Third Hokage vs Orchimaru (reanimation fight) 1st Hokage ETC ETC

[HilariousJutsu]

If the first hokage could break out of Edo Tensai, then why did he just let him self kill the third with the 2nd? The 2nd made the jutsu and everything, I assume he can break out of it as well just like Madara. Is this explained or?

because it really rustles my jimmies the 1st hokage was like, yup i already broke this, but when he was forced to fight the 3rd, he just let himself do w.e orchimaru wanted. was trollololol to me

 

[The Necromancer]

Orochimaru bound their minds and personalities when fighting hiruzen 3 years ago. This time he let him keep his will, which let him break out.

 

[sulanis]

Before he rezzed the first and second last time he took away there will by installing those scrolls into there heads.

This time Ororchimaru did not take away there will only there bodies.

 

[YellowFang]

They weren't themselves then....

 

[avenged sevenfold]

At first orochimaru had bound their will so he could use them in whatever way he wanted. But this time he didn't which allowed the first hokage to break out of his jutsu

 

[HilariousJutsu]

This is not true at all, they had a free period of about 2 minutes before he installed the scrolls.

 

[HilariousJutsu]

Defend it how you want, watch the anime fight and see as Orchimaru uses talk no jutsu on the Third before he puts the kunai with the tag in them.

 

[IzanamiFan]

.... He was only able to break out this time because Oro through Kabuto improved the edo Jutsu. They specifically answer this if you read the manga.

 

[HilariousJutsu]

I would love for you to show me the panels on this, i have read the manga and not seen any mention of this.

This is not being supported very well, the 1st broke out this time vs a refined kabuto version, the one that orchimaru used was by far a weaker version so what is the difference? Kishi's pulling shit out of his ass like no tomorrow all day anyday, then he skips a week so you get all hyped for a filler. this manga should be dead.

 

[Fluffy raseangan]

mind you the edo tensei was not yet perfected until kabuto did; so this time they were reaminated with thier full powers

 

[NOemotions]

This is not true at all, they had a free period of about 2 minutes before he installed the scrolls.

it's true he summoned them.. and waited a bit.. but he didnt activate the edos.. he did it after he used the controlling tags on em..

 

[HilariousJutsu]

it's true he summoned them.. and waited a bit.. but he didnt activate the edos.. he did it after he used the controlling tags on em..

Hate to break it to you man, but they were talking to the third before they fought and were forced to fight, they had their will for awhile there. It is not about how edo tensai makes them come back with their full powers, even the reanimation jutsu allowed the 1st to come back with a lot of his power, and it seems unsigning a contract like edo tensai doesn't take much seeing as though his brother made the damn jutsu. I'm pretty sure the first just felt like killing the third. /thread.

 

[boshans]

They were not revived at nearly their full power the first time Orochimaru resurrected them, that is why they couldn't break free. Yes they had a little peroid of time when their personalities were intact the first time Oro revived them, but they didn't have their full power, so they couldn't. It says it right in the manga.

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[Percy Jackson]

Current hashirama and tobirama's power are almost full power. In other words in part 1 they are very very weak.
Oro. Put that tag on there brain just to make them lose there personality.
Kabuto ones said that he don't make deidara (or all badguys.. *I don't quite remember who exactly) lose there personality..
In other words the tag on was just to make them lose personality not control..