[Theory] The Unknown S/T Jutsu User [The White Fang]

[FearxDeath]

Well to answer two of those questions..Minato never had the chance probably to record it in a scroll ..Plus Kakashi probably learned from using his sharingan to copy it..Possible reason why he doesn't use it it takes alot of chakra for it to be really effective in close combat..Naruto and Jiraya are good at close combat fighting.

You realize you didnt answer a single one of my questions? Were you talking to me?

Going to sleep now, ill reply to your replies in tommorow

 

[Almighty Ra]

1) That too is possible but you have to consider that Minato displayed the use of FTG prior to him being annouced as Hokage. His time as team leader of Kakashi, Obito and Rin would be a good example of that.

2) Secondly it is possible that he could have gotten it from a forbidden scroll left by Tobirama but then you have explain why Minato would have been snooping around reading forbidden scrolls. For Oro this makes sense because he is a villian but not as much for Minato.

3) If Minato was able to get his hands on the scroll then why wouldnt Oro too when he got his hands on the Edo scroll? Maybe Minato stole said scroll and left the edo scroll there? Or maybe Tobirama hide a bunch of different scrolls all over the place? You assumption posits too many presumptions in order for it to be true, while mine only posits that Tobirama teach Sakumo.

1) The third hokage could have showed him how to since he was a prodigy..Possibly saw his potential and showedh i mthe scroll.
2) I don't see that in his character of being a thief or snoop..Again more then likely the Third Hokage taught him and allowed him access to it the scroll.
3)Highly unlikely I think he was taught and my speculation again it had to be the Third Hokage..Oro possibly since he was experimenting on people and many were missing in the village could have stolen the data from Tobirama's dna or grave(remember shinobi bodies hold alot of jutsu hence they are valuable) Out of revenge for not being appointed 4th Hokage when Hiruzen retired. Yet ur assuming as well that Tobirama taught the White fang..these are jus theories

 

[Almighty Ra]

My apologies i never hit the reply to Untung questions they had no reference to yours

 

[Almighty Ra]

Nice theory....
But......
1. every jutsu have theory and have scrool to keep the jutsu remmember, read chapter 1 - 4. Naruto steel kagebushin scrol to learn it. And he can learn better from the scrol then in class with iruka. But some jutsu not every one can use it ( blood line or cakra pool )
2. Rasengan is S-Rank jutsu ( minato create it, jiraya use it, naruto make it perfect ) but kakashi can use it to... But why kakashi never use it??
3. Edo jutsu this is tobirama jutsu, but lets find the connection betwen tobirama and oro?? Tobi is the teacher for hiruzen, and when oro study under hiruzen tobi is death to... But how oro can learn edo jutsu??
4. Now FTG, yes tobi create this justsu but minato modify this jutsu using kunai, genma + 2 friends he can use it to but need 3 of them to use FTG.

So my opinion is yes every jutsu is recorded in a scroll so this jutsu can pass down to the next generation, not every one can learn it but you can find the corect one for your style.

Well to answer two of those questions..Minato never had the chance probably to record it in a scroll ..Plus Kakashi probably learned from using his sharingan to copy it..Possible reason why he doesn't use it it takes alot of chakra for it to be really effective in close combat..Naruto and Jiraya are good at close combat fighting.

 

[uchihamad]

Nice thread.What if he gets the name white fang of konoha because when he use space time ninjutsu the only thing that visible in his movement is the white light from his blade and hair ? The same thing as Minato.

 

[Almighty Ra]

Nice thread.What if he gets the name white fang of konoha because when he use space time ninjutsu the only thing that visible in his movement is the white light from his blade and hair ? The same thing as Minato.

It's more in reference to his blade the white light chakra saber..Thats why he was given the name Konoha's White Fang..Nothing to do with S/t sorry

 

[uchihamad]

It's more in reference to his blade the white light chakra saber..Thats why he was given the name Konoha's White Fang..Nothing to do with S/t sorry

Lol...... If he only grab the sword but not moving it will not be look like the white fang.So it is really have to do with space

time ninjutsu. Remember when kid kakashi attacked ninja Iwagakure ninja the the ninja only felt it like white fang of konoha becase when kakashi slashed the opponent with speed.So it really have to do with speed and movement.

 

[Almighty Ra]

Lol...... If he only grab the sword but not moving it will not be look like the white fang.So it is really have to do with space

time ninjutsu. Remember when kid kakashi attacked ninja Iwagakure ninja the the ninja only felt it like white fang of konoha becase when kakashi slashed the opponent with speed.So it really have to do with speed and movement.

No it doesn't his blade glowed white when he infused his chakra into it..Kakashi jus infused it like his father did and it glows white..Kakashi was fast because of his skill nothing to do with S/t or the tanto blade..

 

[Stark]

S/T is almost as common as the Sharingan/MS.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

I'm pretty sure Minato created FTG by analyzing Uzumaki seal techniques he learned from his wife.

 

[FearxDeath]

I'm pretty sure Minato created FTG by analyzing Uzumaki seal techniques he learned from his wife.

Did you even read the thread? There is indefinant proof that Tobirama used FTG...

1) The third hokage could have showed him how to since he was a prodigy..Possibly saw his potential and showedh i mthe scroll.
2) I don't see that in his character of being a thief or snoop..Again more then likely the Third Hokage taught him and allowed him access to it the scroll.
3)Highly unlikely I think he was taught and my speculation again it had to be the Third Hokage..Oro possibly since he was experimenting on people and many were missing in the village could have stolen the data from Tobirama's dna or grave(remember shinobi bodies hold alot of jutsu hence they are valuable) Out of revenge for not being appointed 4th Hokage when Hiruzen retired. Yet ur assuming as well that Tobirama taught the White fang..these are jus theories

1) Of all the scrolls to be seen and had he showed him FTG for no particular reason. Remember there is a huge scroll filled with forbidden jusu, which obviously isnt as fordidden as we all thought it was. The entire village was in a panic when Naruto took the forbidden scroll but he just lets Minato use it, no real reason you just say its a possibility. Which it is, and its a possibility that ill have a heart attack right now. But which is more likely, mine theory or yours. Ill answer this in my thread.

2) And your idea is that Hiruzen show him this forbidden scroll because he was a "Prodigy" but in the ninja handbook Minato graduated from the academy at age 10, kakashi did at age 5. Itachi did at age 7. Orochimaru at age 6 and Jiriaya at age 6. There were other geniuses out there. So now you have to explain what "other than him being a "prodigy"" made Hiruzen chose Minato... which ofcourse you cant because there is no proof of any of this.

3) You say that my theory is unlikely but you havent dont anything to make mine look unlikely, you just introduce an alternate and out of no where say it is more likely than mine even though your "theory" introduces ALOT of question while mine does not. Look up occams razor. Ninjas bodys retain alot of jutsu? Explain this to me as I dont remember this. Ive got no clue why you brought up orochimaru? could you elaborate on the point you made in section, I reread it 3 times and cant grasp how it makes a point and disproves mine.

I added a new section to the thread "Update 2" to further talk on this subject.

 

[Minator93]

Who taught The Edo Tensei to Orochimaru??

 

[FearxDeath]

Who taught The Edo Tensei to Orochimaru??

Orochimaru learned ET from a scroll left behind by Tobirama. If you dont know that then you should read the manga more often X__x

 

[Space Cowboy]

I wouldnt have ever even thought of half that shit great theory. Very plausible. I agree with everything excluding the update. Time will tell whether or not they use the same technique. Dont forget that Minato uses FTG V2. Id assume Tobirama was the inventor of V1

 

[FearxDeath]

I wouldnt have ever even thought of half that shit great theory. Very plausible. I agree with everything excluding the update. Time will tell whether or not they use the same technique. Dont forget that Minato uses FTG V2. Id assume Tobirama was the inventor of V1

Yes, but even at that you have to know that there is a V1 in order to call your jutsu V2. Perhaps he just perfected FTG but that doesnt change the fact that Tobirama invented it and it doesnt change the fact that Minato had to have learned it from someone in order to perfect it.

Glad you liked the thread though

 

[Minator93]

Orochimaru learned ET from a scroll left behind by Tobirama. If you dont know that then you should read the manga more often X__x

Minato did the same thing U_U He prolly learned the FTG from a scroll Tobirama left behind by Tobirama

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[~Zonta~]

Great work and awesome work ......

it was a great read =D

 

[PrinceMyshkin]

Wow not only is this plausible, but also very unique. Great idea! I like the comparison of their two nicknames I was thinking that while I was still only partly through and was so happy you mentioned it.

I do think it's plausible that Minato developed FTG on his own, after all he has been hyped as a once in a generation genius. But what he told Obito about Kakashi's dad would make so much more sense if he had known him.

On the other hand the White Fang might have been too old to have known Minato. I bet there was overlap between them, but it is still weird that they'd meet. Minato was probably still very young at the time of his suicide.

 

[Space Cowboy]

Yes, but even at that you have to know that there is a V1 in order to call your jutsu V2. Perhaps he just perfected FTG but that doesnt change the fact that Tobirama invented it and it doesnt change the fact that Minato had to have learned it from someone in order to perfect it.

Glad you liked the thread though

Oh yeah im not disagreeing that Tobirama was the original inventor. Im assuming Minato improved upon it and made it more efficient, kind of like how his edo tensei was taken and improved upon. But yeah keep the theories coming man theyre always good

 

[FearxDeath]

Minato did the same thing U_U He prolly learned the FTG from a scroll Tobirama left behind by Tobirama

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I already talked about this in my thread. Read the UPDATE 2 section and leave a comment on your ideas on you. You seem like a pretty bright guy so I would like to hear your take on it.