[THEORY] Why I think Hyuga > Uchiha's Susano'o (excl. Madara)
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TehMastermind
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Now spend the same amount of effort to explain why the Uchiha > Hyuga, and you'll be surprised at what you come across
ComplexCity
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Annnd CC would like this Lol
OT: No, Sussano has already displayed its defensive capabilities. Plus Sussano has too many devestating advantages over a Hyuga shown by feats
OT: No, Sussano has already displayed its defensive capabilities. Plus Sussano has too many devestating advantages over a Hyuga shown by feats
ComplexCity
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Annnd CC would like this Lol
OT: No, Sussano has already displayed its defensive capabilities. Plus Sussano has too many devestating advantages over a Hyuga shown by feats
OT: No, Sussano has already displayed its defensive capabilities. Plus Sussano has too many devestating advantages over a Hyuga shown by feats
Dark Magician
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The law of thought or fundamental principle of logic
Uchiha > Hyuga cannot exist at the same time as Hyuga > Uchiha
Besides, I spent a lot of time analyzing the Susano'o. I doubt there's anything more to find which means I won't be able to prove what you say.
Nothing I posted was an attach so how does its defense disprove the theory if there's no offense. Remember, many feats are specific to a certain battle. For e.g, Neji cutting Jirobou web's while the others couldn't is a unique feat. It doesn't prove anything in a Neji vs Sasuke argument. Some feats work in some situations but not in others. For e.g. eye genjustu doesn't work against a Hyuga but I' sure there are many eye genjutsu Uchiha feats.
WreckRolled
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"1)Deflect arrows"
It's debatable if the Hyuuga have the time to do air palm since Kakashi and Danzo could not dodge or wave hand seals in time.
Only Hiashi can make the bijuu sized double air palm. The push would only make contact with the tip of the arrow frontally, it won't work at all, however Hiashi's giant rotation has a very good chance at changing the course of the arrow.
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I partially agree with this thread.
Hiashi=MS Sasuke-no counter to genjutsu, unknown stamina
Neji<MS Sasuke-small rotation
Hinata<<MS Sasuke-slower, no rotation
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Pretty much. This was all based on speculation, faulty reasoning, and a few miscondeptions.
But nonetheless, I appreciate the effort you put into making this thread and it's good that you defend your fav characters.
Dark Magician
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Where?
Thanks. Appreciate the agreement but are you then saying that Vacuum Wall Palm won't work on kunai because you'll only be in contact with frontal tip?
ComplexCity
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Actually, that is untrue, Sussano was able to cut the web as well, all the Jyuken does is apply chakara to the fingers in a blade like form making it available for cutting or peiercing tenkentsu. I didn't fully read anyway, I just saw the title and inferred my opinion. I will read in depth and respond with the appropriate rebuttal
Edit: I have read, your theory, I will post when I get on my computer
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Yes Susano'o is also able to cut through the web but that doesn't change the fact that many feats are battle-specific. It just means that Susano'o has yet another battle-specific feat. I always appreciate good rebuttal. Helps me strengthen my theory if I can.
ComplexCity
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Ok so I'll try my best to deliver one, won't be able to post detailed manga pages because I work two jobs and am tired lol. Anywho, one to the list
1. This first point I seem not to understand. Yes Baku enhanced Danzo's Fuuton Vacuum Blast. However, Vacuum Blade is a cutting jutsu which was also strengthened through Baku. We cannot infer that the 64 trigram air palms will be enough to deflect the arrow. Not only does it travel at high enough speeds (to the point where Kakashi had to use Kamui, a known instant tech), but the fact that a Hyuga will be able to time it is debatable. Also, I don't think Air palm will work against Sussano as Danzo's Fuuton's cutting power was enhanced by Baku
2. I agree, however, this is specific to Itachi, because by manga feats, he has been the only shown with it (the Swords of Totsuka). I think a Hyuga will be able to outlast him. However this is debatable as well as Itachi also has precognition abilities as well
3. I suppose Kaiten would be able to deflect this, however, this is an assumption on my part. Yagma, probably would be canceled by Kaiten but it just leaves a Hygua vulnerable to attack
In short, I don't really have to have a counter argument for Yata and a PSS. Sussano is just to overwhelming for a Hyuga (preferable Neji) to handle. The odds just don't look in his favor
Stxluciferr
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WreckRolled
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Not at all.The kunai has very little kinetic energy.
The vacuum palm will not change the direction of the arrow because it's pushing it frontally, Danzo's giant tree was growing sideways. Unless you think the force with which the vacuum palm is pushing the tip of the arrow is greater than the kinetic energy of the arrow itself.
Would vacuum palm stop a bullet ? No. Would a bullet push back juubi hand ? No. Force per square inch and overall force are different.
This is also why vacuum palm will not destroy susanoo, cutting=higher force per square inch than the material getting cut, danzo's wind attack was formed of multiple cutting slashes.
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Vacuum palm is just a strong push.
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It's not too complicated. It does make sense but it's based on the premise that the Hyuga will push the frontal tip of the arrow. That's not how I imagined it. I imagined them following through with the arrow, not just a once only push. A hyuga could stop a bullet if they applied the push and followed through.