that slug is not offensive
it can heal but if Hinata touches Sakura's forehead it's over

Lol, I agree that Hinata showed some speed, But if Hinata made a slip-up Sakura would win. All she needs is open opening now for the ground in Hinata's area to knock her around, probably even kill her. Pain wouldn't have been fast compared to her yet he killed her, despite his cheating pulls and pushes lol. AND the diamond does increase her speed like super, probably faster since she doesn't have to hide her age. Hinata would get Sakura is she didn't have any openings, but like I said; One slip up could mean death for her...

 

[Turson]

@Turson She is using the stored chakra at the moment, which explains her enhanced strength right after the storage was completed.

Like I said, that can also be explained by the fact that she doesnt have to devide her chakra anymore. She just created her seal, but not opened it. If her seal works the same way as Tsunades, she didnt even use her storaged chakra. But like I said, we have to wait and see.

 

[shelke]

The highlihgted part is the "correlation means causation" fallacy, try harder.

Everything else... has nothing to do with anything I said. I actually agree with you on that.

You are a funny fella, since she almost died against Sasori, didn't manage to contribute much to the war in terms of combat up until now, let's not forget Pein's invasion, but she could use a summon without storing Chakra all along? Please...I don't even need to try as this is a weak argument in itself.

 

[shelke]

@Turson The evidence is too strong. Look at her strength now. Has she ever displayed anything along these lines? She even reminiscences about Chakra storage and Shizune confirms it. Yes, we do need to see more but her performance and validation speak for themselves.

 

[phylos]

You are a funny fella, since she almost died against Sasori, didn't manage to contribute much to the war in terms of combat up until now, let's not forget Pein's invasion, but she could use a summon without storing Chakra all along? Please...I don't even need to try as this is a weak argument in itself.

And it is still just the "correlation means causation" fallacy. If your strongest argument is a puny fallacy... It becomes more insulting how in this "VS" threads most people try to pass the mumbo jumbo they say as "logic". Urgh.

For all we know she signed the contract just before the war.
BTW, why would she contribute in terms of combat before? She's a medical ninja.

 

[shelke]

^ And that folks, isn't an assumption that she must have signed a contract? No it's common 'cause and effect' comprehension. Common sense, if anything.

 

[Zexion~]

And it is still just the "correlation means causation" fallacy. If your strongest argument is a puny fallacy... It becomes more insulting how in this "VS" threads most people try to pass the mumbo jumbo they say as "logic". Urgh.

For all we know she signed the contract just before the war.
BTW, why would she contribute in terms of combat before? She's a medical ninja.

You act like you know this place so well .. yet you have been here a month .

 

[phylos]

^ And that folks, isn't an assumption that she must have signed a contract? No it's common 'cause and effect' comprehension. Common sense, if anything.

Ah, you moved from correlation means causation to... what? Trying to ridicule me without bases?

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Mind you, probably the slugs are not a part of the group of life forms that need a contract. Still doesn't mean Sakura couldn't have just learned to summon slugs just before the war.

Regarding assumptions? I know I'm speculating, the problem is that you are speculating too and still trying to pass it as a valid argument that everyone should take for granted.

You act like you know this place so well .. yet you have been here a month .

I've seen the word "logic" being spitted (in every circumstance and regarding any type of discussion) here enough to understand how it rolls.
Not even in my Artificial Intelligence class I heard the word logic used as often as it is used here.
I've been in forums about subjects and media with more depth than Naruto and the word logic isn't used as often as it is used here.
I could keep going but I think I've made my point.

 

[Zexion~]

Ah, you moved from correlation means causation to... what? Trying to ridicule me without bases?

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Mind you, probably the slugs are not a part of the group of life forms that need a contract. Still doesn't mean Sakura couldn't have just learned to summon slugs just before the war.

Regarding assumptions? I know I'm speculating, the problem is that you are speculating too and still trying to pass it as a valid argument that everyone should take for granted.



I've seen the word "logic" being spitted (in every circumstance and regarding any type of discussion) here enough to understand how it rolls.
Not even in my Artificial Intelligence class I heard the word logic used as often as it is used here.
I've been in forums about subjects and media with more depth than Naruto and the word logic isn't used as often as it is used here.
I could keep going but I think I've made my point.

Some people through it around .. others use it the way it is supposed to be used "Reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity" ..

 

[Ender Wiggin]

Stupid....... people are so stupid....

 

[phylos]

Some people through it around .. others use it the way it is supposed to be used "Reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity" ..

You're right and I've seen it too; sadly those people are minority (and yet most of them don't use the word "logic" per se, at least not from what I've seen), hence why I said "most" in my first post on the subject.