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1. People over exaggerate how many times the dead have been revived in this series (actually revived not edo tensei). They say stuff like, "Kishi is too scared to kill off major characters". Consider this: Excluding Madara's revival (which was obviously a major part of the plot), revival has only happened 2 times in the series! The first was with Gaara and the 2nd time was when Nagato used rinne tensei! That first time really shouldn't even count for much since only one person was revived (plus that arc was called the kazekage rescue arc. It would have therefore been a fail for the kazekage to stay dead). Now compare these two times with the amount of times that someone has died in part 2. Asuma died. Did Kishi revive him? No! Jiraiya died. Did Kishi revive him? No! Neji, Shikaku and Inoichi died. Did Kishi revive them? No! (And he had the chance to do so when Obito was about to do it). Bee is dead and nobody has even mentioned him! Now Guy is about to die, and it is most likely that nobody will revive him! Don't you see? Those two little revivals pale in comparison to the number of deaths. Even if you say that it balances out because Nagato revived a lot of people, you must remember that only 2 relevant people (Kakashi and Shizune) actually died during Pain's invasion (this is if you even count Shizune as relevant). Everyone else just consisted of random shinobis who would have had absolutely no effect on the plot whatsoever regardless of whether or not they stayed dead! Therefore, these people's revival shouldn't really matter to you or count that much! In summation, you people need to stop acting like this has been DBZ and like people have been coming back to life every 5 seconds! You are over exaggerating! Kishi has clearly shown that he can and does kill major characters!
2. People say that Kakashi spams Kamui and suffers no consequence. He does not spam kamui and he does suffer consequence! He first used it in that fight with Deidara. He used it 3 times that day and got hospitalized. He did not use it again until the invasion of pain arc! He used it twice in his battle against asura path and then he died due to chakara exhaustion! He freaking died! I'd call that a consequence. He used it some days or weeks later to warp Sasuke's arrows. This was just one time and he said he felt weakened! All of these 3 events occurred at fairly substantial time intervals away from eachother! Kakashi also used it very few times during these events! It really wasn't until a few days after the 5 kage summit arc when Kakashi started using Kamui substantially. Furthermore, you have to think chronologically. This substantial usage has been taking place in the time span of only this one night! You people act like he has been using it for days on end! Something that you've only been substantially using for one night can not be considered as being spammed! Madara and the juubi are the opponents after all. Therefore this night counts as a special occasion where substantial usage is necessary. During this one night, Kakashi has had multiple boosts with Kurama's chakara, thus making substantial usage even more feasible. Even with these boosts, Kakashi just stated today that he is practically blind at this point! In summation, you people should stop acting like Kakashi has been spamming Kamui like Obito!
3. People think that Naruto has spammed Kurama. This is false! Naruto only asked Kurama for chakara 4 times in part 1 (when Jiraiya pushed him off a cliff, when fighting Neji, when fighting Gaara and when confronted by Itachi and Kisame). KCM doesn't count as using Kurama because Naruto legitimately defeated Kurama in battle and earned that chakara (which he could use at his own will regardless of Kurama's will). Therefore, KCM is Naruto's power and not Kurama's. That angry kyuubi state that he couldn't control doesn't count as Naruto using Kurama because Naruto never went into that state at will. Kurama simply forced his chakara onto Naruto whenever Naruto was physically or mentally unstable. Therefore, that doesn't count as Naruto using Kurama. That is more like Kurama using Naruto. Naruto didn't really start using Kurama until he got bijuu mode. People say that he spams this, but you must once again think about it in manga time. He has only had it for this one night and for this one battle in manga time! This means that he basically just got it! How can you have spammed something that you just got? This may seem shocking, but... If you think about it logically and chronologically, Naruto has really only used Kurama just a little more than Guy has opened the 8th gate of death (which he has only done this once)! In summation: You people really over exaggerate how much Naruto uses Kurama. He only used him 4 times in part 1 and he didn't use him again for years until this one night when he got bijuu mode!
I have more things to talk about, but I am hungry now. I'll probably make a part 2 to this thread later.
2. People say that Kakashi spams Kamui and suffers no consequence. He does not spam kamui and he does suffer consequence! He first used it in that fight with Deidara. He used it 3 times that day and got hospitalized. He did not use it again until the invasion of pain arc! He used it twice in his battle against asura path and then he died due to chakara exhaustion! He freaking died! I'd call that a consequence. He used it some days or weeks later to warp Sasuke's arrows. This was just one time and he said he felt weakened! All of these 3 events occurred at fairly substantial time intervals away from eachother! Kakashi also used it very few times during these events! It really wasn't until a few days after the 5 kage summit arc when Kakashi started using Kamui substantially. Furthermore, you have to think chronologically. This substantial usage has been taking place in the time span of only this one night! You people act like he has been using it for days on end! Something that you've only been substantially using for one night can not be considered as being spammed! Madara and the juubi are the opponents after all. Therefore this night counts as a special occasion where substantial usage is necessary. During this one night, Kakashi has had multiple boosts with Kurama's chakara, thus making substantial usage even more feasible. Even with these boosts, Kakashi just stated today that he is practically blind at this point! In summation, you people should stop acting like Kakashi has been spamming Kamui like Obito!
3. People think that Naruto has spammed Kurama. This is false! Naruto only asked Kurama for chakara 4 times in part 1 (when Jiraiya pushed him off a cliff, when fighting Neji, when fighting Gaara and when confronted by Itachi and Kisame). KCM doesn't count as using Kurama because Naruto legitimately defeated Kurama in battle and earned that chakara (which he could use at his own will regardless of Kurama's will). Therefore, KCM is Naruto's power and not Kurama's. That angry kyuubi state that he couldn't control doesn't count as Naruto using Kurama because Naruto never went into that state at will. Kurama simply forced his chakara onto Naruto whenever Naruto was physically or mentally unstable. Therefore, that doesn't count as Naruto using Kurama. That is more like Kurama using Naruto. Naruto didn't really start using Kurama until he got bijuu mode. People say that he spams this, but you must once again think about it in manga time. He has only had it for this one night and for this one battle in manga time! This means that he basically just got it! How can you have spammed something that you just got? This may seem shocking, but... If you think about it logically and chronologically, Naruto has really only used Kurama just a little more than Guy has opened the 8th gate of death (which he has only done this once)! In summation: You people really over exaggerate how much Naruto uses Kurama. He only used him 4 times in part 1 and he didn't use him again for years until this one night when he got bijuu mode!
I have more things to talk about, but I am hungry now. I'll probably make a part 2 to this thread later.
