[VS] Third Raikage vs Kisame

[Apêx1]

I'm on my phone so I can post all the scans I want. Plus o don't know how to do that URL link thing where I can make a word or number/letter a hyperlink. I hope you don't really need me to provide all the scans that hype the Thirds speed or provide feats.

The feats of Third Raikages massive chakra level are as clear as day, if you choose to not believe it or downplay it then that's up to you. Fighting for 3 days and making a tailed beast pass out is all the proof you need. Raikage didn't even pass out from chakra exhaustion, he stabbed himself and got ko'd.

Sasuke wasn't faster than v1 Ay, what a joke. People will laugh at you for saying such a thing. Sasuke used the sharingan to Ay's attacks, and he still got liger bombed. Not sure where you got Bee being faster from Sasuke from, not saying your wrong, just saying I don't know where you got it from. Oh my gosh, Ay is not slower than v2 bee U_U, I seriously don't know where in the manga that bee has been hailed for all this speed you're giving him, I know he's fast but damn.

Again, Samehada isn't absorbing the entire shroud before Raikage pierces him with hell stab. His chakra will be shaved off but not before getting pierced through at high speed.

There is no argument for water dome, that's Kisame's own downfall. He'll be severely electrocuted by black lightning. Samehada isn't going to magically stop the pain, he can try to absorb as much as he can but it'll still badly hurt under water. We've already seen that Samehada doesn't stop damage, Kisame still gets hurt, especially depending on how powerful the attack is.


1 finger hell stab > lariat U_U

Also in regard to you other comment. Kisame never faced the full 8 tails Bee. 3rd Raikahe did and took him down. V2 bee < full 8 tails

That's fine, I guess.
I do realise he has massive chakra, what I don't acknowledge is him having tailed beast levels of chakra given it was never implied. Still was heavily exhausted, and only exhausted the Hachibi due to cutting off his tails.

I think you misread some of it. I did indeed claim Sasuke is faster than v1 Ay, because from as far as I can tell, V1 Ay's speed feats don't match up to MS Sasuke's speed feats. Having shown greater agility in that small quarrel was simply slight proof to back up m statement since I don't want to go digging for Hebi Sasuke's speed feats (I can if you want me to). And I said v2 Bee>v1 Ay, not v2 Ay, I think you misread that or simply are mistaking v1 Ay's speed for his v2 feats. v1 Bee outright destroyed MS Sasuke in terms of speed, Ay was being easily followed in v1.

Once again, I disagree. Maybe if I give scans you will understand where I am coming from. It was capable of absorbing an entire v1 shroud instantaneously [

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] is a perfect example of what would happen to Sandaime. When v2 attacks Kisame, there was pretty much nothing to do considering his chakra was too much to absorb in contrast to the other cloaks.

As he did against Bee's v1, he will not get injured once he's shaved off the chakra from his hellstab. A regular physical attack won't do much.

Once again, I said he can absorb from anywhere in his body while in kisamehada fusion. You can see in this scan [

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] he claims just by contact with his body, he is losing chakra rapidly. This means any chakra in contact with his body is bound to be absorbed, hence electrocuting the dome, with raiton chakra, gets absorbed as soon as it makes contact with his body. Once Kisame reached Sandaime it's over.

He's not v2 Bee speeds nor v1 Ay speeds until an actual feat can be given of his movement speed in comparison to another notable person's movement speed. Note movement speed, not agility or striking speed, movement speed. Until then there's no reason for me to believe he can strike prior to Samehada absorbing his shroud or Dome having been initiated.

 

[KidGamer65]

Where did Dodai react to him? I remember Raikage blitzing 19 people all at once with his speed, Naruto even said he took out a dozen guys in an 'instant'. Naruto also complimented his speed in comparison to Ay and there are other quotes of his speed being complimented, of course he has the speed to blitz Kisame. If Bee in V1 had the speed to lariat him (along with Ay) before he could make a hand sign, then why wouldn't the third Raikage, unless you think he's slower than Bee.

1. Raikage charges.

2. Dodai uses defensive jutsu. [

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Naruto's compliment along with his feats only puts him V1 Ay level, which isn't enough to blitz Kisame, not a chance. B didn't even blitz Kisame either,

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, only to get injured because it was too much chakra to handle at once. No reason to believe he'll blitz Kisame before he can make the Water Dome, that's pure nonsense.

Putting Raikage in a dome is suicidal, he'll just electrocute the whole thing, either by using his lightning cloak to shock the whole thing or using black lightning.

Then Kisame absorbs the chakra from his electrical attack, so no, there is no issue here.

 

[LustyLover]

Kisame takes it med diff. The Raikages aren't that great matchups for Kisame.

 

[Apêx1]

KG pretty much just disproved any blitzing. If this guy could set up his rubber at point blank range [

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], then Kisame will definitely clap his hands and release water at 25 meters.

 

[Bronze]

Can someone pinpoint where Bee tried to blitz Kisame, because I don't see it.​

 

[Unorthodox]

kisame low diff

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

It can go either way...

And it's high diff for who ever wins
Let's b cereal

Raikage is indeed faster then kisame but kisame can cast water dome not to mention absorb raikage chakra and sameheada was able to absorb 6 tails from be in one swipe just saying

Then again raikage only really needs one clean hell stab to put down kisame and as stated before is faster it just honestly depends on who is faster with casting their Jutsu, knowledge and distance

If it is the distance of let's say Gaara and kimmimaru starting out giving it to raikage if it's really far let's say Gaara and his dad (remember b4 he got there Mu sensed Gaara and told his dad) then id give it to kisame

Question ?? Can raikage electrocute kisame from underwater in water dome cuz if Thts true then my vote changes to raikage high diff


Also throw in black lighting which should be too fast for kisame to intercept...


Anyway it's high diff for either party ..

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Kisame shits. He can absorb anything the Raikage throws at him. Speed shouldn't be a factor since it's clear that the 3rd Raikage isn't as fast as Ay.

Y'all all make it sound as if the 3rd is leagues faster then his dad when we all know that is not the case -_- he's faster but not super Od fast

Y'all make it seem as if it's a speed comparison of current sasuke and tsuande (just using example Female fatale dnt behead me :| )
When it's really more like minato and tobirama
We know minato is faster but not by much...

 

[Draegod]

1. Raikage charges.

2. Dodai uses defensive jutsu. [

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Naruto's compliment along with his feats only puts him V1 Ay level, which isn't enough to blitz Kisame, not a chance. B didn't even blitz Kisame either,

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, only to get injured because it was too much chakra to handle at once. No reason to believe he'll blitz Kisame before he can make the Water Dome, that's pure nonsense.



Then Kisame absorbs the chakra from his electrical attack, so no, there is no issue here.

Raikage instantly blitz the small mountain they were own, once he was in range kabuto made him go into a tactic that would knock naruto unconscious because he want to capture him. That is no feat of dodai "reacting" to a "blitz", because that wasn't a blitz. It was merely a striking notion and nothing else.

Next kisame already prepared sama in front and knew what to do when he seen v2. He was destroyed by v2 bee no diff in that battle. So that wasn't a "reacted" to v2 bee feat.

 

[battlestatio]

Raikage instantly blitz the small mountain they were own even though naruto could since malice, once he was in range kabuto made him go into a tactic that would knock naruto unconscious because he want to capture him. That is no feat of dodai "reacting" to a "blitz", because that wasn't a blitz. It was merely a striking notion and nothing else.

Next kisame already prepared sama in front and knew what to do when he seen v2. He was destroyed by v2 bee no diff in that battle. So that wasn't a "reacted" to v2 bee feat.

Naruto was in base at that particular time if you are referring to

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. If you weren't my bad. Base Naruto can't sense and wasn't looking at the 3rd Raikage.

OT: Kisame wins mid-high difficulty.

 

[KidGamer65]

Raikage instantly blitz the small mountain they were own, once he was in range kabuto made him go into a tactic that would knock naruto unconscious because he want to capture him. That is no feat of dodai "reacting" to a "blitz", because that wasn't a blitz. It was merely a striking notion and nothing else.

Instantly blitz? Temari managed to warn them the panel before that he was coming, and no, the Raikage charged and Dodai reacted with the Lava Wall, in the scan I posted.

Next kisame already prepared sama in front and knew what to do when he seen v2. He was destroyed by v2 bee no diff in that battle. So that wasn't a "reacted" to v2 bee feat.

You're right here.

 

[Draegod]

Instantly blitz? Temari managed to warn them the panel before that he was coming, and no, the Raikage charged and Dodai reacted with the Lava Wall, in the scan I posted.



You're right here.

But like i stated, it wasnt a "blitz". He wasn't

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, nor was he in control. That my friend is a fact. The point is you cannot judge on that account since it wasn't a "I'm trying to kill you" moment.

 

[GodKage]

Raikage is way to fast

 

[KidGamer65]

But like i stated, it wasnt a "blitz". He wasn't

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, nor was he in control. That my friend is a fact. The point is you cannot judge on that account since it wasn't a "I'm trying to kill you" moment.

-A blitz doesn't mean he's going for the kill, so you have no point here.

-Him being in control doesn't mean that it wasn't any kind of blitz.

The Raikage charged and Dodai threw up a defense. He reacted to him.

 

[AizenSosuke]

3rd raikage is underestimated. Bee with Lariat blew a hole in Kisame, and raikages spear is better than lariat. Raikage mid diff.

 

[Inert Brian]

3rd raikage is underestimated. Bee with Lariat blew a hole in Kisame, and raikages spear is better than lariat. Raikage mid diff.

Kisame also laughed it off. Kisame also managed to absorb chakra when he took the hit, almost like when Nagato sucked Bee's chakra when he went for lariat.

 

[ToshiZO]

the way i hear people talking about Kisame it sounds like he's the second coming of Hagoromo and can solo the entire NV...

Jesus people, get off your knees...

Its sad actually. Kisame is not someone who needs to be wanked he is already strong as is.

 

[Inert Brian]

Its sad actually. Kisame is not someone who needs to be wanked he is already strong as is.

Kisame has proven his strength. He isn't wanked.

He got intel to Tobi despite going up against KCM Naruto, Yamato, 7th gate Gai, and KB being in the area. I should also add the fact that Kisame had been starving in Samehada for weeks, Aoba Yamanaka notes twice Kisame was weakened.

 

[ToshiZO]

Kisame has proven his strength. He isn't wanked.

He got intel to Tobi despite going up against KCM Naruto, Yamato, 7th gate Gai, and KB being in the area. I should also add the fact that Kisame had been starving in Samehada for weeks, Aoba Yamanaka notes twice Kisame was weakened.

The way Kishi treated Kisame in those couple chapters was quite disrespectful actually. He turned it into a comedy routine, its like Killer Bee and Naruto didn't take Kisame seriously at all. They were busy joking around, Naruto got his leg stuck IIRC. That was terribly written. This is an S rank shinobi, and it turned into a comedy skit. And then he gets dummied by Gai, who caught up with him while he was trying to escape.

The death itself though was not bad at all.

 

[Inert Brian]

The way Kishi treated Kisame in those couple chapters was quite disrespectful actually. He turned it into a comedy routine, its like Killer Bee and Naruto didn't take Kisame seriously at all. They were busy joking around, Naruto got his leg stuck IIRC. That was terribly written. This is an S rank shinobi, and it turned into a comedy skit. And then he gets dummied by Gai, who caught up with him while he was trying to escape.

The death itself though was not bad at all.

Agreed, they made KCM Naruto, and KB do literally nothing. Although Kisame still gets a lot of credit considering he trapped them with that fake scroll, that was genius. I can't imagine Kisame's death in english dub.