There’s no difference between Kyuubi chakra & EMS

[Devauzamaki]

We Naruto fans usually get trashed for Naruto borrowing kyuubi chakra.

Ok cool we can establish kyuubi chakra is borrowed power despite it not giving Naruto any new jutsu. Cool I agree.

But how is it EMS, outside chakra,given to a blind uchiha not considered borrowed?

Sure you can see ems didn’t give Sasuke any jutsu he didn’t already have but same can be said for Naruto with kyuubi chakra. It just made his attacks stronger.

Kyuubi chakra is just chakra for Naruto the same as ems chakra is just chakra for Sasuke.

In fact, ems boosted Sasukes susanoo capabilities.the SAME WAY Kyuubi chakra was just a boost for Naruto.

They fall into the same category

 

[Jinrou]

Omg.. why you want to stir up the Naruto and Sasuke fanwars again ;-;

 

[InfiniteMugen]

It’s borrowed, if you gotta take it from someone else it’s borrowed. It’d be different if you where just getting your own eyes back(a la madara) but to possibly forcibly have to take the eyes of your sibling? It’s borrowed.... I mean technically it would be stolen(if itachi had taken sasuke eyes, or if the izuna/madara exchange had happened the way were told the first time) but it is an outside source of your own power used to gain more power

 

[Styles]

Difference is. With EMS the user don't use it's chakra once his run out like Naruto using Kurama's. And EMS is can't be given back while Naruto can opt to use or not use Kurama's chakra along with the other bijuu's chakra.

EMS is equivalent to Naruto passively getting his stamina and chakra reserves to increase due to Kurama's influence. Since neither can go away and is both outside power that they can't give back.

 

[Chikombo]

I mean, ems is a one purchase, not a continous flow.
But overall yea I agree.

 

[Scryed]

There is a difference.

Kurama is a living being with his own power while EMS isn't. EMS still involves the use of someone else's eyes though.

In other words, Kyuubi chakra is borrowed power since you're actively borrowing his chakra. EMS is stolen power since the previous owner no longer has an influence over it but it still has their chakra.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Nah, there's a big difference. Sasuke can solo anyone, yet Naruto can't solo chuunin or genin because big daddy fox is always helping him whether passively or actively.

 

[uhmusddy]

EMS is not a one time thing?

Sasuke activating EMS is the same as Naruto activating a chakra mode

They are the same in concept of being outside power sources that can stack on top of their base power.

 

[Chikombo]

EMS is not a one time thing?

Sasuke activating EMS is the same as Naruto activating a chakra mode

They are the same in concept of being outside power sources that can stack on top of their base power.

But once you have taken someones eyes, then the ems is yours right? Or does the chakra come from another host?
It's like you stole someone elses weapons but then they belong to you.

The kyuubi could say no at any time.

Unless you take from it, I am getting confused.

I know if you steal something it's not yours lol.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Nice fanfic

 

[Chikombo]

Does the ems give you eternal sight from chakra inside the eye you stole? Or do the eyes use chakra from your own body?

It's the combination right? Cus a dead pair of eyes can't store eternal chakra right?'

It like helps you activate it or something I think.

 

[Animegoin]

We Naruto fans usually get trashed for Naruto borrowing kyuubi chakra.

Ok cool we can establish kyuubi chakra is borrowed power despite it not giving Naruto any new jutsu. Cool I agree.

But how is it EMS, outside chakra,given to a blind uchiha not considered borrowed?

Sure you can see ems didn’t give Sasuke any jutsu he didn’t already have but same can be said for Naruto with kyuubi chakra. It just made his attacks stronger.

Kyuubi chakra is just chakra for Naruto the same as ems chakra is just chakra for Sasuke.

In fact, ems boosted Sasukes susanoo capabilities.the SAME WAY Kyuubi chakra was just a boost for Naruto.

They fall into the same category

Lol yeah...

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[Uverdore9]

EMS doesnt give you chakra, stamina, reflexes(unless its choku tomoe), ability to spam shunshin etc.


Which is why Kyuubi the advisor is getting trashed.

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

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[Nick01]

Nah, there's a big difference. Sasuke can solo anyone, yet Naruto can't solo chuunin or genin because big daddy fox is always helping him whether passively or actively.

Bad fanfic.

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EMS is an outside power anyway you look at it.

Only Uchiha faps among a few others, love to nitpick when it comes to Naruto(being a Jin), because they can’t handle his superiority.

Strip them both of outside/borrowed power and Naruto would still wreck.

 

[Warlocks]

EMS considered borrowed thou

 

[Jiren]

That's like saying there is no difference between kyuubi chakra and kakashi sharingan

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Sasuke fans: EMS is not borrowed power.....

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OP: Both are external powers up which they made their own, the difference is Sasuke would eventually end up blind fodder with just MS while Naruto could still become very strong even if the kyubi wasn't sealed within him.

 

[Greatness23]

Take both of them away, and its Sage mode Jr. vs Sauce. Once he mastered senjutsu, the toads were/are no longer there to save him from Genjutsu. Can't see sauce doingn him like that though *sigh*

 

[Gerkak]

Both are not powers naturally acquired through training. One is a chakra battery that talks, the other a transplanted organ that grants more power.