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I have come to the conclusion that Rinne Tensei No Jutsu does not kill the caster when reviving a dead person, but kills the caster when reviving an Edo Tensei Zombie like Madara.
Take a look at this:
Konan was concerned with the idea of Nagato casting Rinne Tensei based on his low chakra levels, if Rinne Tensei automatically kills the person who casts it, then Konan would not have been worried with Nagato's low chakra levels when performing the jutsu, but she was, which leads me to conclude that the caster who has an adequate or surplus levels of chakra would not die upon casting Rinne Tensei.
This leads me to believe that Tobi/Obito really did intend to revive Madara:
Why would Tobi lament on Nagato's death and the waste of Rinne Tensei if Tobi didn't plan to revive Madara all along? you can clearly see how disappointed he was about what happened, and he said "It (Rinne Tensei) is supposed to be for me" meaning the use/purpose of the Rinne Tensei No Jutsu was supposed to be for his purpose, and who was the person that needed reviving based on the faithful idea of the Eye of the Moon Plan? Madara Uchiha.
So Tobi wanted to revive Madara, he laments on the loss of Nagato and Rinne Tensei, and I have already established that based on Konan's words, the caster does not die casting Rinne Tensei as long as the caster has an adequate and healthy amount of chakra reserves (which Nagato didn't have when he casted it that lead to his death) so it's highly probable that Tobi intended to retrieve the Rinnegan and revive Madara
But, there was a problem: 30-40+ chapters later, this happened:
Kabuto Edo Tensei's Madara:
Now if Tobi intended all along to revive Madara and saw him being reanimated with Edo Tensei inside that coffin, then why was he uncomfortable with the idea of having Edo Madara around who may popped out of that coffin if Kabuto wished him to.
The Answer: Tobi knows that if he revives Madara while he is still an Edo, he(Tobi) will die when he uses Rinne Tensei
It is my theory, that since Tobi immediately recognized the technique (when Kabuto first shows the edo akatsuki members, he immediately recognizes it as Edo Tensei) he has the knowledge that reviving an Edo Zombie with Rinne Tensei would cause death to the caster He probably got this knowledge from Madara (since Madara himself recognizes the technique when he popped out of that coffin)
That is why Tobi was so eager to know how to cancel the technique:
You can see how the word "stop" was bolded? you can see Tobi's eagerness to know how to stop the technique, but why would he want to know how to unsummon the Edo zombies if the zombies serve as his military force in the war?
The Answer: He wanted to know how to unsummon the Edo Tensei of Madara so he can revive Madara's spirit from the Pure World so he (Tobi) didn't have to die casting Rinne Tensei to revive him (Madara)
That is why Tobi was so frustrated when he found out that Kabuto finally let Edo Madara out of his coffin, Tobi lost his chance to release Madara's spirit back to the afterlife
Now he has no choice but to revive Madara while in Edo form, which would cost him his life, and I'm sure Edo Madara will insist on his revival even under Edo form, because it is highly doubtful if Madara would allow his soul to be unsummoned again back to the afterlife and gamble his chances of Tobi reviving him with Rinne Tensei afterwards (Edo Madara was already there, why would he (Madara) want to unsummon himself back to the afterlife?) Naturally Madara wants to get the show on the road without further delays, not to mention the fact that Zhe had yet to learn if Nagato's fate during that time (as seen in his inquiry about Nagato's fate to Obito in ch.601 p.12)so Tobi is now stuck with the prospect of death from reviving Madara while under Edo Tensei.
Now we see the discussion here between Tobi/Obito and Edo Madara regarding his (Madara's) revival with Rinne Tensei while under Edo Tensei form:
You can see that Obito is in a serious dilemma, and I think I know why:
I think Obito is incapable of becoming the Juubi's Jinchuuriki himself because half of his body is artificial
So he needed someone with a full living body to become the Juubi's Jinchuuriki.
Not to mention the necessity of Madara to cast the genjutsu of Mugen Tsukoyomi.
He needed Madara as a real living body rather than an Edo Zombie. which leads to his very serious dilemma:
a.) He doesn't revive Edo Madara with Rinne Tensei, but the Juubi will break free from their control, thus the Eye of the Moon Plan (their goal) will fail.
or
b.) He revives Edo Madara with Rinne Tensei so that Madara could become the Juubi's Jinchuuriki but he would die in the process of using Rinne Tensei.
So which is more important to him? his (Obito's) life, or his ideals? Is Obito willing to sacrifice his life for the ideology he and Madara shares, we will find out in the upcoming chapters.
None the less:
My conclusion is this: Obito wanted to revive Madara all along with Rinne Tensei, but Kabuto jeopardized his plan by reviving Madara with Edo Tensei, and reviving someone under Edo Tensei would cost the caster of Rinne Tensei his own life resulting to death.
UPDATE 1
Why Rinne Tensei'ng an Edo causes death compared to RT a normal dead person:
I think the reason is that trying to revive an Edo with RT instead of a normal dead person would magnify the chakra cost to the point that it would definitely result in the caster's death
Take for example Edo Tensei the soul is summoned from the Pure World to reanimate in the Impure World The same can be said of Rinne Tensei The soul from the Pure World is summoned back to its' body in the Impure World.
But to Rinne Tensei an Edo, that would mean that the soul in the impure world is sent back to the pure world and resummoned again in the impure world which most probably magnifies the chakra amount needed to perform it resulting in the caster's demise.
RT normal dead person:
Pure World ------------ RT-----------Impure World = high chakra amount needed
RT an Edo:
Impure World -----------Pure World-----------RT------ Impure World= fatal amnt. of chakra needed
UPDATE 2
Concerning the veracity of Konan's statement
We must take Konan's statement as canon because none of you can say as an absolute fact that Konan was wrong because Obito said that using RT on Edo Madara would kill him, it is a categorical error because you cannot measure the veracity or truthfulness of her statement based on the situation of Edo Madara and Obito, Konan was stating the mechanism of Rinne Tensei under normal conditions when RT is used on normally dead people while Edo Madara's case is a different situation wherein his condition is that of an Edo Zombie which is unnatural. So the only logical conclusion is Rinne Tensei does not automatically kill the caster if his/her chakra reserves is adequate (based on Konan's statement) but using RT on an Edo Zombie does.
UPDATE 3
In relation to the length of the time of death, the state of the corpses' decomposition and the number of dead people that needs reviving with Rinne Tensei
It is not the length of the duration of death, but the proximity of the body that nullified the chances of reviving someone like Jiraiya. His corpse is under the sea therefore RT could not have possibly reached him. That is why Madara needed to rendezvous with Obito so the latter could revive him. The length of time Nagato was referring to in relation to his use of RT on the dead villagers is in reference to his current chakra level since it's slowly being depleted due to fatigue, so the factoring in of the length of the time of death is a moot point. The correct and objective factors that should be taken into consideration are: The number of dead persons to revive, and, the condition of the bodies that are in the onset of decomposition, the most probable reason for Nagato being in a hurry was because the amount of chakra needed to successfully perform Rinne Tensei is directly proportional to the number of the deceased that will be resurrected and the physical condition of the corpses that are in a continuous state of decomposition since the time of death, if Nagato did not hurry to revive them, the onset of decomposition would exponentially increase the required amount of chakra to revive such a large number of people, so Nagato needed to hurry while the bodies remained "fresh" for any further delay in his part would rapidly increase the chakra requirement of reviving numerous people and therefore when that point is reached, even in his full chakra,it would be impossible to successfully revive all of them.
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Konan was concerned with the idea of Nagato casting Rinne Tensei based on his low chakra levels, if Rinne Tensei automatically kills the person who casts it, then Konan would not have been worried with Nagato's low chakra levels when performing the jutsu, but she was, which leads me to conclude that the caster who has an adequate or surplus levels of chakra would not die upon casting Rinne Tensei.
This leads me to believe that Tobi/Obito really did intend to revive Madara:
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Why would Tobi lament on Nagato's death and the waste of Rinne Tensei if Tobi didn't plan to revive Madara all along? you can clearly see how disappointed he was about what happened, and he said "It (Rinne Tensei) is supposed to be for me" meaning the use/purpose of the Rinne Tensei No Jutsu was supposed to be for his purpose, and who was the person that needed reviving based on the faithful idea of the Eye of the Moon Plan? Madara Uchiha.
So Tobi wanted to revive Madara, he laments on the loss of Nagato and Rinne Tensei, and I have already established that based on Konan's words, the caster does not die casting Rinne Tensei as long as the caster has an adequate and healthy amount of chakra reserves (which Nagato didn't have when he casted it that lead to his death) so it's highly probable that Tobi intended to retrieve the Rinnegan and revive Madara
But, there was a problem: 30-40+ chapters later, this happened:
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Kabuto Edo Tensei's Madara:
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Now if Tobi intended all along to revive Madara and saw him being reanimated with Edo Tensei inside that coffin, then why was he uncomfortable with the idea of having Edo Madara around who may popped out of that coffin if Kabuto wished him to.
The Answer: Tobi knows that if he revives Madara while he is still an Edo, he(Tobi) will die when he uses Rinne Tensei
It is my theory, that since Tobi immediately recognized the technique (when Kabuto first shows the edo akatsuki members, he immediately recognizes it as Edo Tensei) he has the knowledge that reviving an Edo Zombie with Rinne Tensei would cause death to the caster He probably got this knowledge from Madara (since Madara himself recognizes the technique when he popped out of that coffin)
That is why Tobi was so eager to know how to cancel the technique:
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You can see how the word "stop" was bolded? you can see Tobi's eagerness to know how to stop the technique, but why would he want to know how to unsummon the Edo zombies if the zombies serve as his military force in the war?
The Answer: He wanted to know how to unsummon the Edo Tensei of Madara so he can revive Madara's spirit from the Pure World so he (Tobi) didn't have to die casting Rinne Tensei to revive him (Madara)
That is why Tobi was so frustrated when he found out that Kabuto finally let Edo Madara out of his coffin, Tobi lost his chance to release Madara's spirit back to the afterlife
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Now he has no choice but to revive Madara while in Edo form, which would cost him his life, and I'm sure Edo Madara will insist on his revival even under Edo form, because it is highly doubtful if Madara would allow his soul to be unsummoned again back to the afterlife and gamble his chances of Tobi reviving him with Rinne Tensei afterwards (Edo Madara was already there, why would he (Madara) want to unsummon himself back to the afterlife?) Naturally Madara wants to get the show on the road without further delays, not to mention the fact that Zhe had yet to learn if Nagato's fate during that time (as seen in his inquiry about Nagato's fate to Obito in ch.601 p.12)so Tobi is now stuck with the prospect of death from reviving Madara while under Edo Tensei.
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Now we see the discussion here between Tobi/Obito and Edo Madara regarding his (Madara's) revival with Rinne Tensei while under Edo Tensei form:
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You can see that Obito is in a serious dilemma, and I think I know why:
I think Obito is incapable of becoming the Juubi's Jinchuuriki himself because half of his body is artificial
So he needed someone with a full living body to become the Juubi's Jinchuuriki.
Not to mention the necessity of Madara to cast the genjutsu of Mugen Tsukoyomi.
He needed Madara as a real living body rather than an Edo Zombie. which leads to his very serious dilemma:
a.) He doesn't revive Edo Madara with Rinne Tensei, but the Juubi will break free from their control, thus the Eye of the Moon Plan (their goal) will fail.
or
b.) He revives Edo Madara with Rinne Tensei so that Madara could become the Juubi's Jinchuuriki but he would die in the process of using Rinne Tensei.
So which is more important to him? his (Obito's) life, or his ideals? Is Obito willing to sacrifice his life for the ideology he and Madara shares, we will find out in the upcoming chapters.
None the less:
My conclusion is this: Obito wanted to revive Madara all along with Rinne Tensei, but Kabuto jeopardized his plan by reviving Madara with Edo Tensei, and reviving someone under Edo Tensei would cost the caster of Rinne Tensei his own life resulting to death.
UPDATE 1
Why Rinne Tensei'ng an Edo causes death compared to RT a normal dead person:
I think the reason is that trying to revive an Edo with RT instead of a normal dead person would magnify the chakra cost to the point that it would definitely result in the caster's death
Take for example Edo Tensei the soul is summoned from the Pure World to reanimate in the Impure World The same can be said of Rinne Tensei The soul from the Pure World is summoned back to its' body in the Impure World.
But to Rinne Tensei an Edo, that would mean that the soul in the impure world is sent back to the pure world and resummoned again in the impure world which most probably magnifies the chakra amount needed to perform it resulting in the caster's demise.
RT normal dead person:
Pure World ------------ RT-----------Impure World = high chakra amount needed
RT an Edo:
Impure World -----------Pure World-----------RT------ Impure World= fatal amnt. of chakra needed
UPDATE 2
Concerning the veracity of Konan's statement
We must take Konan's statement as canon because none of you can say as an absolute fact that Konan was wrong because Obito said that using RT on Edo Madara would kill him, it is a categorical error because you cannot measure the veracity or truthfulness of her statement based on the situation of Edo Madara and Obito, Konan was stating the mechanism of Rinne Tensei under normal conditions when RT is used on normally dead people while Edo Madara's case is a different situation wherein his condition is that of an Edo Zombie which is unnatural. So the only logical conclusion is Rinne Tensei does not automatically kill the caster if his/her chakra reserves is adequate (based on Konan's statement) but using RT on an Edo Zombie does.
UPDATE 3
In relation to the length of the time of death, the state of the corpses' decomposition and the number of dead people that needs reviving with Rinne Tensei
It is not the length of the duration of death, but the proximity of the body that nullified the chances of reviving someone like Jiraiya. His corpse is under the sea therefore RT could not have possibly reached him. That is why Madara needed to rendezvous with Obito so the latter could revive him. The length of time Nagato was referring to in relation to his use of RT on the dead villagers is in reference to his current chakra level since it's slowly being depleted due to fatigue, so the factoring in of the length of the time of death is a moot point. The correct and objective factors that should be taken into consideration are: The number of dead persons to revive, and, the condition of the bodies that are in the onset of decomposition, the most probable reason for Nagato being in a hurry was because the amount of chakra needed to successfully perform Rinne Tensei is directly proportional to the number of the deceased that will be resurrected and the physical condition of the corpses that are in a continuous state of decomposition since the time of death, if Nagato did not hurry to revive them, the onset of decomposition would exponentially increase the required amount of chakra to revive such a large number of people, so Nagato needed to hurry while the bodies remained "fresh" for any further delay in his part would rapidly increase the chakra requirement of reviving numerous people and therefore when that point is reached, even in his full chakra,it would be impossible to successfully revive all of them.
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