Third Raikage vs Sasori, Konan, Deidara, Kakuzu, Hidan

[Icelerate]

No its not :lol ? Kakuzu's went into something much large in a much quicker time. WCN barely covered the distance.

How did you come to that conclusion?

 

[NarutoX28]

All i gotta say is, Wank Is Real.

Poison GG



Ohhhh shittt I just remembered since Kakuzu fanboys are also here:

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It's not as if Kakuzu Wank is going to work here anyways. Raiton disables Domu and the 3rd's Nukite is far superior to Kakashi's Raikiri feat-wise.

 

[Icelerate]

C3 gg.......

Either tanked or defused with black lightning. On the other hand, Deidara's teammates die. Smart strategy Unorthodox.

 

[Zexion~]

How did you come to that conclusion?

For starters the basic wind that is expelled from the blast blitzed Kakashi before he could do anything, and that is all he needs negate raiton, however it than formed into a gigantic fuuton that spans at the least 100 meters behind Kakuzu in mere seconds. Temari's took longer in both instances.

 

[KidGamer65]

What? Deidara can easily create C1 [

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], he not only managed to take off the Shurikens from his arms, but also create a C1 bird and fly out of the explosion radius

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. Deidara can easily create the bird quickly and go airborne. He just needs to fly up while dropping

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so that the Raikage can't follow up. Once he's airborne he can simply use C4 and win.

C4 doesn't work bruh. Already said that. Raiton armor would nullify it.

 

[KidGamer65]

:lol woah there. Can someone give me a great speed feat that even puts him able to blitz anyone from 25 meters? Because I don't recall any. He's got good agility and reflexes plus he's durable as hell, he's not a shunsin abuser like his son.

Deidara can give every one of his team members flight which ****s up his day. He was caught by a less quick, and smaller fuuton in Temari's, why are people saying he can definitely avoid Kakuzu's? It may not be able to harm him but it can remove the cloak of lightning which may open up an opportunity for the Akatsuki to win as well as give them time to get in the air., though its not very likely I suppose, however I don't really see how he'd be able to hit all of them in the air either.


C4 is negated by lightning cloak Apex my man

He's equal with his son outside of V2. Take every Shunshin feat Ay has apart from that and give it to the 3rd, and you come to the conclusion he easily avoids Kakuzu's attack. Especially since someone far slower already did so. He wasn't even cloaked when he got hit by Cast Net.

 

[NarutoX28]

For starters the basic wind that is expelled from the blast blitzed Kakashi before he could do anything, and that is all he needs negate raiton, however it than formed into a gigantic fuuton that spans at the least 100 meters behind Kakuzu in mere seconds. Temari's took longer in both instances.

You mean to tell me that Kakuzu's Futon is doing something here when Hidan can tank the blast unscathed? Yeah, highly doubt it. Raikage shits on it without his Raiton Armor. The only Futon techniques that proved to be effective were one's with piercing qualities and Kakuzu's seems rather similar to a blunt force rather than a penetrative one.

 

[Thesaurus]

C4 doesn't work bruh. Already said that. Raiton armor would nullify it.

What? Raiton armor has no electric properties similarly to how Sasuke's Chidori Eiso doesn't. No one that's ever touched Ay has been electrocuted or gone numb, and many people have in fact made contact with him. Same with Sasuke's Chidori eiso. So I'd like some proof that it can nullify the C4.

Edit: In case you need some more proof that Raiton shroud can't electrocute.

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Nah Zex, it's not

 

[LuckyMan]

For starters the basic wind that is expelled from the blast blitzed Kakashi before he could do anything, and that is all he needs negate raiton, however it than formed into a gigantic fuuton that spans at the least 100 meters behind Kakuzu in mere seconds. Temari's took longer in both instances.

Not really. Kakuzu took advantage of Hidans immortality and blasted them both, which was unexpected. Not only is Third Raikage faster than Kakashi, but Hidan and Kakashi tanked that Futon with no damage and it'll take a Futon stronger than that to unravel Raiton Armor.

 

[LuckyMan]

What? Raiton armor has no electric properties similarly to how Sasuke's Chidori Eiso doesn't. No one that's ever touched Ay has been electrocuted or gone numb, and many people have in fact made contact with him. Same with Sasuke's Chidori eiso. So I'd like some proof that it can nullify the C4.

Edit: In case you need some more proof that Raiton shroud can't electrocute.

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Nah Zex, it's not

Think we had this conversation before. He electrocuted and paralyzed Madara in their final confrontation.

 

[KidGamer65]

What? Raiton armor has no electric properties similarly to how Sasuke's Chidori Eiso doesn't. No one that's ever touched Ay has been electrocuted or gone numb, and many people have in fact made contact with him. Same with Sasuke's Chidori eiso. So I'd like some proof that it can nullify the C4.

Edit: In case you need some more proof that Raiton shroud can't electrocute.

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Nah Zex, it's not

Whether or not it electrocutes people doesn't matter. C4 gets nullified when Raiton touches it. Not sure why you are mentioning Chidori Eiso since it doesn't prove that it won't nullify Deidara's bombs. Chidori Senbon works just like Eiso, but it's smaller. Yet they negated the bombs. No reason why Eiso wouldn't. Just like there is no reason the armor wouldn't.

 

[Zexion~]

He's equal with his son outside of V2. Take every Shunshin feat Ay has apart from that and give it to the 3rd, and you come to the conclusion he easily avoids Kakuzu's attack. Especially since someone far slower already did so. He wasn't even cloaked when he got hit by Cast Net.

Why are we doing this? He got wrecked by KCM Naruto? I mean he dodged Ay yeah, but what he did to his dad was way worse :lol, then he got caught by Gaara's sand as well. He's literally shown no feats to prove this. Does anyone realize how large this jutsu is :lol ? I'll break it down someday, but when fighting 6 other people, even if they can't do anything they'd have his attention he could be caught by it.

 

[Thesaurus]

Whether or not it electrocutes people doesn't matter. C4 gets nullified when Raiton touches it. Not sure why you are mentioning Chidori Eiso since it doesn't prove that it won't nullify Deidara's bombs. Chidori Senbon works just like Eiso, but it's smaller. Yet they negated the bombs. No reason why Eiso wouldn't. Just like there is no reason the armor wouldn't.

What the hell? I showed you scans of Raiton shroud failing to electrocute. So it doesn't compare to the conventional Raiton offensive attack. It's used to increase speed and durability, so there's no reason to believe it can negate the C4 without electrocuting them. And ok, Chidori Eiso is irrelevant and a bad point. Doesn't change that Raiton shroud an't electrocute and thus can't defuse the bombs.

 

[Worm]

Whether or not it electrocutes people doesn't matter. C4 gets nullified when Raiton touches it. Not sure why you are mentioning Chidori Eiso since it doesn't prove that it won't nullify Deidara's bombs. Chidori Senbon works just like Eiso, but it's smaller. Yet they negated the bombs. No reason why Eiso wouldn't. Just like there is no reason the armor wouldn't.

As far as I know, sfx=chirping noise = electricity. So the needles do have electricity.

 

[NarutoX28]

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To be able to touch me even when I'm clad in Raiton Armor ... That's really something!

Naw, I don't think C4 is getting through.

 

[KidGamer65]

As far as I know, sfx=chirping noise = electricity. So the needles do have electricity.

Electricity? Yes. All Raiton techniques have electricity so I'm not sure what you are trying to prove here.

What the hell? I showed you scans of Raiton shroud failing to electrocute. So it doesn't compare to the conventional Raiton offensive attack. It's used to increase speed and durability, so there's no reason to believe it can negate the C4 without electrocuting them. And ok, Chidori Eiso is irrelevant and a bad point. Doesn't change that Raiton shroud an't electrocute and thus can't defuse the bombs.

It doesn't electrocute the bombs to set them off. Not sure what is so hard for you to grasp about this. You haven't even countered my point. When Raiton chakra touches the bombs, they are defused. What the hell are you going on about when you keep talking about it not being able to electrocute people? As if it was even relevant.

Like I told you. Eiso and Senbon work the same. They don't electrocute people, yet Senbon can defuse the bombs. So why in the world would C4 not be defused when it touches the Raiton Chakra? Eiso is a bad point to make because it proves my argument. It's not irrelevant in any way, shape or form.

Why are we doing this? He got wrecked by KCM Naruto? I mean he dodged Ay yeah, but what he did to his dad was way worse , then he got caught by Gaara's sand as well. He's literally shown no feats to prove this. Does anyone realize how large this jutsu is ? I'll break it down someday, but when fighting 6 other people, even if they can't do anything they'd have his attention he could be caught by it.

-He's as fast as V1 Ay. Stated by Naruto. Not sure why you are mentioning V2 Ay when I specifically said that V2 Ay is faster.

-Irrelevant. Being slower than KCM Naruto is irrelevant since I never claimed he was faster, nor does he need to be faster to dodge the Fuuton.

-He wasn't cloaked when he got caught by Gaara, once again. LMao.

We don't care how large it is. Kakashi evaded it. Without a great distraction, it's easily evaded. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Zexion~]

Bruh its not electricity that negates doton, its the presence of raiton chakra in general, as the human body contains electricity through impulses and the nervous system, yet that doesn't negate the C4's obviously.

If there is Raiton Chakra its going to negate doton. Regardless of if it "electrocutes" or not

 

[LuckyMan]

Ay using Raiton Armor. If Madara would have stopped absorbing the jutsu, the electricity would have paralyzed him so the armor can electrocute.

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[Worm]

Electricity? Yes. All Raiton techniques have electricity so I'm not sure what you are trying to prove here.

To overload something with electricity, you need to electrocute it. Sasuke stated that diffusing Deidara's bombs can be done only through overloading them with electricity. Not just touching them with Raiton Chakra and that tells me that the needles overloaded Deidara's bombs with electricity and they do indeed electrocute things.

 

[Thesaurus]

It doesn't electrocute the bombs to set them off. Not sure what is so hard for you to grasp about this. You haven't even countered my point. When Raiton chakra touches the bombs, they are defused. What the hell are you going on about when you keep talking about it not being able to electrocute people? As if it was even relevant.

Like I told you. Eiso and Senbon work the same. They don't electrocute people, yet Senbon can defuse the bombs. So why in the world would C4 not be defused when it touches the Raiton Chakra? Eiso is a bad point to make because it proves my argument. It's not irrelevant in any way, shape or form.

But what exactly proves that the Raiton can do something to do C4 upon contact? It applies in a situation like Chidori Nagashi where any contact with it would electrocute you because it holds electric properties. This does not apply to Raiton shroud because it does not hold electric properties, like the conventional Raiton would. It is very relevant, otherwise there'd be no reason to believe Raiton can defuse the Clay, just like Mist which is made of water wouldn't instantly defuse fire upon contact (yes it's suiton).

No, Chidori spear and Chidori Katana can both cause electrocution.

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^Bottom part it says it can cause paralysis.

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^This Jutsu is SUITED for electrical discharges. So yes, it does cause numbing. Not to mention both are direct variants of Chidori, which has already shown to electrocute Bee himself, who is a proficient Raiton user. Probably why every character barely makes a sound upon contact with it. So no, my points stand regardless of Chidori Eiso or Senbon, because nothing indicates Ay's Raiton shroud has electric properties that the conventional Raiton would, similar to how Mist would have nigh no effect on fire.

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He diffused them by "overloading" them with electricity. That implies mere contact didn't do the trick, he needed to overload them.

Ay using Raiton Armor. If Madara would have stopped absorbing the jutsu, the electricity would have paralyzed him so the armor can electrocute.

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Anime is not an accurate representation of the manga no matter how much you want it to be. Raikage didn't directly inpute anything into Mei, otherwise Mei would've been electrocuted herself. Thus she channeled Raiton through his chakra source, but wasn't using his direct raiton shroud as electricity (raiton can electrocute other raiton users as shown in the manga multiple times). She clearly wasn't.