[Discussion] Third World War is not out of hand

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Though a system such as the United Nations have been established, I believe that the peace treaty between countries can become fragile after several years. The possible causes could be terrorism, lack of cooperation between states and governments or simply the desire to become a leading world power by greedy countries. Who knows what it could be? The point is that two world wars have happened and the last world war has been resolved through conflict and fear:the atomic bomb. What if the peace we thought of does not actually exist or is feeble. Many believe that a third world war would happen including me. Please point out your thoughts;this is a difficult matter that cannot be solely resolved.
 

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Can we not turn this website into a political debate.
 

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Merica V Russia And people call it a World war lel. No one carez
 

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There is no WWIII.
America, China, and Russia are just playing chess with one another and jockeying for influence and economic advantages. Using smaller countries like chess pieces. Been doing it for decades. This is nothing new. People just over sensationalize every little bit of friction between them.
 

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Though a system such as the United Nations have been established, I believe that the peace treaty between countries can become fragile after several years. The possible causes could be terrorism, lack of cooperation between states and governments or simply the desire to become a leading world power by greedy countries. Who knows what it could be? The point is that two world wars have happened and the last world war has been resolved through conflict and fear:the atomic bomb. What if the peace we thought of does not actually exist or is feeble. Many believe that a third world war would happen including me. Please point out your thoughts;this is a difficult matter that cannot be solely resolved.

Name 5 people....

and nope im optimistic and belive in peace. Some people in the base^^ is turning into Madaras.

Can we not turn this website into a political debate.

This^^^
 

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I'm calling some type of armed conflict between America and Russia in the next five years. For some reason, I see Russia getting away with making a few puppet states around itself for a bit.
 

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There won't be a WWIII the fighting would be so tense it'll skip WWIII and WWIV and go straight to WWV
 

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Im from Russia and tbh our president Vladimir Putin is taking things to far by sending 15.000 soldiers in the Ukraine just so they can have Kiev, US already warned Russia but Putin is quite stubborn and he ain't the type to back off.
 

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Merica V Russia And people call it a World war lel. No one carez

UK are obliged too.

WWs come about in a domino effect, two main parties calling on allies' assistance and then so on...

No, it can't and won't happen.

Some of the major world leaders may not be the brightest sparks, but they're old enough and mature enough to understand a full-scale World War would result in at least near-total human annihilation.

I think a lot of people fail to understand how much weaponry has advanced since the first half of the 20th Century.

Oh yes, countries can declare war but it won't get far, because it won't be like WW1/2's bog standard bombs, it will be atomic bombs.

Think Hiroshima and Nagasaki but instead of just two cities in that state, the entire world and it's population ravaged in a similar, but more powerful manner. You have to remember that in WW2, only two atomic bombs were used in five years but it would be different in a WWIII scenario, as many major countries have at least a few hundred (I know for a fact that the UK has kept untold atomic bombs hidden in some air bases) and the destructive power of an atomic bomb is far more than that of a conventional bomb:

"To take one example, if a 20 kiloton nuclear bomb (about twice as powerful as the bomb dropped on Hiroshima) was exploded on a city, the heat and blast generated would vaporise all people and buildings in the immediate area, and make a crater that might be as much as 100 metres in diameter. The wind created by the blast could be several hundred km/hr. The destruction of buildings would increase death and injury due to flying glass and other debris.The release of ionising radiation is a phenomenon unique to nuclear explosions and causes additional casualties alongside those caused by blast and thermal effects. There would be a number of deaths from radiation sickness, for which there is really no effective medical treatment.
Large amounts of earth, water and other debris in the area surrounding the explosion would be sucked up to form a "mushroom cloud" of radioactive debris. When this material returned to earth, as fallout, the effects could be spread even further, and might make the city (and an area of countryside stretching tens of kilometres downwind) uninhabitable for many weeks or even years."

And even a 20 Kt nuclear bomb is small considering the US has tested up to 15,000 kt.



I've studied WW1/2 in depth and how large powers have progressed their warfare abilities. *Certain* countries have even come across worst-case scenario of wiping out the human race.

War can happen but a full-scale World War like the previous? No, the US/UK will have to either talk down the issues or aim for a quick defeat. But since the modern world is so global-everything, the former is the most likely.

Plus, there's UNEP to consider too.
 

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They're all just hungry for war, Or at least that's how i see it...
 

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maybe you werent in school or just didnt pay attention in history class^^ fact is that never were we closer to WW3 than during the cold war. the leading generals literally were itching to just push the button to launch a nuclear bomb.... yet they didnt^^ there will always be wars and so on. but something like ww2 wont happen anytime soon (except for lets say some unpredictable things like israel/Usa and so on....)
 

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Human optimism will avert wars - a grand food for thought.
 

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Can we not turn this website into a political debate.

This isnt a really political debate, and there is nothing wrong with people debateing what they think about other stuff.

Especially when there are lots of members who do not seem to understand the concept of debate, and pretty much think its their way or the highway.

Ex. Thread "what I think ftg can be used for" (thread contents use logic based on what we have seen of ftg to make guess' at potential other uses and powers it can give. The person opens it up or discussion, as to what you think.


Other members:

1 "oh it doesnt matter sasuke soloes"

2"minatos fodder"

3" maybe"

etc.


But there is nothing wrong with haveing many debates about the world and politics, especially considering the current events.


To the thread.

I Think there will probably be another world war eventually. But I imagine it will be much different than previous wars. I dont think that countries will use nukes(due to mutual destruction, and other lasting side effects). But it will be a long technical fueled war.

I also believe that it is certainly possible for true world peace.

World peace is not eliminateing weapons. Or makeing everyone the same. It is people despite haveing the power to do the wrong thing, chooseing to do the right thing. It is people learning to accept that others are different, and tolerate those differences(not forced to accept them).

It is very likely it may never happen. But it is still possible.
 

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Evey day there are more deterrants for any kind of war between major countries, just the nukes were enough to keep both Russia andnthe US at bay even at the time of the cold war (and today it's nothing likenthat), and that was without major trade between east and west, today the US can't function without Europe or China, Europe can't function without Russia or the US or China, China can't function without the US and Europe, ...

Putin just needs to raise his profile and not look weak at home so he can avoid problems there, he's not an idiot

Trade is the best deterrant for war because economics is the most important aspect of society, every major event and change in history was partly (and mostly) due to economics (if we leave out religion), even autocracies are happy people as long as the leaders can dish out oil money
 
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the russia ukraine situation in my opinion can escelate to a war, but only if one of the parties does something really stupid. no one wants war right now, the reason russia is invading ukraine is because they are afraid after the rebellion they will turn to the european union or usa for help and essentialy "turn over to the enemy". it's kinda like how people were afraid that after the egyptian rebelion extermist terrorist groups will take control of the country and use it against the US. russian wants to keep ukraine for herself and not let anyone else use it against her.

if obama is smart he won't do anything, it sounds horrible but if he just lets russia do it's thing in the end there won't be any war. but if he tries to intervene then russia will be forced to react. thankfully the world has learned long ago that war is not profitable.
 

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FK war and everything it entails. Why would you want to kill more people, idiots.
 
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