Thinking Kakashi can take itachi or sasuke (with logic, reason and evidence)

[DeViliShChild]

I am not taking away from Kakashi, but asserting that he can beat Itachi is just not true. So one has to be for or against this statement. I am against Kakashi beating Itachi. So everything i say will be why Kakashi cannot beat Itachi. This does not take away from Kakashi, he is still a bada$$ character.
Kakashi has just shown to not be able to counter Tsyukuomi. Watching feet doesn't work. He can't use Kamui because he has to look at where he is absorbing, and he would be put in Tsyukuomi. Kakashi cannot make many clones to distract/ attack. Even if he does make clones, Itachi can too, with the crows which is shown in almost every fight.

 

[Sexy Steel]

kakashi doesn't even need to go near as he can kamui itachi's neck off to another dimension.

if kakashi looks anywhere near itachi's face he gets genjutsu'd, if he looks away amaterasu will hit him

 

[409fusion]

I'm not so sure with the amaterasu part , but i think Itachi will win because even if kakashi manages to kamui the susanoo's weapons or the susanoo itself it wouldn't be the end for itachi as kakashi will definately run outta chakra especially if he uses it at the end of the fight. So raikiri wouldn't be an option. So i think Itachi will win. Peace!!

 

[iamsuperboggs]

itachi wins high difficulty.

 

[garas56]

Posible he can yet i doubt now they all advenced Kakashi in his Kamui and Logic,Sasuke in his grate powers of eyes and Itachi on his powers and Logic.They are all on same Lvl I Think (If Kakashi wuld be Uchiha he wuld be Strongest of all).

 

[Optimistic]

he couldn't even handle a weaken almost blind sasuke
after 1 arrow he was stumbling off his feet.

 

[Lordofd100x]

taijutsu is propably the only skill they are closest in. ps kakashi may have dodged hidan and the masks but kakuzu raped him 1 on 1.

Genjutsu is obvious.

ninjutsu is ALSO obvious, no matter how many jutsu you know if u cant use it fast enough theres no point... u just got burned or soaked or thunderd.

And i think sasukes past itachi by far

 

[lukasenko]

the logic that u use may make sense ONLY to u, but u forget to emphasise the weaknesses that Kakashi has. His stamina is poor as shit. No way he would be able to afford a full scale battle against itachi...

His raikiri is pretty much useless, no way that technique will be able to catch itachi - sasuke didn't even dare to use it against him

Genjutsu, well u forgot izanami on itachi's side - Itachi is just on another scale of using the sharingan

Ninjutus - as much jutsus that kakashi may know he only has the chance of using just a mere amount of them because of his very small reserves of chakra.

ABOVE ALL - i don't know but if u consider it fair and square there is really no way that kakashi can counter itachi MS. The susanoo with the sword and shiel, that's too much for kakashi to break through. Plus kakashi's kamui is really not effective against itachi

By the time that itachi would be exhausted kakashi would be dead twice ! We have seen itachi's stamina against sasuke. He didn't stop because he ran out of chakra, he stopped because the disease killed him. I can't remember a battle where kakashi did not run out of chakra

 

[lukasenko]

taijutsu is propably the only skill they are closest in. ps kakashi may have dodged hidan and the masks but kakuzu raped him 1 on 1.

Genjutsu is obvious.

ninjutsu is ALSO obvious, no matter how many jutsu you know if u cant use it fast enough theres no point... u just got burned or soaked or thunderd.

And i think sasukes past itachi by far

Please, sasuke has not past itachi by sh*t. I only need to make the situation clear to u just by taking into consideration the battle itachi/sasuke vs kabuto. Just refer to that fight and it is very obvious who takes the lead and expertise on doing everything. In fact, in many occasions sasuke is shown as a hindrance for itachi as he saves sasuke several times during the fight!

I most of the time being an obstacle is what really means to surpass someone, then off fuc* it

 

[ziggyZ]

Perhaps...

 

[garas56]

the logic that u use may make sense ONLY to u, but u forget to emphasise the weaknesses that Kakashi has. His stamina is poor as shit. No way he would be able to afford a full scale battle against itachi...

His raikiri is pretty much useless, no way that technique will be able to catch itachi - sasuke didn't even dare to use it against him

Genjutsu, well u forgot izanami on itachi's side - Itachi is just on another scale of using the sharingan

Ninjutus - as much jutsus that kakashi may know he only has the chance of using just a mere amount of them because of his very small reserves of chakra.

ABOVE ALL - i don't know but if u consider it fair and square there is really no way that kakashi can counter itachi MS. The susanoo with the sword and shiel, that's too much for kakashi to break through. Plus kakashi's kamui is really not effective against itachi

By the time that itachi would be exhausted kakashi would be dead twice ! We have seen itachi's stamina against sasuke. He didn't stop because he ran out of chakra, he stopped because the disease killed him. I can't remember a battle where kakashi did not run out of chakra

1.Kakashi has alot of stamina in the fight aginst Tobi
2.IzanamiAccording to Itachi, there was a point in time where members of the clan abused the abilities granted by Izanagi, instead simply casting the technique as a means of escaping the undesirable results of their actions. Whilst this resulted in little issue if only one person were using Izanagi, if there were two or more casters, they would begin to fight amongst each other over personally favourable outcomes. Thus, as dōjutsu users were unlikely to succumb to ocular genjutsu, Izanami was created as a method to reprimand such clansmen, as well as save them from their own arrogance. By imprisoning them within an unalterable loop of events, the victim was forced to accept the reality they had created if they ever wished to escape the illusion. However, because of the dangers involved in using a technique with a way out in a real battle, Izanami became classed as a kinjutsu.
3.He can he has reached Roof with his stamina alredy used kamui 5 times he can use jutsus even more time.
4.Fanboyism wont help.

 

[sdam]

Can i ask you guys a Question.
Who will win in a fight A( Not in his prime, and without his arm..) Or Killer Bee!.. . If some of you could just answer fast it would be perfect

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Kakashi doesn't have much of a chance against either opponont.Sasuke pretty much uses Susanoo all the time now, which put Kakashi a severe disadvantage because Kakashi doresn't have a jutsu in his arsenal that can penetrate Susanoo, and Sasuke can just use his Susanoo arrows which Kakashi can't dodge.Now some people are going to say Kakashi can just use Kamui, but after three or for Susanoo arrows are Kamui away kakashi is done for.Not to mention Sasuke can shoot amaterasu from that black orb.Amaterasu isn't a projectile which I think the OP doesn't understand.Amaterasu appears where ever the users is looking;Meaning, if Sasuke is looking at Kakashi, Amaterasu will appear on Kakshi.So Kakashi can't Kamui Amaterasu away unless he uses Kamui on himself which Kakashi hasn't shown the ability to do.

As for Kakashi versus Itachi,read my explanation on why Kakashi can't beat Sasuke, then turn it up to 11.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

Kakashi doesn't have much of a chance against either opponont.Sasuke pretty much uses Susanoo all the time now, which put Kakashi a severe disadvantage because Kakashi doresn't have a jutsu in his arsenal that can penetrate Susanoo, and Sasuke can just use his Susanoo arrows which Kakashi can't dodge.Now some people are going to say Kakashi can just use Kamui, but after three or for Susanoo arrows are Kamui away kakashi is done for.Not to mention Sasuke can shoot amaterasu from that black orb.Amaterasu isn't a projectile which I think the OP doesn't understand.Amaterasu appears where ever the users is looking;Meaning, if Sasuke is looking at Kakashi, Amaterasu will appear on Kakshi.So Kakashi can't Kamui Amaterasu away unless he uses Kamui on himself which Kakashi hasn't shown the ability to do.

As for Kakashi versus Itachi,read my explanation on why Kakashi can't beat Sasuke, then turn it up to 11.

See....this is what ticks me off. To say you think itachi or sasuke has a better chance at winning is understandable but to say kakashi doesn't have much of a chance is just foolish. Everyone knows him, even ninjas that has never seen him. Wanna know why that is? Because he's feared and respected for his power.

As for susanoo with blaze release...if he can kamui the arrows, then goodbye susanoo.

 

[CDT23]

Master of genjutsu... he has proven to even cast it without the opponent realizing and totally hiding it from the 5 senses of the opponent... it would be a neck to neck fight till kakashi is in the open... then its pretty much over. No one can beat itachi without coming out to face him... and I can say from past fights only kabuto has fought him long enough to prove this, and even he fell in battle. Anyways my point is that genjutsu alone would be kakashis down fall.

 

[CDT23]

See....this is what ticks me off. To say you think itachi or sasuke has a better chance at winning is understandable but to say kakashi doesn't have much of a chance is just foolish. Everyone knows him, even ninjas that has never seen him. Wanna know why that is? Because he's feared and respected for his power.

As for susanoo with blaze release...if he can kamui the arrows, then goodbye susanoo.

He is respected... even nagato had doubts. But not because he is powerful... now I'm not saying he is weak but I think he is a force to be reckoned with is because his fighting strategy is by far one of the best. I would say top 3.

 

[Gregsta]

Itachi wins, your theories are far fetched and kamui would not take down susanoo, it's not really a physical object, I think of it more as formation of chakra. Also stop saying Itachi sick this and that, we should be talking about a full health Itachi. Also you completely forgot about Izanami and Inanagi, if Itachi feels like he can't win he can resort to that. If Itachi thinks he has the slightest chance of losing there's nothing to stop him from pulling out susanno, the yata mirror and the sword and just one shotting Kakashi. We never saw him do that because we never see him fighting seriously against someone with the intention to kill. Kamui takes time to charge up and you also have to be looking at where you want to use it, if Kakashi looks at Itachi he will be trapped in genjutsu. Kakashi also seems to use up a lot of chakra, he can't draw out a battle for too long, Itachi seems better at conserving chakra and will win a prolonged fight because of that. Oh and amaterasu will fry Kakashi, he can't kamui a wall of eternal flames away, he can only use it 3 or 4 times maybe.

 

[shelke]

While you bring compelling points, I can't Kakashi winning against either one of them. kakashi has three major disadvantages:

- Low Stamina.
- Low Chakra reserves, and
- He will never be able to fully harness the power of Sharingen. It's beyond his ability by default.

Kamui is not the answer to everything.

1: During his encounter with Sasuke, he was barely able to avoid the arrow with Kamui:

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And the over-usage kills him. It also doesn't help his case that Sasuke can spam arrows even more so than Iatchi given that EMS poses no stress on the body for creating sussano and using amatersu:

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- Painful erection of sussano. Sasuke mentions that his whole being was in pain. In EMS form, he erects a level four Sussano without any pain at all:

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and uses Amatersu with ease.

It means that he can utilize all abilities of MS without any stress factor and much less chakra consumption. Kakashi on the other hand would be able to use Kamiu 3, maybe four times tops as during pein fight the second time, it killed him. While he has improved since then, I can't see him over-using this ability as he will still end up using more Chakra as he's not an Uchiha.

2: While Itachi has lower stamina than kakashi, his Chakra reserves are obviously higher, as it is a know fact that the uchiha clan have a very high Chakra reserve:

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Which means both Itachi and Sasuke can over-use their blood-line abilities with ease and with better chara consumption due to the DNA factor and having natural, higher chakra reserves. Sasuke also has a much much better stamina than Kakashi and he seems more resilient as well.

3: He cannot Kamui a level four sussano with Sasuke or even the one Itachi uses because it is too big. Gazo head by comparison is much much smaller, and not to mention he wanted to take out its neck first.

4: Then we have amatersu. It's instant and goes where ever the eye goes. It burns through Chakra as well. I can't see how Kakashi will dodge this when Raikage had to resort to body flicker rather than raw speed to dodge and barely managed by only a few centimeter.

Naruto 463 - Read Naruto 463 Online - Page 12
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Kakashi is just not fast enough to dodge this.

Then comes the intelligence factor as well. All three people are extremely intelligent. So there is no edge to anyone's analytical abilities here. It all boils down to how they use their stamina, chakra, abilities etc. I am sorry, but EMS Sasuke just...destroys Kakashi, and Itachi does it with ease as well.

 

[The Demonic Kazekage]

good explanation

 

[true enigma]

Kakashis chakra reserves and powerfull tech is just too low... They both take this one from him. Itachi low to mid diff and sasuke mid to high.