[Theory]Yata Mirror may get burned may be shattered... be prepared [Read First]

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys I would like to talk about possibility of Yata Mirror being burned or even shattered in future if it used again against current mountain busters techniques... and even more powerfull ones.

The reason is simple, Kishi very often uses Japanese mythology as his inspiration for Naruto manga. Yata Mirror is based on Yata no Kagami ,

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This is what is written about Yata no Kagami:

Yata no Kagami (八咫鏡?) is a sacred mirror that is part of the Imperial Regalia of Japan. It is said to be housed in Ise Shrine in Mie prefecture, Japan, although a lack of public access makes this difficult to verify. The Yata no Kagami represents "wisdom" or "honesty," depending on the source. Its name literally means "The Eight Hand Mirror," likely a reference to its width. Mirrors in ancient Japan represented truth because they merely reflected what was shown, and were a source of much mystique and reverence (being uncommon items). Japanese folklore is rich in stories of life before mirrors were commonplace.

In the Japanese mythology this mirror and the Yasakani no magatama were hung from a tree to lure out Amaterasu from a cave. They were given, with the sword Kusanagi, to Amaterasu's grandson, Ninigi-no-Mikoto, when he went to pacify Japan. From there the treasures passed into the hands of the Imperial House of Japan.

In the year 1040 (Chōkyū 1, 9th month), the Sacred Mirror was burned in a fire .[1] Whether that mirror was irrevocably lost or not, the current government claims that there are three Yata no Kagami held at different Shinto shrines: one is in Meiji Jingu in Tokyo, one in Ise Jingu, and one in Atsuta Jingu in Nagoya.

the text glowing in red color is the most important here..."The Sacred Mirror was burned in fire...."

sounds as Amaterasu/ Black flames... I think

The tale of the sacred mirror Yata-no-Kagami

Spoiler

The three sacred imperial treasures consist of the sacred mirror called Yata-no-Kagami, the sacred sword called Ame-no-murakumo-no-Tsurugi and the sacred jewel called Yasakani-no-Magatama. According to Shinto thought, the mirror as reflecting everything properly is a symbol for "Honesty," the sword for "Braveness," and the jewel for "Affection."
Now, the sacred mirror is enshrined as the august symbol of Amaterasu Omikami at Ise Jingu, while the sacred sword is enshrined as the august symbol for kami at Atsuta Jingu of Nagoya City, and the sacred jewel Yasakani-no-Magatama is preserved in the Imperial Palace.
When Amaterasu Omikami gave the sacred mirror to Ninigi-no-mikoto, her grandson, she said: "Think of this sacred mirror as none other than myself, take care of it, and worship it forever." Ever since, the successive emperors have worshiped Amaterasu Omikami, believing her to reside in this mirror, and after Ise Jingu had been established, they have worshiped Amaterasu Omikami with even more reverence.

Also... Yata Mirror, Totsuka Blade and The necklace with six tomoes worn by Sage of six paths are all based on The three sacred imperial treasures which are: the sacred mirror called Yata-no-Kagami, the sacred sword called Ame-no-murakumo-no-Tsurugi and the sacred jewel called Yasakani-no-Magatama. Sounds familliar, yes ?

Image of these three sacred items put together:

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In other words everyone who is wearing The necklace with six tomoes worn by Sage of six paths, can be immune to Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror, so Actually it can mean that BM Naruto, Deva Path(Yahiko dead body controlled by Nagato), KCM Minato, Current Obito Juubi jinchurki and Sage of six paths are immune to Yata and Totsuka and Itachi CAN'T SOLO them

I believe that The necklace with six tomoes worn by Sage of six paths which is based on Yasakani-no-Magatama can control Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade while protecting wielder from these two weapons and be used in ritual for something..., maybe summon godly deities.

CONCLUSION ​

• Yata Mirror may get burnt and even shattered in future
• Yata Mirror is based on Yata No Kagami from Japanese Mythology
• Yata Mirror, Totsuka blade and The necklace with six tomoes worn by Sage of six paths are all based on The three sacred imperial treasures which are: the sacred mirror called Yata-no-Kagami, the sacred sword called Ame-no-murakumo-no-Tsurugi and the sacred jewel called Yasakani-no-Magatama
• These who are wearing The necklace with six tomoes worn by Sage of six paths can be immune to Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade...
• Sage of six paths can be creator of Yata and Totsuka
• The necklace with six tomoes worn by Sage of six paths which is based on Yasakani-no-Magatama maybe be able to control Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade.

Thanks for reading !
Please share your thoughts

I don't want to cause FLAME WAR... ALSO IT IS NOT CONFIRMED THAT KISHI WILL FOLLOWS DETAIL IN DETAIL WITH Yata Mirror while based it on Yata No Kagami..., but THIS CAN BE POSSIBILITY...

 

[Klad]

Wow , you always make crazy and awesome theories .

 

[KCMNaruto]

Wow , you always make crazy and awesome theories .

Thank you very much

 

[naruttebayo]

i'm not fully convinced but thanks for your effort .

 

[KCMNaruto]

i'm not fully convinced but thanks for your effort .

Ok , thanks for reading at least

 

[Chīkara]

Always a good thread. I would like to discuss if i had more time right now

 

[Kurome]

Interesting one...Kishi is inspiring from the Japanese culture...you know, Izanami and Izanagi, sister and brother, that had to marry and all that stuff. That is their (japanese) creation myth..it's interesting, indeed

 

[kunde]

hmmm . .thats fantastic . .now i know what really is yasaka magatama . .so kishi does everything based on myths . .thanks for information bro . .rep for you

 

[MadaraUzamaki]

Good thread ,Kishi wouldn't make something as Op as Yata miror and not have any weakness or immunites (sorry about the spelling)

 

[NOemotions]

Yes, kishi uses lot's of mythology on this series. which makes it even more interesting.. and i've readed that very same wiki page a while ago myself xd but i hope this happens, so all nutcases who thinks that they are invincible will be shutted down. anyways.. good theory! ->

 

[KCMNaruto]

Always a good thread. I would like to discuss if i had more time right now

Thank you very much

Interesting one...Kishi is inspiring from the Japanese culture...you know, Izanami and Izanagi, sister and brother, that had to marry and all that stuff. That is their (japanese) creation myth..it's interesting, indeed

^^ Exactly

Thanks a lot

hmmm . .thats fantastic . .now i know what really is yasaka magatama . .so kishi does everything based on myths . .thanks for information bro . .rep for you

true I am glad you enjoy reading

It was pleasure for me to share that knowledge with you

Actually it can mean that BM Naruto, Deva Path(Yahiko dead body controlled by Nagato), KCM Minato, Current Obito Juubi jinchurki and Sage of six paths are immune to Yata and Totsuka and Itachi CAN'T SOLO them

Good thread ,Kishi wouldn't make something as Op as Yata miror and not have any weakness or immunites (sorry about the spelling)

Yeah I think as well ... Itachi was wrong in Saying "Every technique has weakness", he should said "Everything has weakness", that would be correct

Yes, kishi uses lot's of mythology on this series. which makes it even more interesting.. and i've readed that very same wiki page a while ago myself xd but i hope this happens, so all nutcases who thinks that they are invincible will be shutted down. anyways.. good theory! ->

I hope as well

Great minds think alike, thanks for reading

 

[Fluffyman]

I cant see the connection between the Yata Mirror + Totsuka Sword and the necklace. They are the three sacred imperial treasures like you said but no where is it written that any of the items can cancel the power of another item. Thats just pure speculation, we could just also assume that the Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword do cancel the power of the necklace.

Manga said that the Yata Mirror repels everything and the Totsuka Sword seals everything, thats the way it is unless Kishi changes his mind later on..he didnt really leave room for speculation. Its his manga after all, he´s making the rules.

 

[Microsword57]

I am more interested in the part saying that they're three Yato Mirrors and that Amaterasu had a Grand Child. I am also confused on why you say those with 6 Tomoes(Magatamas) are immune to to the Yato Mirror and Totsuka Blade and why you related the Magatama to those like Obito, Minato and Naruto with the Magatama's around their neck rather than the Uchiha's Madara, Sasuke and Itachi with the Magatamas in their eyes and have used the Magatamas as projectiles?

 

[KCMNaruto]

I cant see the connection between the Yata Mirror + Totsuka Sword and the necklace. They are the three sacred imperial treasures like you said but no where is it written that any of the items can cancel the power of another item. Thats just pure speculation, we could just also assume that the Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword do cancel the power of the necklace.

Manga said that the Yata Mirror repels everything and the Totsuka Sword seals everything, thats the way it is unless Kishi changes his mind later on..he didnt really leave room for speculation.

True... but you are wrong about last sentence " he didnt really leave room for speculation ", He DID leave some room for speculation but it is hard to notice it.

My theory is still plaussible even if Kishi doesn't make it come out true..., simply as that

It depends if Kishi follows Japanese mythology with details included or no, nothing more and nothing less

REMEMBER I DIDN'T SAY IT IS CERTAIN BUT I SAID IT IS POSSIBILITY !, That all

I am more interested in the part saying that they're three Yato Mirrors and that Amaterasu had a Grand Child. I am also confused on why you say those with 6 Tomoes(Magatamas) are immune to to the Yato Mirror and Totsuka Blade and why you related the Magatama to those like Obito, Minato and Naruto with the Magatama's around their neck rather than the Uchiha's Madara, Sasuke and Itachi with the Magatamas in their eyes and have used the Magatamas as projectiles?

Honestly I didn't see it like that, Thanks !

Then list only grows bigger

Itachi, Madara, Sasuke, Minato, Obito, BM Naruto, Sage of six paths, Deva Path could be immune to Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror.

Reason why Necklace of SOSP could control make them immune to Totsuka and Yata is simple, because Necklace in Japanese mythology was used in ritual to control it, sounds as Totsuka and Yata were being used in ritual and necklace began, controlled and finished that ritual... that all

Really nice catch with Uchiha eyes resemblace with 6 Tomoes(Magatamas), thanks !

 

[kunde]

true I am glad you enjoy reading

It was pleasure for me to share that knowledge with you

Actually it can mean that BM Naruto, Deva Path(Yahiko dead body controlled by Nagato), KCM Minato, Current Obito Juubi jinchurki and Sage of six paths are immune to Yata and Totsuka and Itachi CAN'T SOLO them

lol hell yeah XDXD

 

[Microsword57]

True... but you are wrong about last sentence " he didnt really leave room for speculation ", He DID leave some room for speculation but it is hard to notice it.

My theory is still plaussible even if Kishi doesn't make it come out true..., simply as that

It depends if Kishi follows Japanese mythology with details included or no, nothing more and nothing less

REMEMBER I DIDN'T SAY IT IS CERTAIN BUT I SAID IT IS POSSIBILITY !, That all



Honestly I didn't see it like that, Thanks !

Then list only grows bigger

Itachi, Madara, Sasuke, Minato, Obito, BM Naruto, Sage of six paths, Deva Path could be immune to Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror.

Reason why Necklace of SOSP could control make them immune to Totsuka and Yata is simple, because Necklace in Japanese mythology was used in ritual to control it, sounds as Totsuka and Yata were being used in ritual and necklace began, controlled and finished that ritual... that all

Really nice catch with Uchiha eyes resemblace with 6 Tomoes(Magatamas), thanks !

Thanks. Also if the Necklace was used in Japanese Mythology to control the Items couldn't that be simply implying that those who can use the Magatama projectiles or the the Sharingan because the Magatamas in their eyes could wield these weapons. Another thing to take into account is that these Japanese Mythologies were clearly created before this Manga was. That means this could just as easily be foreshadowing something that already happened. This means for example say you discover these things back when Itachi revealed Susanoo. This at that time it could have be foreshadowing Itachi using the Magatamas projectiles. At the same time we cannot completely rule out your theory but the timing of when you discovered these things should be considered as well. Overall, Nice Theory and Nice Thread.


Edit:To add to what I about the Uchiha controlling the items you see that Itachi and Madara both have shown to use the Magatama projectiles connected like a Necklace[

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[KCMNaruto]

Thanks. Also if the Necklace was used in Japanese Mythology to control the Items couldn't that be simply implying that those who can use the Magatama projectiles or the the Sharingan because the Magatamas in their eyes could wield these weapons. Another thing to take into account is that these Japanese Mythologies were clearly created before this Manga was. That means this could just as easily be foreshadowing something that already happened. This means for example say you discover these things back when Itachi revealed Susanoo. This at that time it could have be foreshadowing Itachi using the Magatamas projectiles. At the same time we cannot completely rule out your theory but the timing of when you discovered these things should be considered as well. Overall, Nice Theory and Nice Thread.


Edit:To add to what I about the Uchiha controlling the items you see that Itachi and Madara both have shown to use the Magatama projectiles connected like a Necklace[

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Thanks a lot

and nice notice with Itachi and Madara once again

Besides Interesting fact is that Itachi is wearing Necklace too but without magatamas, as you can see here:

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Maybe it is foreshadowing of Kishi showing that special Necklace in this case sacred Sage of six paths's necklace with magatamas protect it's wielder from even sacred weapons as Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade so they can't be used against wielder himself...

I would like a lot of that idea... , but maybe simple as other memeber said that this Sage of six paths's necklace with magatamas can negate any special power Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade has and in opposite Yata Mirorr and Totsuka Blade can negate power of Sage of six paths's necklace... as well. In other words if you have one of item from these sacred three... and other has another sacred item when these items can NOT be used against each other... they simply loose their power/meaning against each other...

That could be great Idea of Kishimoto to come up with , what do you think ?

 

[Microsword57]

Thanks a lot

and nice notice with Itachi and Madara once again

Besides Interesting fact is that Itachi is wearing Necklace too but without magatamas, as you can see here:

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Maybe it is foreshadowing of Kishi showing that special Necklace in this case sacred Sage of six paths's necklace with magatamas protect it's wielder from even sacred weapons as Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade so they can't be used against wielder himself...

I would like a lot of that idea... , but maybe simple as other memeber said that this Sage of six paths's necklace with magatamas can negate any special power Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade has and in opposite Yata Mirorr and Totsuka Blade can negate power of Sage of six paths's necklace... as well. In other words if you have one of item from these sacred three... and other has another sacred item when these items can be used against each other... they simply loose their power/meaning against each other...

That could be great Idea of Kishimoto to come up with , what do you think ?

Yeah that would be a cool idea for Kishimoto to come up with.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Yeah that would be a cool idea for Kishimoto to come up with.

Glad you think same

 

[Multiply]

What the hell did I just read. :|

Seems legit enough I guess... Lots of speculation and trying to connect mythology with Naruto. You sound like FemmeFatale a bit. U_U