(theory) who killed hashirama?

[izunaxems]

If we look closely on Edo Tensei we can see that all the revived people are just before they were killed,example:Nagato,Chiyo,Haku ect
So if Hashirama died in an old age narutal/killing reason he should have been revived oldy during oro/hiruzen fight.Tobirama Nidaime is a confirmation of this and he was killed after fighting kinkaku/ginkaku.
For the moment i haven't it clear but the only one that comes in my mind for the moment is tsuschikage sensei(previous tsuschikage)....MUU with his jinton
here we have a puzzle
kakuzu said to have fought hashirama;
kakuzu have fought against/alongside kinkaku(his statement in the war confirmed this)
kinkaku has fought nidaime
madara has fought and lost to hashirama
oonoki has fought madara(raikage statement but it's unknown if he was tsuschikage since then)
let's make a ranking from the weakest to the strongest here
kakuzu-->nidaime hokage=kinkagu/ginkaku--->oonoki--->madara---->(lost)hashirama
If oonoki sensei MUU was still alive then he probably must have been stronger than his student and probably a little stronger than madara, and MUU during a fight with hashirama ended up killing each other.

not very likely, i know but this is just a guess, i m totally against this

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

he could of just die in his sleep? or in battle

 

[lol99]

if kishi ever shows a flashback he is more likely to show that hashirama died due to natural causes, injuries sustained from a lifetime of battles or overuse of self healing cause kishi wont let his precious be hokages defeated in battle :/ (except for tobirama)

so hashirama defeated in a battle is unlikely

 

[Bogard]

How do you know Tobirama died after his fight against Kin/Gin brothers?

 

[skehan17]

nah wasn't it stated in a recent manga that Madara didn't fight at full power agaisnt Onki due to him being so young?

 

[cyco22]

did tobirama died by kinkaku n ginkaku

 

[0moi]

How do you know Tobirama died after his fight against Kin/Gin brothers?

They were amoung the ranks of Kumogakure's shinobi that Konohagakure had to fight during the 1st Shinobi World War, seeing that these two were very known for being some of Kumogakure's, best at the time, its very likely that they would be sent to fight the Hokage. It's not stated [not that I know of that is] but very likely. Also their weapons could PWN any shinobi that didn't know their effects.

 

[Martano]

He must have died of old age, that's my theory. I mean the guy defeated the perfect Susanoo!! Haha!

 

[Bogard]

They were amoung the ranks of Kumogakure's shinobi that Konohagakure had to fight during the 1st Shinobi World War, seeing that these two were very known for being some of Kumogakure's, best at the time, its very likely that they would be sent to fight the Hokage. It's not stated [not that I know of that is] but very likely. Also their weapons could PWN any shinobi that didn't know their effects.

Yes but in the manga it's stated that Tobirama was on the verge of death after this fight, but that means he was actually still alive

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Most things said in this thread was BS but involved the right characters, most of what you said has not been stated in the manga.

 

[Kratos of cruxis]

Hashirama was killed by fodders

 

[Seraphiel]

We don't know how he died.

 

[0moi]

Yes but in the manga it's stated that Tobirama was on the verge of death after this fight, but that means he was actually still alive

"How do you know Tobirama died after his fight against Kin/Gin brothers?"

I'm just comfirming that he did in fact die after fighting Kumogakure, which means he most likely fought The Gold & Silver Bros, because Tobirama was Hokage & they were 2 of Kumogakure's strongest. I'm not implying they killed him during their battle, but something they did might have lead up to his death which was after their battle was already over.

Getting back on subject, think for a sec when did Hashirama die exactly? It was before Tobirama, who died while Hiruzen, Danzou, Homura, etc were still quite young like 13-15 I think. So whoever killed Hashirama was from this era, now think of notable shinobi who were alive at the time. Kakuza tried & failed so I doubt it was him [remember I said doubt lol]

 

[Unleashed26]

tobirama died sacrificing himself so hiruzen, danzo, and the rest of team tobirama get away alive. he named hiruzen the 3 before he left to fight the ninjas chasing them

also to thread creator: edo tensei doesn't revive people to how they were right before they died. it revives them to the point of their life when they were at their prime. and before anyone brings up madara; he only had the rinnegan because kabuto made sure that he came back better than he was in his prime.

 

[Braveknight]

brain connection ****ing got lost

 

[0moi]

tobirama died sacrificing himself so hiruzen, danzo, and the rest of team tobirama get away alive. he named hiruzen the 3 before he left to fight the ninjas chasing them

....We already knew this but the Thread ? is; who killed hashirama?, not who killed Tobirama?

 

[MadaraHashirama]

I...
I killed Hashirama, it was me!

 

[0moi]

tobirama died sacrificing himself so hiruzen, danzo, and the rest of team tobirama get away alive. he named hiruzen the 3 before he left to fight the ninjas chasing them

also to thread creator: edo tensei doesn't revive people to how they were right before they died. it revives them to the point of their life when they were at their prime. and before anyone brings up madara; he only had the rinnegan because kabuto made sure that he came back better than he was in his prime.

....No Edo Tensei revives people to how they were before thier death, not their primes, examples; Chiyo's prime was when she was much younger, she was brought back as a phoquen fossil lol, Nagato's prime was when he gained full control of rinnegan, he was also brought back incredibly aged and inable to walk.... that's not prime chief

 

[~Uzumaki~]

There were ninjas on Hashi's level during his time but they were weaker than him, then probably teamed up against him, just looking at this generation I can pick 3 or 4 people that can beat Hashirama if they teamed up against him,

 

[Anorien16]

My guess:
1. Heart-attack no jutsu.
2. Injuries-from-fight-with-Madara no jutsu.
3. After-mArriage no jutsu.
4. Caught-cheating no jutsu.
5. After-reading/watching-Twilight no jutsu.

Most of the men in the world die form reason 3 and 4 while reason 5 causes brain death to normal people.

If we look closely on Edo Tensei we can see that all the revived people are just before they were killed,example:Nagato,Chiyo,Haku ect
So if Hashirama died in an old age narutal/killing reason he should have been revived oldy during oro/hiruzen fight.Tobirama Nidaime is a confirmation of this and he was killed after fighting kinkaku/ginkaku.
For the moment i haven't it clear but the only one that comes in my mind for the moment is tsuschikage sensei(previous tsuschikage)....MUU with his jinton
here we have a puzzle
kakuzu said to have fought hashirama;
kakuzu have fought against/alongside kinkaku(his statement in the war confirmed this)
kinkaku has fought nidaime
madara has fought and lost to hashirama
oonoki has fought madara(raikage statement but it's unknown if he was tsuschikage since then)
let's make a ranking from the weakest to the strongest here
kakuzu-->nidaime hokage=kinkagu/ginkaku--->oonoki--->madara---->(lost)hashirama
If oonoki sensei MUU was still alive then he probably must have been stronger than his student and probably a little stronger than madara, and MUU during a fight with hashirama ended up killing each other.

not very likely, i know but this is just a guess, i m totally against this

Note a few things:
1. Kakazu prolonged his life by stealing hearts.
2. Hashi trained Hizune with his brother and if Hashi fought Madara after training Hizu, this it wld mean Madara naturally knew Onoki as both Onoki and Hizu are the third kage of their village.