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[TimothyTheTomato]

They were at the very least countered by Arrows very easily, and i proved you wrong on the Preta Path part.



He claimed a Rinnegan Susano'o user couldn't use Preta Path with Susano'o, yet that's exactly what Sasuke did in their battle.

So who's the one denying facts?

You are

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-Madara showing that jutsu can't be absorbed while using susanoo
-Showing that he can still absorb jutsu on the same page so that debunks any claim of plot induced stupidity for him not absorbing while in susanoo.
What Sasuke did was completely different (he didn't even absorb the same way, preta creates a barrier )he used outer path and preta to use susanoo as a gedo mazo.
Sasuke susanoo gets destroyed by ninjutsu and even if it couldn't unrivalled strength does it.
But since susanoo isn't impervious to jutsu (otherwise madaras susanoo wouldn't be destroyed. Sasuke would've absorbed Kaguyas chakra arms. And he would've absorbed the rasenshurikens )

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Here's what he said,

"Madara also showed that you can't absorb while using susanoo no matter how skilled you are in the kage fight."

He didn't literally say a Rinnegan Susano'o user couldn't Preta Path with Susano'o - but it's obvious that's what he meant. Only Rinnegan users can use Preta Path, Preta Path absorbs chakra.

So yeah, don't say that i mistook his words.




Alright, you're right on that. But at the very least we know the arrows kept Naruto from using the TSB for anything else briefly.

TSB tanked the arrows.

TSB cant damage susanoo so Naruto use them only as defense

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Look at the OP, i literally copied and pasted his own words. What did i say that was wrong? I didn't misinterpret his comment. In my first comment in this thread i countered the OP about what he said, and he himself replied and didn't claim that i misinterpreted his words. Yet you do.

Fact is you call other people out ignoring facts yet the OP did that aswell and you said nothing. Why? Because you're on the same side.

What am I ignoring?
Did Sasuke use the preta barrier and absorb the bijuu chakra in his body?
No he used outer path path or another preta technique To form a chakra humanoid.


Sasuke susanoo has been destroyed by ninjutsu already. So you're ignoring facts

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

TSB cant damage susanoo so Naruto use them only as defense

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tsb did that to susanoo

 

[ComplexCity]

Your whole thread loses its meaning after you said Madara proved that preta can't be used while using Susano'o.
Without noticing that it was Edo Madara using a fake Rinnegan.

Yet Madara still used the Preta path with the fake Rinnegan :sdo:

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Look at the OP, i literally copied and pasted his own words. What did i say that was wrong? I didn't misinterpret his comment. In my first comment in this thread i countered the OP about what he said, and he himself replied and didn't claim that i misinterpreted his words. Yet you do.

Fact is you call other people out ignoring facts yet the OP did that aswell and you said nothing. Why? Because you're on the same side.

I am ignoring no facts. You believe that susanoo users can absorb jutsu while using it, but that hasn't been shown, which means it can't be proven, which means it's not fact. Preta users have had there susanoo destroyed by ninjutsu . The absorbtion barrier can't be created with susanoo.

 

[ComplexCity]

I am ignoring no facts. You believe that susanoo users can absorb jutsu while using it, but that hasn't been shown, which means it can't be proven, which means it's not fact. Preta users have had there susanoo destroyed by ninjutsu . The absorbtion barrier can't be created with susanoo.

To be fair, Madara used the Preta after he was ripped out of sussano, so it is debatable to say that he can as nothing in the manga suggest that he can't

Not saying you're wrong, just throwing that out there

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

To be fair, Madara used the Preta after he was ripped out of sussano, so it is debatable to say that he can as nothing in the manga suggest that he can't

Not saying you're wrong, just throwing that out there

Key Word -Out
Madara never did it inside of susanoo and has had jutsu damage him while he's in it.
But as soon as he leaves it he ridicules them for using ninjutsu. Showing outside of susanoo he is invulnerable to ninjutsu.

I'm saying while inside susanoo they can't use the barrier based absorption preta jutsu. They can probably use other preta techniques but if he could absorb in susanoo than why didn't Madara do it in the scan above

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

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tsb did that to susanoo

yeah forgot that

 

[ComplexCity]

Key Word -Out
Madara never did it inside of susanoo and has had jutsu damage him while he's in it.
But as soon as he leaves it he ridicules them for using ninjutsu. Showing outside of susanoo he is invulnerable to ninjutsu

Not debating that he cannot be damaged while in sussano, guy proves this.

However nothing proves that he cannot use it while in Sussano, when Sasuke has used Amenoteijikara while inside his Sussano

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Not debating that he cannot be damaged while in sussano, guy proves this.

However nothing proves that he cannot use it while in Sussano, when Sasuke has used Amenoteijikara while inside his Sussano

He can use rinnegan techniques but can't absorb jutsu.
Jutsu absorption. has Limits Even if it's preta or kaguyas method. Sasuke could not absorb while using jutsu and him and Madara showed that their susanoo can be damaged by ninjutsu even though they personally can't.
The preta jutsu that absorbs jutsu uses a barrier to do so.
It can't manifest inside of susanoo or around it otherwise madara and sasukes susanoo wouldn't have been destroyed by ninjutsu multiply times

 

[ComplexCity]

He can use rinnegan techniques but can't absorb jutsu.
Jutsu absorption. has Limits Even if it's preta or kaguyas method. Sasuke could not absorb while using jutsu and him and Madara showed that their susanoo can be damaged by ninjutsu even though they personally can't.
The preta jutsu that absorbs jutsu uses a barrier to do so.
It can't manifest inside of susanoo or around it otherwise madara and sasukes susanoo wouldn't have been destroyed by ninjutsu multiply times

Preta Path can absorb chakra through contact as well which has been shown twice by both Nagato and the Preta Paths. To say he can use the Path abilities but cannot use the Preta is contradicting your statement. Nagato was able to use the Asura path (which I believe is consider ninjutsu, don't quote me though) while absorbing KM Naruto's chakara. Based off this and Sasukes feat, I fail to see why Madara wouldn't be able to

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Preta Path can absorb chakra through contact as well which has been shown twice by both Nagato and the Preta Paths. To say he can use the Path abilities but cannot use the Preta is contradicting your statement. Nagato was able to use the Asura path (which I believe is consider ninjutsu, don't quote me though) while absorbing KM Naruto's chakara. Based off this and Sasukes feat, I fail to see why Madara wouldn't be able to

He didn't do it.
I'm talking about jutsu absorption.
In vote 2 it was stated Sasuke couldn't absorb while using jutsu cause of inexperience.
I'm saying jutsu can't be absorbed through susanoo not chakra. Ever seen Nagato absorb a rasengan without a barrier? No you haven't. My statement is jutsu can't be absorbed through susanoo not chakra otherwise madara and Sasuke wouldnt have had their susanoos destroyed by ninjutsu. Ninjutsu is absorbed different than just chakra. Ninjutsu absorption never happened through susanoo cause it can't.this is uncontradicted

 

[ComplexCity]

He didn't do it.
I'm talking about jutsu absorption.
In vote 2 it was stated Sasuke couldn't absorb while using jutsu cause of inexperience.
I'm saying jutsu can't be absorbed through susanoo not chakra. Ever seen Nagato absorb a rasengan without a barrier? No you haven't. My statement is jutsu can't be absorbed through susanoo not chakra otherwise madara and Sasuke wouldnt have had their susanoos destroyed by ninjutsu. Ninjutsu is absorbed different than just chakra. Ninjutsu absorption never happened through susanoo cause it can't.this is uncontradicted

1. Jutsu is made of chakara to say that it cannot be absorb through contact is to say it cannot absorb jutsu through contact. Bee hit Nagato with his Lariat Bomb with a clean shot (which is a type of jutsu, taijutsu). When Nagato absorbed his Bijuu cloak, the attack (the jutsu) was ineffective. If you were right and say that jutsu cannot be absorbed through contact Nagato would have been injured even after absorbing the chakara

2. What is stopping the user from expanding the barrier inside of Sussano and absorbing ninjutsu. Hirdoura is a taijutsu and Madara was snuck by Gai

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

1. Jutsu is made of chakara to say that it cannot be absorb through contact is to say it cannot absorb jutsu through contact. Bee hit Nagato with his Lariat Bomb with a clean shot (which is a type of jutsu, taijutsu). When Nagato absorbed his Bijuu cloak, the attack (the jutsu) was ineffective. If you were right and say that jutsu cannot be absorbed through contact Nagato would have been injured even after absorbing the chakara

2. What is stopping the user from expanding the barrier inside of Sussano and absorbing ninjutsu. Hirdoura is a taijutsu and Madara was snuck by Gai

The attack still had effect as the impact already happened. An alive Nagato would still be injured.
What's the point of the barrier than?
Look at the scan above with madara vs the kage!
Gets susanoo destroyed by ninjutsu, but when he's out he says it's useless cause he can absorb it. Why didn't he say that when inside susanoo!?
Why did Madara and Sasuke, even though they knew preta, have their susanoo destroyed by ninjutsu multiple times (kaguya, kages and vote 2)
They can't absorb jutsu while in susanoo.
Nagato can't absorb ninjutsu (while rendering it completely useless )without his barrier, even if he absorbed bees chakra that was after he was already hit. Do you think Nagato can absorb a rasengan through his skin without a barrier unharmed?

I didn't even use hiradora as an example look at the scan above with the kage and Madara. They can't absorb ninjutsu through susanoo.


Madara always absorbs ninjutsu outside of susanoo unless he wants to taunt so why has his susanoo been destroyed by jinton if he can absorb it while inside.
The only time Madaras been damaged by ninjutsu as an edo is when he's in susanoo, or let's it happen,or he's being hit by wood dragon.
Madara absorbs passively so why was susanoo destroyed by jinton (with his leg evaporated )if he could absorb it. Manga already showed that It's hard to use preta and jutsu at once (698) and susanoo is a very straining and unique technique. People who can absorb jutsu have been shown to NOT do so only when in susanoo. It's obvious they can't do it in susano. Using Nagato as an example baffles me as he isn't using susanoo while doing it and he's only absorbed chakra without a barrier not a formed ninjutsu. Chakra absorption and jutsu absorption are different preta techniques.
If chakra absorption is the same that means that the dude Sasuke fought in the prelims is immune to jutsu cause he can absorb chakra through his hands

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

1. Jutsu is made of chakara to say that it cannot be absorb through contact is to say it cannot absorb jutsu through contact. Bee hit Nagato with his Lariat Bomb with a clean shot (which is a type of jutsu, taijutsu). When Nagato absorbed his Bijuu cloak, the attack (the jutsu) was ineffective. If you were right and say that jutsu cannot be absorbed through contact Nagato would have been injured even after absorbing the chakara

2. What is stopping the user from expanding the barrier inside of Sussano and absorbing ninjutsu. Hirdoura is a taijutsu and Madara was snuck by Gai

They were at the very least countered by Arrows very easily, and i proved you wrong on the Preta Path part.



He claimed a Rinnegan Susano'o user couldn't use Preta Path with Susano'o, yet that's exactly what Sasuke did in their battle.

So who's the one denying facts?

You are

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-Madara showing that jutsu can't be absorbed while using susanoo
-Showing that he can still absorb jutsu on the same page so that debunks any claim of plot induced stupidity for him not absorbing while in susanoo.
What Sasuke did was completely different (he didn't even absorb the same way, preta creates a barrier )he used outer path and preta to use susanoo as a gedo mazo.
Sasuke susanoo gets destroyed by ninjutsu and even if it couldn't unrivalled strength does it.
But since susanoo isn't impervious to jutsu (otherwise madaras susanoo wouldn't be destroyed. Sasuke would've absorbed Kaguyas chakra arms. And he would've absorbed the rasenshurikens )

 

[ComplexCity]

The attack still had effect as the impact already happened. An alive Nagato would still be injured.
What's the point of the barrier than?
Look at the scan above with madara vs the kage!
Gets susanoo destroyed by ninjutsu, but when he's out he says it's useless cause he can absorb it. Why didn't he say that when inside susanoo!?
Why did Madara and Sasuke, even though they knew preta, have their susanoo destroyed by ninjutsu multiple times (kaguya, kages and vote 2)
They can't absorb jutsu while in susanoo.
Nagato can't absorb ninjutsu (while rendering it completely useless )without his barrier, even if he absorbed bees chakra that was after he was already hit. Do you think Nagato can absorb a rasengan through his skin without a barrier unharmed?

I didn't even use hiradora as an example look at the scan above with the kage and Madara. They can't absorb ninjutsu through susanoo.


Madara always absorbs ninjutsu outside of susanoo unless he wants to taunt so why has his susanoo been destroyed by jinton if he can absorb it while inside.
The only time Madaras been damaged by ninjutsu as an edo is when he's in susanoo, or let's it happen,or he's being hit by wood dragon.
Madara absorbs passively so why was susanoo destroyed by jinton (with his leg evaporated )if he could absorb it. Manga already showed that It's hard to use preta and jutsu at once (698) and susanoo is a very straining and unique technique. People who can absorb jutsu have been shown to NOT do so only when in susanoo. It's obvious they can't do it in susano. Using Nagato as an example baffles me as he isn't using susanoo while doing it and he's only absorbed chakra without a barrier not a formed ninjutsu. Chakra absorption and jutsu absorption are different preta techniques.
If chakra absorption is the same that means that the dude Sasuke fought in the prelims is immune to jutsu cause he can absorb chakra through his hands

1. Speculation, if that's the case, how come Nagato reverted back into his younger self after absorbing to chakara? It's obvious it had no effect, whether he was alive or not


2. The point of the barrier is to absorb chakara/ninjustu


3. When you have valid proof showing that they cannot absorb Sussano, then you will sway me. Once again you cannot state that they have access to the Rinnegan abilities (after Sasuke has shown this on more than one occasion) and then say one can't be used

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

1. Speculation, if that's the case, how come Nagato reverted back into his younger self after absorbing to chakara? It's obvious it had no effect, whether he was alive or not


2. The point of the barrier is to absorb chakara/ninjustu


3. When you have valid proof showing that they cannot absorb Sussano, then you will sway me. Once again you cannot state that they have access to the Rinnegan abilities (after Sasuke has shown this on more than one occasion) and then say one can't be used

He got hit hard! The impact is What does the damage so What are you talking about,he was hit by the attack so he would've been damaged if alive whether he absorbed it or not since he did it after getting hit.
I gave proof look at the scan.
Why did Madara and Sasuke not protect their susanoo with preta than?
You didn't refute me at all. I know that's What the barrier is for. You're first point has nothing to do with the debate.
My proof is susanoo being destroyed by ninjutsu.



When have things that can absorb jutsu been damaged by jutsu that it can absorb!
What the hell is going on today

Next reply please refute every point I said that has something to do with jutsus being absorbed through susanoo. Every point from every post, refute every scan and tell me if susanoo could absorb jutsu why did Sasuke and Madara not do it,but immediately do so outside of susanoo

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

1. Speculation, if that's the case, how come Nagato reverted back into his younger self after absorbing to chakara? It's obvious it had no effect, whether he was alive or not


2. The point of the barrier is to absorb chakara/ninjustu


3. When you have valid proof showing that they cannot absorb Sussano, then you will sway me. Once again you cannot state that they have access to the Rinnegan abilities (after Sasuke has shown this on more than one occasion) and then say one can't be used

My valid proof is the post above yours

 

[ComplexCity]

He got hit hard! The impact is What does the damage so What are you talking about,he was hit by the attack so he would've been damaged if alive whether he absorbed it or not since he did it after getting hit.
I gave proof look at the scan.
Why did Madara and Sasuke not protect their susanoo with preta than?
You didn't refute me at all. I know that's What the barrier is for. You're first point has nothing to do with the debate.
My proof is susanoo being destroyed by ninjutsu.



When have things that can absorb jutsu been damaged by jutsu that it can absorb!
What the hell is going on today

1. Edo do not negate damage, they simply regenerate from them. Once again, it doesn't matter if he was alive or not. If what you're saying is true, we would have seen Nagato regenerating from the damage but instead he reverted to his younger self after absorbing the chakara

2. Cannot see the pic, but in the short answer. PIS. I can ask a lot of "why not questions as well if you want"

3. Just because Sussano is destroyed by ninjutsu does not mean it cannot be absorbed while the user is in Sussano. The fact that Sasuke was able to use Ameno disproves that Rinne techs cannot be used while inside Sussano