[VS] Third Raikage vs Second Hokage

[Touken]

Sorry if it sounded like I was trying to undermine tobiramas abilities, it's just like you said we don't completely know how he fights and he hasn't shown enough feats for me to even think he has the slightest chance of harming, let alone defeating the raikage.

Yeah, I know. With current feats Raikage wins.

 

[Tobby17]

You mean the same rasengan naruto beat him with? Naruto was able to react fast enough to evade the raikages attack and aim for his arm, you don't think minato who has the best reflexes and reactions + ftg won't be able to do the same thing even better than naruto? And if it's bm minato vs raikage well then gg

no, it isn't the rasengan that hurt the Raikage lmao, he tanked a FRS, it's his own finger that pierced him and hurt him, Naruto got all the intel he could, Minato doesn't have this same intel. The third Raikage is not nearly as fast as the fourth Raikage, Naruto could react to his speed and Tobirama can't?:yeah:

BM is not a feat of Alive Minato, he will have to be an Edo to use this mode, and even then he can't beat third Raikage lmao. the dude tanked multiple bijuu damas from the 8 tails, his raw strength is comparable to the eight tails.. so once more NOTHING that Minato has can hurt him

 

[Curse Mark]

The **** did I just read?

 

[Draegod]

the third's speed is no where close to Ay's

Yes it is, only difference is the 4th has his Bijuu chakra power up which allows him to spam the Body flicker often. Manga fact the lighting body flicker armor makes you super fast, and naruto (on multiple occasions) states he is just like Aye, "really fast"

 

[Gold Lightning]

no, it isn't the rasengan that hurt the Raikage lmao, he tanked a FRS, it's his own finger that pierced him and hurt him, Naruto got all the intel he could, Minato doesn't have this same intel. The third Raikage is not nearly as fast as the fourth Raikage, Naruto could react to his speed and Tobirama can't?:yeah:

BM is not a feat of Alive Minato, he will have to be an Edo to use this mode, and even then he can't beat third Raikage lmao. the dude tanked multiple bijuu damas from the 8 tails, his raw strength is comparable to the eight tails.. so once more NOTHING that Minato has can hurt him

Minato is 10x smarter than Naruto, you don't think he'll notice the big lightning shaped scar on the raikages chest and determine it his weak point?? When I first saw the third Raikage I even guessed that he did it to himself. So I don't see why minato (one of the smartest ninja in the narutoverse) wouldn' be able to figure out the ssame thing naruto did.

Plus its not like the 8 tails told him how to defeat the Raikage, naruto still had to figure it out himself. Minato would do the same thing but even easier. Power isn't everything in naruto.

 

[Tobby17]

Minato is 10x smarter than Naruto, you don't think he'll notice the big lightning shaped scar on the raikages chest and determine it his weak point?? When I first saw the third Raikage I even guessed that he did it to himself. So I don't see why minato (one of the smartest ninja in the narutoverse) wouldn' be able to figure out the ssame thing naruto did.

Plus its not like the 8 tails told him how to defeat the Raikage, naruto still had to figure it out himself. Minato would do the same thing but even easier. Power isn't everything in naruto.

Yes and Tobirama isn't as smart as Naruto to figure it out, neither is he as fast as SM Naruto to react to the Raikage's speed...

 

[Shura]

Oh? Whose arm broke off like a twig when Obito's black orb touched his arm? I recall a Tobirama Bunshin carrying the orb mid-explosion no sweat. Plus, note that whilst Minato stood there gawping at the orb, Tobirama had planned what to do in a split second, Minato is too slow mentally to deal with him.

ET + FTG + Suiton = Minato done for.

Don't joke around. Minato beats Tobirama. It's not even debatable. Or do you honestly believe his crappy FTG will save him from Minato's Bijuudama? :|

 

[Draegod]

Minato is 10x smarter than Naruto, you don't think he'll notice the big lightning shaped scar on the raikages chest and determine it his weak point?? When I first saw the third Raikage I even guessed that he did it to himself. So I don't see why minato (one of the smartest ninja in the narutoverse) wouldn' be able to figure out the ssame thing naruto did.

Plus its not like the 8 tails told him how to defeat the Raikage, naruto still had to figure it out himself. Minato would do the same thing but even easier. Power isn't everything in naruto.

Minato doesnt have Sage mode enhanced reaction and reflexes. He is Just foot speed and FTG, not good at dodging like hyugas and uchihas dodge (last second dodging with out running)

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Minato doesnt have Sage mode enhanced reaction and reflexes. He is Just foot speed and FTG, not good at dodging like hyugas and uchihas dodge (last second dodging with out running)

Wha- Ho- I don't even- huh- wha-...

You do realise Minato has the best reflexes in the manga bar Juubito and has never been -HIT- by -ANYONE- except Juubito, whom is a god?

 

[Penguin]

Don't joke around. Minato beats Tobirama. It's not even debatable. Or do you honestly believe his crappy FTG will save him from Minato's Bijuudama? :|

When we Tobirama fans say Tobirama vs Minato, we are not giving Minato 16 years prep time for the Kyuubi.

Wha- Ho- I don't even- huh- wha-...

You do realise Minato has the best reflexes in the manga bar Juubito and has never been -HIT- by -ANYONE- except Juubito, whom is a god?

Tobirama has excellent reflexes as well, on par with Minato or better.

 

[Draegod]

Wha- Ho- I don't even- huh- wha-...

You do realise Minato has the best reflexes in the manga bar Juubito and has never been -HIT- by -ANYONE- except Juubito, whom is a god?

Yes to use FTG with, not to do anything not FTG related. not close to being like narutos sage mode reaction and reflexes.

 

[Penguin]

Yes to use FTG with, not to do anything not FTG related. not close to being like narutos sage mode reaction and reflexes.

Minato's and Tobirama's reflexes far outclass SM Naruto's.

 

[Draegod]

When we Tobirama fans say Tobirama vs Minato, we are not giving Minato 16 years prep time for the Kyuubi.

Fuq it! I want to see an all out debate of the 2! Minato can use BM feats but Tobirama can summon his dead Brother with low feats like oru summoned hashirama (no sage mode/FTW/Golem).

We/I had to deal with minato fans for at least 2 years straight (solo'd the site 2 times as well). It's Tobirama's fans time to experience true Horror! lol

 

[Draegod]

Minato's and Tobirama's reflexes far outclass SM Naruto's.

Again you don't get it in the slightest! SHow one scan of Minato/Tobirama dodging any ninja with out using FTG. 1 scan to represent the both of them!

 

[Penguin]

Before I make my post, I just want everyone to know that prior to the attack, Juubito has not shown any speed. No one knew how fast Juubito was, so that is why Hashirama and Tobirama were blitz'd.

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Again, no one knew what to expect with Juubito. Hashirama's clone was blitz'd, and Tobirama was blitz'd, from the start.

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This is a paramount feat. During the near instant Juubito's blitz, Tobirama recovered after being completely surprised. With one half of a body, and under milliseconds to think of a plan, Tobirama pulls through and thought of one. Tobirama, with only one hand, tagged Jubito thrice with explosive tags, along with one Hiraishin mark. That is an outlandish feat, considering Tobirama did it so fast, Juubito did not even realize he was tagged.

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^ El oh el.

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Notice this is Minato, who is millimeters away from the attack he noticed first, in a KCM cloak which increases speed and reactions. Next manga page he just stares at it in awe, when presumably Tobirama takes chase for it. On the third page Minato still has not teleported the bomb away, with his amazing reactions.

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Finally, Tobirama just doesn't care anymore and takes the mini TBB and shoves it in Rikudobito's face.

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^ Tobirama.

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Minato screams Naruto like a Sakura while Tobirama acts and saves Naruto with Sarutobi.

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Tobirama then proceeds to run after Naruto, leaving that clown Minato in the dust.

#RuffledFeathers

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I don't know if these are good enough, but here are some of Tobirama's reaction feats.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Hashirama stomps.

 

[Optimistic]

Hashirama stomps.

wtf are you smoking? Hashirama isn't in this match up.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

wtf are you smoking? Hashirama isn't in this match up.

Where's your evidence? Prove it.

 

[Optimistic]

Where's your evidence? Prove it.

Read the title man.O___O

 

[Penguin]

Read the title man.O___O

You realize Tobirama was the First Hokage [Shodaime] and Hashirama was the Second [Nidaime].