[Discussion] Things you would've done differently/Would do

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Note: All links I provide are when I was a horrible horrible noob at fanfiction, but the story is their and you'll get the jist of it, no matter how awful it's written.



The topic here is what would you have done differently in Naruto and what would you add? Here's what I would've done.





-Not kill Sasori, Hidan, or Kakuzu in their debut arcs. All three of them were trolled. Kishi could've showcased Sakura, Shikamaru, and Naruto's new move without killing them. With this, I would've given both Hidan and Kakuzu a backstory.

Kakuzu's would be this:

Summary

He captures hearts to replace his broken one. He had a lover so many years ago who died via a group of shinobi comprised of ninja from different villages. She was also the daughter of a rice guy who placed the bounty on her because he was in a tough spot. Kakuzu kills him afterwards and in doing so, grows a little obsession with money. Then at her grave Tobi/Madara/Masked Man tells him about a little thing going on in the rain village aka Akatsuki.

Hidan's would be this:

Summary

Hidan grows up in an extremely rough childhood, but his father is very caring and protective of him. Ruthless, but protective. Hidan doesn't understand religion. Later, his mom dies and gives him the necklace. Years later, Hidan kills a teenager who picks on him. He goes insane over enjoyment and thinks he's a monster. He gets over it and one day he returns home to find his dad dying. He grabs his dad's scythe and goes after the killer. Hidan gets upset and curses God. He says he'll make his own religion and his God is named after his father, Jashin. He gets struck by lightening and after a quick shock, sees a masked man attaching the guy who killed Hidan's dad. Hidan finishes the guy off and has a chat with his future teammate.

As for Sasori, just keep him alive, but have him the first to die. Let him capture his assigened beast and die later on.

-Keep Tobi as Madara and make Madara, more humane. Give Tobi a reason for his "peace." This also ties in Izuna, the EMS, and Zetsu.

His past, in addition to what we know with Harshirama:

Summary: Read it.​




-Give Kisame more pressure as a ninja to fully believe the world is lies. This also provides Fuguki, the former wielder of Samehada, a backstory and makes deepens the trust between Madara/Kiame.

What I'd add:

Summary

Kisame is troubled with lies, but he's a normal guy. It takes place before he gets Samahada, just a little. He has a lover who is the daughter of the current of Samahada. He's a mosnter who even the sword dislikes, but Kisame isn't. Kisame thinks he is one though. After his lover is threatened by Fuguki, Kisame attack him and Samahada joins Kisame and betrays his master. After a fight, Fuguki kills his own daughter and Kisame brutally kills Fuguki, so much that Madara himself has to calm him down. This also ties in with Madara's backstory I've given him.




-Made Konan and Yahiko kiss during the scene they almost did. Should've happened. To my memory, it didn't.

-Made Kimimaro talk, fight, and then be free against Jugo. This would give Kimimaro closure, more screentime in the war (Aswell as Jugo), and give Jugo closure aswell.

-Made the Seven Swordsmen fight SEEN. Kishi, the hell? I would've had them fight for like a whole chapter. Have them all do a super awesome water dragon/monster combo. The last one I'd have seal is Mangetsu, since he mastered all of the swords. I'd have Suigetsu find his way to the battlefield and Mangetsu would pass the torch to him after they go at it. This gives these two demons some closure, aswell as fufulling Suigetsu's dream since all swords are there.

-Made Kabuto summon Jiraiya against Sasuke/Itachi and then after a good fight, Kabuto would enter Dragon Sage mode.

-Gave Chiyo, Sasori, Sai's bro, Kakuzu, and some more more screentime in the war. They'd still die/get freed in the same fashion, but more screen time. I'd also have them each atleast kill someone with a name, someone we know, someone we like, like Kankuro or Mifune.

-Made Hinata die during Pain's invasion. Seriosuly, she'd get brought back anyways. Why not kill her? I'd also make Kakashi's fight against Pain a little longer.

-Give all females way more screentime and give Sakura genjutsu. She has the skills, as said in early Part 1. I'd enlarge that ability. I'd give Tenten chakra strings and the affinity lightening. She's be someone to reckon with then. I'd give Ino all her moves in the UN game series. Flowers, poison, and explosions?! FTW.

-Bring back Gaara's fangirls in the first arc of Shippuden.

-Show the Black Zetsu vs Mei fight in full. What the hell happened Kishi? I want to se Mei and Zetsu kick ass. I'd have Zetsu kill Chojoro, or whatever his name is.

-Give Danzo more screentime inbetween his debut in early Shippuden and his death. I'd also make him use Inzangi more effectivly. I'd literally have Sasuke win within an inch of his life.

-Not have White Zetsu get owned by Sasuke when he debuts EMS. He might still be okay, but seriously....I want to see Zetsu's power.

-To add onto earlier, I'd have the 7 swordsmen tear a new a-hole into the army. They are feared in many countries. Seriously, I'd have maybe Guy die against them to protect Lee. Eigth gate! Just saying.

-Not have the Zetsu's assault on the Shinobi at night happen the first night. War goes onto for a weeks, not days Kishi......You have time. Capitalize on it.

-Make Neji die protecting Hinata, and also give him and Tenten more of a romantice relationship.

-Have Kakashi and Mei have a kid, and Darui be their homie/friend. If Guy doesn't die, he can join. Seriously, imagine the team of Kakashi, Mei, and Darui. Team badass/sexy/cool. Their (Mei+Kakashi) child would be a ripped Jesus with cooler hair and a mask. You'd walk into their little village and, even though you don't want to say it, you'd say I'd want to f--- that baby. (Joke ripped from Tosh)

-Give Neji more screentime in Shippuden and some cool new moves, since he is like the master of the Byuakugan. As I said earlier, have him die protecting Hinata. It can still happen. He dies via Sasuke and before he dies, he says he's proud to be a Hyuuga, related to Hinata, a member of team Guy, and that he loves Tenten.

-Show Rin's death in a flashback when Kakashi visits Obito's grave. It can still happen.

-Make the flashback of Madara vs the 1st be the longest OP amazing battle in Naruto, ever. It deserves so much.

-Make Nagato/Itachi vs Bee/Naruto and later/Itachi, much longer.

-I wouldn't have had Naruto or Sasuke join the war so damn fast.

-Made Konan and Kisame's last arc apparent in the anime opening instead of stupid dancing, although it's an awesome opening.

-Make Anbu more kickass. They are always dying and not showing alot of stuff. Let them die, but show them kicking ass. Seriously.-This addition to my list was inspired by al3xsmith13.


Sorry for the long read. All I have for now.​
 
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Would of had itachi fake his dearh genjutsu style and get a cure somehow to come and fight alive since he's back anyway. I would display the so6p power and show some of the madara vs 1st fight in the beginning to get some type of idea of their power. Also make naruto not so goofy and give him and sasuke a new outfit now, its getting old. Plus display shisui, izuna and tobiramas power more.
 

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u put alot of effort into this. +rep

Thank you!

Would of had itachi fake his dearh genjutsu style and get a cure somehow to come and fight alive since he's back anyway. I would display the so6p power and show some of the madara vs 1st fight in the beginning to get some type of idea of their power. Also make naruto not so goofy and give him and sasuke a new outfit now, its getting old. Plus display shisui, izuna and tobiramas power more.

Agree on all, except Itachi. His death should remain untouched IMO, but awesome ideas, especially the Madara part. Imagine watching the first episode of those two brutes and then ending the overall series with Naruto vs Sasuke, fight wise.
 

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I agree with most of the stuff you would have changed, except giving Ten-Ten lightning and a few other small things. None of the Konoha 11 other than Naruto and Sasuke have any elements to my knowledge and giving one an element would throw out that weird balance.

As to what I would change...hm I guess I would like to see how Itachi found Tobi/Madara (whoever he is) in the village when no one else knew he was there. I would also have some way for the previous Hokages to be summoned, just so that Naruto could fight his father. I think that would be an epic battle.
 

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I agree with most of the stuff you would have changed, except giving Ten-Ten lightning and a few other small things. None of the Konoha 11 other than Naruto and Sasuke have any elements to my knowledge and giving one an element would throw out that weird balance.

As to what I would change...hm I guess I would like to see how Itachi found Tobi/Madara (whoever he is) in the village when no one else knew he was there. I would also have some way for the previous Hokages to be summoned, just so that Naruto could fight his father. I think that would be an epic battle.

I agree, now that you mention it (About the elements), but I think she needs something. Maybe not chakra strings, since it's Kankuros, but who knows.

Same here. That'd be awesome.

I'd love if Kiba would bring back his double headed fang over fang. I knew he had it in filler in Shippuden, but I mean in actual canon.
 

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I agree, now that you mention it (About the elements), but I think she needs something. Maybe not chakra strings, since it's Kankuros, but who knows.

Same here. That'd be awesome.

I'd love if Kiba would bring back his double headed fang over fang. I knew he had it in filler in Shippuden, but I mean in actual canon.

Yeah anything really showing the rest of Naruto's peers would be good. They get so little screen time.
 

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Yeah anything really showing the rest of Naruto's peers would be good. They get so little screen time.

I know and that's why Part 1 is so much better in that aspect. Look at the chunin exams. Now that was an arc.
 

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You should start writing your own manga, you are very good at it ... :)
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I know and that's why Part 1 is so much better in that aspect. Look at the chunin exams. Now that was an arc.

Yeah I think Kishi is just trying to do too much too fast. He's rushing things that deserve more story time.
 

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You should start writing your own manga, you are very good at it ... :)
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Thanks xd

I write fanfictions and inbetween my fanfics, I do write (Not post) my own idea for a manga/comic/show.

Yeah I think Kishi is just trying to do too much too fast. He's rushing things that deserve more story time.

This war is the best example of a massive rush. I don't understand why.
 

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I agree with you on the females part Jack. They have so much potential that is wasted.

-My idea would have been to have Sakura encounter Edo Chiyo, since the two seemed to have bonded during their fight with Sasori and both were constantly looking out for each other. Chiyo probably could have gave her some advice on the whole Sasuke situation and give her closure, since her death was somewhat abrupt.

-Another idea, would be to have Madara use some of his EMS abilities, as all he is using is Mokuton.

-Bring back Taijutsu battles, instead of the usual overpowering ninjutsu.

-Have Hinata and Sakura either fight side-by side or sacrifice themselves to save Naruto. I mean they both care (and yes Sakura does care about Naruto "tough love) about him, so why not fight for his life if he's ever in danger. Or they can just fight together, the two strongest females of the Konoha 11. It would be awesome seeming them as older, more powerful kunoichi fighting side by side or even against each other.

That's all I got ^^
 

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I agree with every point.
How you put a lot effort in to this.
 

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I agree with every point.
How you put a lot effort in to this.

Thanks boss! :cool:

I agree with you on the females part Jack. They have so much potential that is wasted.

-My idea would have been to have Sakura encounter Edo Chiyo, since the two seemed to have bonded during their fight with Sasori and both were constantly looking out for each other. Chiyo probably could have gave her some advice on the whole Sasuke situation and give her closure, since her death was somewhat abrupt.

-Another idea, would be to have Madara use some of his EMS abilities, as all he is using is Mokuton.

-Bring back Taijutsu battles, instead of the usual overpowering ninjutsu.

-Have Hinata and Sakura either fight side-by side or sacrifice themselves to save Naruto. I mean they both care (and yes Sakura does care about Naruto "tough love) about him, so why not fight for his life if he's ever in danger. Or they can just fight together, the two strongest females of the Konoha 11. It would be awesome seeming them as older, more powerful kunoichi fighting side by side or even against each other.

That's all I got ^^



Oh my God, I forgot Madara's EMS. I really wish he'd use that. Have him due EMS for atleast 2 chapters before going all "Nagato".

Nice part on the Sakura/Chiyo. It'd give Chiyo a good end and it'd give Sakura something to do in the war before she went with everyone to join Naruto. I love it.

Taijutsu is lacking majorly. Naruto needs to have a couple pannels of pure punching/defending. Adds more depth to the fight.

Maybe. I can easily see it happening since they love Naruto and they can be friends. I'd make them do some awesome team attack against Tobi and majorly damage him, but he'd be okay and kill them. That would show how everyone really cares about Naruto and that they can protect him too.

If we had the series, the females would be even and deadley, just like they are on Avatar. I mean come on, compare Korra to Sakura. Both are similar and awesome, but Korra gets screentime. Some might say, Korra is a main character, but Sakura is too, but even girls like Suki who is more of supporting type is more bad ass/seen as powerful than Sakura. Naruto girls have all the power, but no screentime. Imagine if Anko had screentime. Orochimaru-type female FTW.
 

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Thanks boss! :cool:





Oh my God, I forgot Madara's EMS. I really wish he'd use that. Have him due EMS for atleast 2 chapters before going all "Nagato".

Nice part on the Sakura/Chiyo. It'd give Chiyo a good end and it'd give Sakura something to do in the war before she went with everyone to join Naruto. I love it.

Taijutsu is lacking majorly. Naruto needs to have a couple pannels of pure punching/defending. Adds more depth to the fight.

Maybe. I can easily see it happening since they love Naruto and they can be friends. I'd make them do some awesome team attack against Tobi and majorly damage him, but he'd be okay and kill them. That would show how everyone really cares about Naruto and that they can protect him too.

If we had the series, the females would be even and deadley, just like they are on Avatar. I mean come on, compare Korra to Sakura. Both are similar and awesome, but Korra gets screentime. Some might say, Korra is a main character, but Sakura is too, but even girls like Suki who is more of supporting type is more bad ass/seen as powerful than Sakura. Naruto girls have all the power, but no screentime. Imagine if Anko had screentime. Orochimaru-type female FTW.

Avatar females are just plain badass and that's why I love them. Sakura is one of the main characters and yet she barely has any screentime or bad ass moments at all. Hopefully Anko does get some kind of part to play in the later chapters. However, with Kishi's track record I doubt we'll see that happen. I was surprised when he actually let Tsunade fight Madara, but he'll find a way to troll her in the end.

If only we did have the series though it would be awesome. We need to make our own comic book/manga xd
 

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Avatar females are just plain badass and that's why I love them. Sakura is one of the main characters and yet she barely has any screentime or bad ass moments at all. Hopefully Anko does get some kind of part to play in the later chapters. However, with Kishi's track record I doubt we'll see that happen. I was surprised when he actually let Tsunade fight Madara, but he'll find a way to troll her in the end.

If only we did have the series though it would be awesome. We need to make our own comic book/manga xd

Agreed 100%

Sakura has screentime, but Kishi made her annoying from crying all the time. She now has power and yet we don't see her alot anymore. WTF moment there.

Anko is dead to me, but she might pull an upset. I'd fanboy out. I really want Mei to step up. Kishi trolled her VS Black Zetsu by not showing it via rushing the war.

Seriously, Onoki has been a boss the entire war. Gaara has been on the frontline saving everyone and fighting former kages. A and Tsunade encounted Bee/Naruto. Also, A is pure beast who stole the Summit Arc IMO, aswell as fighting Madara in general. Tsunade did the same recently. What has Mei done? I was angry when they showed the panel after Madara summoned the clones and they had the Kage close up. Everyone was in shock/dirty/war damaged, but Mei. She looked expressionless. I lol'd, but I'm like really Kishi? Really?


Exactly! In my own story/manga deal I have my main characters being a guy, the guy's brother, and a girl. I'm obviously not going into great detail, but she is scary strong. Also, the guy's brother is formally evil and his main "guard/partener" is a female. His best friends are female (I had to sneak TyZula in there xd). So, females are a main component. Not overbearing, but even. We would own. Comics do it right too. Wonder Woman has been in the rank of Batman/Superman for many many years. She was the first female hero. Now look at Batgirl, Spoiler, Batwoman, Catwoman, Starfire, Raven, Terra, Cheshire, Harley, Ivy, Talia, etc....All hot, but deadly and all main components.

Seriously, Y U SUK AT WOMEN AND SCEENTIME KISHI?
 

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Agreed 100%

Sakura has screentime, but Kishi made her annoying from crying all the time. She now has power and yet we don't see her alot anymore. WTF moment there.

Anko is dead to me, but she might pull an upset. I'd fanboy out. I really want Mei to step up. Kishi trolled her VS Black Zetsu by not showing it via rushing the war.

Seriously, Onoki has been a boss the entire war. Gaara has been on the frontline saving everyone and fighting former kages. A and Tsunade encounted Bee/Naruto. Also, A is pure beast who stole the Summit Arc IMO, aswell as fighting Madara in general. Tsunade did the same recently. What has Mei done? I was angry when they showed the panel after Madara summoned the clones and they had the Kage close up. Everyone was in shock/dirty/war damaged, but Mei. She looked expressionless. I lol'd, but I'm like really Kishi? Really?


Exactly! In my own story/manga deal I have my main characters being a guy, the guy's brother, and a girl. I'm obviously not going into great detail, but she is scary strong. Also, the guy's brother is formally evil and his main "guard/partener" is a female. His best friends are female (I had to sneak TyZula in there xd). So, females are a main component. Not overbearing, but even. We would own. Comics do it right too. Wonder Woman has been in the rank of Batman/Superman for many many years. She was the first female hero. Now look at Batgirl, Spoiler, Batwoman, Catwoman, Starfire, Raven, Terra, Cheshire, Harley, Ivy, Talia, etc....All hot, but deadly and all main components.

Seriously, Y U SUK AT WOMEN AND SCEENTIME KISHI?

I always thought that Mei didn't show much emotion at that moment, because she was A BOSS xd

I remember in the episode when she fought Sasuke, he was unleashing his Sussano to threaten Mei and her expression was this: -_-. Not this: :O Or this: :( Just this: -_-. The 'ol I don't give a **** look.

But Mei has been more support ninja if anything. I mean did you think Kishi would actually have two females fighting at once. That would be horrifying to him. I have to give it to Mei though, she's pretty fast with her water jutsus. She was able to neutralize Madara's fire jutsu, which is incredibly powerful, on her own, and then instantly follow up with a Water Dragon Jutsu to knock him in the air. The best part is she hasn't even shown her proficiency with her Earth and Fire elements. Plus she may have more variations of her Lava Release. Her Boil Release hasn't even come into play in this battle yet. So I feel as though she has a lot more to show, in the coming chapters, if Kishi allows it however.

Kishi trolled Black Zetsu too. B. Zetsu was going on about "I am the Earth" or something like that and then he just gets slashed down by Chojuro in one panel. The same kid who was so awkward and shy, is now confident and fearless. I would have liked to see that character development in a proper battle, but Kishi decided to have Naruto come back early when he should have waited. But it's his manga so he can do whatever he wants.

DC females are the best aren't they :)

You're doing a manga too? Nice ^^. Have you gotten someone to draw it or do you draw it yourself?
 

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There's a few things I would change, but I'm kinda too afraid to tell them because even if this thread's all about it, I'm gonna get spammed and flooded with flame messages.
 

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There's a few things I would change, but I'm kinda too afraid to tell them because even if this thread's all about it, I'm gonna get spammed and flooded with flame messages.
Post them. I really want to here it. Screw the others.

I always thought that Mei didn't show much emotion at that moment, because she was A BOSS xd

I remember in the episode when she fought Sasuke, he was unleashing his Sussano to threaten Mei and her expression was this: -_-. Not this: :O Or this: :( Just this: -_-. The 'ol I don't give a **** look.

But Mei has been more support ninja if anything. I mean did you think Kishi would actually have two females fighting at once. That would be horrifying to him. I have to give it to Mei though, she's pretty fast with her water jutsus. She was able to neutralize Madara's fire jutsu, which is incredibly powerful, on her own, and then instantly follow up with a Water Dragon Jutsu to knock him in the air. The best part is she hasn't even shown her proficiency with her Earth and Fire elements. Plus she may have more variations of her Lava Release. Her Boil Release hasn't even come into play in this battle yet. So I feel as though she has a lot more to show, in the coming chapters, if Kishi allows it however.

Kishi trolled Black Zetsu too. B. Zetsu was going on about "I am the Earth" or something like that and then he just gets slashed down by Chojuro in one panel. The same kid who was so awkward and shy, is now confident and fearless. I would have liked to see that character development in a proper battle, but Kishi decided to have Naruto come back early when he should have waited. But it's his manga so he can do whatever he wants.

DC females are the best aren't they :)

You're doing a manga too? Nice ^^. Have you gotten someone to draw it or do you draw it yourself?

Maybe, but I just wish she had some dirt on her since it is a war. I realy expect her to do some massive damage soon, since she does have a vast array of elements like you said.

I know right! I am the land! got owned by a sword. Chojuro needed some deveopment. Maybe have Mei almost get hurt and then he goes nuts. Naruto coming back was a mistake, taking out the third Raikage, Kimimaro, and some others.

Yes, yes they are.

Yeah, but I have a very rought story. It's in the earliest of earliest of earliest of levels xd No drawing, just writing so far.
 
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