theory: why hashirama and madara are the stronget senju and uchiha

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could hashirama and madara be the strongest senju and uchiha because they are a closer generation to the two sons of the so6p ?? i don't know where i read it before. so here it goes, the so6p was the strongest (god) and the origin of all, the two sons were WEAKER THAN THEIR FATHER and the origin of the uchia and the senju (two strongest clans) so my point is the more the generations advance the weaker the genes will be so this is just why i think hashirama and madara are the strongest and why hashirama beats madara:

hashirama represents: the younger son of so6p (senju) GOOD

madara represents: the older son of the so6p (uchiha) BAD

and the good will always beat the bad as we all know ;)

so what do you guys think ?? :D

i want to add: that it is just a theory everyone (of course not necessarily right) so feel free to say what you think
 
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They were chosen by fate, there was may other uchiha's and senju's that were just as close to the sage by genes as them. Baiscally Kishi is fate and he chose them.
 
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Why is this a theory? Yes, their Generation was the closes of the Sage, but it is also because of constant War that their generation were all held as strong shinobi.
 

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Explain Naruto on the brink of surpassing all generations before him. Is he a genetic mutation ?
 

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They're the strongest because of their fate and true the Good does beat the Bad, but in this story they're even. Hashirama won because of his instant healing.
 

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They're the strongest because of their fate and true the Good does beat the Bad, but in this story they're even. Hashirama won because of his instant healing.

You can't state that.
 

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Their closer relation to the Sage has something to do with their strength, likely. However, looking at time in a different way, Naruto and Sasuke may surpass them. If you're looking at time as a linear descent in this case, then Hashi and Madara are the strongest of their respective clans. However, if you view time as a circle, then you eventually recycle to that level of being, which is what I believe is happening now.
 

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Randomly of the descendants, these two most likely were the strongest at a same time....
That's why they battled on such high level and became legends...
 

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They were chosen by fate, there was may other uchiha's and senju's that were just as close to the sage by genes as them. Baiscally Kishi is fate and he chose them.

ya i know but they stood out and the reason why they are levels beyond the current shinobi is my theory :p
 
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They were fated to fight, as were the Elder and Younger sons of Rikudo Sennin before them and as will Sasuke and Naruto when the time comes. So yes, they are the strongest of their respective clans.
 

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Explain Naruto on the brink of surpassing all generations before him. Is he a genetic mutation ?

i don't think naruto will surpass madara and hashirama, sorry its just something said to often (naruto will surpass, naruto will surpass) were talking about people that fought around the REAL full kyubi, not having a half sealed inside of them U_U naruto is just a kid and why are you even saying his on the brink of surpassing everyone, based on what ??
 
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Well that's just pure genetics. If one strain of DNA contains a trait that would make one strong, then the more and more it's passed along, the more and more diluted that strain becomes so in a way yes, but with that being said, Naruto, Tsunade and Sasuke are all EXTRAORDINARILY strong ninjas from their clans respectively and I don't think that them being further descendants makes them "Weaker". Sasuke is definitely stronger than at least 3/4 of all the Uchiha from his generation (from what we've seen). Naruto is definitely stronger than the few Uzumakis we've seen (Karin, Kushina, don't know about Mito but probably at this point and a bit stronger than Nagato IMO) and Tsunade may not be as strong as Hashirama or Tobirama, but she HAS to be stronger than other Senjus had ever gotten so I'm gonna disagree with you here. Keep in mind that (with the exception of Tsunade) Naruto and Sasuke are THIS STRONG AND THEY'RE ONLY 16!!! Hashirama and Madara are definitely the strongest, but that's also because they're products of a different generation, it was LITERALLY be the strongest you can be...or die.
 
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Well Sasuke is going to surpass Madara because thas one of the moral of the story, young will always surprass old.

And only because Hashi is a senju and Naruto is an Uzumaki, so yes Hashi is the storngest Senju. And that Madara is the strongest Uchiha right now

But Naruto now represents the younger son and Sasuke represents the older son and between them Naruto is the closest to the Sage of Six Paths
 

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Well that's just pure genetics. If one strain of DNA contains a trait that would make one strong, then the more and more it's passed along, the more and more diluted that strain becomes so in a way yes, but with that being said, Naruto, Tsunade and Sasuke are all EXTRAORDINARILY strong ninjas from their clans respectively and I don't think that them being further descendants makes them "Weaker". Sasuke is definitely stronger than at least 3/4 of all the Uchiha from his generation (from what we've seen). Naruto is definitely stronger than the few Uzumakis we've seen (Karin, Kushina, don't know about Mito but probably at this point and a bit stronger than Nagato IMO) and Tsunade may not be as strong as Hashirama or Tobirama, but she HAS to be stronger than other Senjus had ever gotten so I'm gonna disagree with you here. Keep in mind that (with the exception of Tsunade) Naruto and Sasuke are THIS STRONG AND THEY'RE ONLY 16!!! Hashirama and Madara are definitely the strongest, but that's also because they're products of a different generation, it was LITERALLY be the strongest you can be...or die.

very good points, and i also understand that madara and hashirama can be this strong from the back ground they were in, but my theory is applied the two distend senju vs uchiha shinobis (coz they are known examples of different generations), sons of so6p were stronger than madara and hashi, hashi and madara are stronger than naruto and sasuke. it doesn't mean that ALL the past senju and uchiha generations were stronger than ALL the new generations
 
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could hashirama and madara be the strongest senju and uchiha because they are a closer generation to the two sons of the so6p ??

wtf^, no that s60p sons exsisted hundreds of years and died before madara and hashirama were born
 

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My theory is that:
That the younger son beated the older is not due to the fact that the younger was good. The one who beats becomes good:D
 
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