They weren't scared of the clan..but instead..

[KingHashirama]

The uchiha clan revolution was going to be a big historic event. IT was going to be a result of the incompetence of Hiruzen/Co's reign after Minato.

And we know that the council was quite fearful of the Uchiha clan's revolution, hence why the plan to take them out at night was made. But what they were scared of wasn't the Uchiha clan it self. But the fact that many shinobi would've joined the uchiha clan.

Lets look at the revolution, from the Uchiha's side:

- Were getting the blame of the terrorist attack on the village. Even though they were their before the peasants like Sarutobi and Shimura clan.

- Segregated to a corner

- Founding clan with no political power what so ever.

- Fought for the village in 3 wars, still blamed and no political power

- Danzo attacking uchiha for Sharingan (Shisui being one of them)

It was basically the whole Native American scenario (not literally, but in the essential idea). Indians lived on the land before the Europeans.. but hardly had any political power. Some were even put down, because the colonists didn't want to share any political power. So were those Native Americans traitors to the country, or asking for their rights?

^^^ Though some of you might see this as an extreme example.. however, it is comparable to the situation of the Uchiha clan.


Uchiha goals:

- Gain political power


Fan Misconception:

- Wanted to attack the village itself, and cause destruction. :yeah:

BACK TO TOPIC!​

So if the revolution was to happen, do you really believe Konoha shinobi, who were friends with the Uchiha, wouldn't hear them out? And when they did, do some of you really believe they wouldn't help them?

If the Uchiha wanted to attack the village, nothing was stopping them from assassinating the elders or other jounin ninja. Their objective wasn't attack the village, but reform the village.


For the ones who will try to put the blame on Tobirama, i must let you know that i would require statements where it shows that uchiha had a problem with Tobirama. Tobirama didn't blindly hate them... he was simply cautious... big difference compared to what Hiruzen and Co. did.

 

[iNotorious]

The uchiha clan revolution was going to be a big historic event. IT was going to be a result of the incompetence of Hiruzen/Co's reign after Minato.

And we know that the council was quite fearful of the Uchiha clan's revolution, hence why the plan to take them out at night was made. But what they were scared of wasn't the Uchiha clan it self. But the fact that many shinobi would've joined the uchiha clan.

Lets look at the revolution, from the Uchiha's side:

- Were getting the blame of the terrorist attack on the village. Even though they were their before the peasants like Sarutobi and Shimura clan.

- Segregated to a corner

- Founding clan with no political power what so ever.

- Fought for the village in 3 wars, still blamed and no political power

- Danzo attacking uchiha for Sharingan (Shisui being one of them)

It was basically the whole Native American scenario (not literally, but in the essential idea). Indians lived on the land before the Europeans.. but hardly had any political power. Some were even put down, because the colonists didn't want to share any political power. So were those Native Americans traitors to the country, or asking for their rights?

^^^ Though some of you might see this as an extreme example.. however, it is comparable to the situation of the Uchiha clan.


Uchiha goals:

- Gain political power


Fan Misconception:

- Wanted to attack the village itself, and cause destruction. :yeah:

BACK TO TOPIC!​

So if the revolution was to happen, do you really believe Konoha shinobi, who were friends with the Uchiha, wouldn't hear them out? And when they did, do some of you really believe they wouldn't help them?

If the Uchiha wanted to attack the village, nothing was stopping them from assassinating the elders or other jounin ninja. Their objective wasn't attack the village, but reform the village.


For the ones who will try to put the blame on Tobirama, i must let you know that i would require statements where it shows that uchiha had a problem with Tobirama. Tobirama didn't blindly hate them... he was simply cautious... big difference compared to what Hiruzen and Co. did.

Tobirama was just hitler.

 

[Child Of The Great Empire]

Well, to some extent it was Tobirama's fault. Still, good thread!

 

[KingHashirama]

Tobirama was just hitler.

naye brah. Only Hitler in the manga is Danzo, and even he failed TROLOLO

My boy Tobirama about preserving them dreams, whether you are an Uchiha or not.

 

[iNotorious]

Well, to some extent it was Tobirama's fault. Still, good thread!

I agree also that BS technique of ET.

naye brah. Only Hitler in the manga is Danzo, and even he failed TROLOLO

My boy Tobirama about preserving them dreams, whether you are an Uchiha or not.

Well at least he tried right? :I!

He was kind of racist against the uchihas. I wonder if he did have an uchiha girlfriend or crush :I

 

[KingHashirama]

I agree also that BS technique of ET.



Well at least he tried right? :I!

He was kind of racist against the uchihas. I wonder if he did have an uchiha girlfriend or crush :I

I believe he was just more "cautious", due to Madara.

He probably would've done the same with Shimura clan , if he had seen Danzo and all the BS he did lol.

 

[The Necromancer]

Who's to say the majority of clans didn't also believe the Uchiha to be blamed? They were all conveniently out of the village during the Kyuubi "attack" (Which i would like to point out, has never been explained. Thanks for nothing kishi.) while the rest of the clans fought to defend the village.

I doubt 100% of the clans would have sided with the Uchiha, and any less than 100% would have led to a Civil War and would have destabilized Konoha's power which would have left them open for invasion. What happened historically is literally the only way Konoha could have survived, and it did.

 

[iNotorious]

I believe he was just more "cautious", due to Madara.

He probably would've done the same with Shimura clan , if he had seen Danzo and all the BS he did lol.

Madara and his clan overall. And yea he was cautious very cautious and it seemed like they were laboratory rats :I

 

[HiddenSound]

That right?
I'll just say this. War was inevitable. Danzō, Hiruzen, Shisui, the Elders, and Itachi knew there'd be war. Their view > your silly optimism.

 

[KingHashirama]

Who's to say the majority of clans didn't also believe the Uchiha to be blamed? They were all conveniently out of the village during the Kyuubi "attack" (Which i would like to point out, has never been explained. Thanks for nothing kishi.) while the rest of the clans fought to defend the village.

I doubt 100% of the clans would have sided with the Uchiha, and any less than 100% would have led to a Civil War and would have destabilized Konoha's power which would have left them open for invasion. What happened historically is literally the only way Konoha could have survived, and it did.

Because no one besides the Council spoke out against Uchiha. o-o. And they were sent probably by Hiruzen. Also, we never saw Shimura clan. or the whole Sarutobi clan..

Hiruzen would've been forced to make a treaty.... Uchiha weren't some bloodlusted hounds lol. Do you think they didn't understand they would also be killed in case of a civil war?

However, notice that Danzo states whether the civil war occurs or NOT , uchiha must be put down... And Itachi's naive ass feel into it (Though i don't blame him, since he was only a kid back then.)

Civil war can only occur if 2 sides don't come to a treaty. The fact that the Hokage or the leaders didn't even go talk to them, shows that the option was still there.

That right?
I'll just say this. War was inevitable. Danzō, Hiruzen, Shisui, the Elders, and Itachi knew there'd be war. Their view > your silly optimism.

Same Itachi who regreted it later on, and saw it as a mistake and believed another route would've been better?

Same Danzo, who was killing off the uchiha to get their eyes? and was then associating with enemies like Hanzo and Orochimaru, so he could become the Hokage?

Same Hiruzen who couldn't even make a firm a grip on his reign and had his liltle teammates feed him bs?

Same elders who till this day can't give up power?

Though i can state my silly optimism > your fanboyism of Danzo

 

[Wabbit]

Why would some one just watch other to take power,other would also want it
Also in past nobody wanted Madara to be hokage so it seems from his actions other clans didnt liked Uchihas
so it is unlikely other clans would be joined in.

 

[HiddenSound]

Same Itachi who regreted it later on, and saw it as a mistake and believed another route would've been better?

Same Danzo, who was killing off the uchiha to get their eyes? and was then associating with enemies like Hanzo and Orochimaru, so he could become the Hokage?

Same Hiruzen who couldn't even make a firm a grip on his reign and had his liltle teammates feed him bs?

Same elders who till this day can't give up power?

Though i can state my silly optimism > your fanboyism of Danzo

Do you think about what you say before you say it?

Itachi never regretted stopping the Uchiha, just the way he did so, if anything. He never once thought he should have let that moron Fugaku have his way.

Mere difference of opinion.

That's why he ruled as Hokage for decades, right? Jesus, thiiiiiink.

Baseless opinion.

All in all, you're just wrong. This whole thread is just your opinion that you've misconstrued as fact. As usual.

 

[KingHashirama]

Do you think about what you say before you say it?

Itachi never regretted stopping the Uchiha, just the way he did so, if anything. He never once thought he should have let that moron Fugaku have his way.

Mere difference of opinion.

That's why he ruled as Hokage for decades, right? Jesus, thiiiiiink.

Baseless opinion.

All in all, you're just wrong. This whole thread is just your opinion that you've misconstrued as fact. As usual.

And do you try to understand what i said? Itachi killed the Uchiha. I said he even regerretted that and said there could have been an another sol;ution.

Fugaku.. calling him a moron, is the samething as calling a Danzo the Idiot King.

What does Hiruzen's reign as Hokage before Minato have any correlation to his reign after Minato? Before you had the Sanin/Sakumo and many others.. who did you have after Minato?


And just like the whole post is your opinion, and simply turning down the statements made by others, because your fanboyism of Danzo, doesn't let you think outside the box and look at the reality of the situation.

Why would some one just watch other to take power,other would also want it
Also in past nobody wanted Madara to be hokage so it seems from his actions other clans didnt liked Uchihas
so it is unlikely other clans would be joined in.

In the past there was only Senju and Uchiha who had a say in Hokage.. also, Hashirama was the most feared man of his time.. of course they wouldn't select Madara... rofl.

Madara =/= uchiha clan.