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INTRUDUCTION + Reason of the thread
Hello guys, I must admit that This latest chapter brought a lot of new info:
revealing a bit backstory of Juubi vs Sage of six paths conflict, also How Sage of six paths was so powerfull even before sealing Juubi in himself. This and more info was revealed by Uchiha Madara. Of course some of you may think that Madara could lie or change meaning of some words to make people loose hope and give up accepting his Mugen Tsukyiomi Genjutsu. However it is not specially true as Madara only revealed this truth to Hashirama Senjuu while their battle, so Madara couldn't gain anything from lying to Hashirama, besides make Hashirama's will weaker and easier to break, but it could be really minor profit, not worth efforts of Madara lying to Hashirama.
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revealing a bit backstory of Juubi vs Sage of six paths conflict, also How Sage of six paths was so powerfull even before sealing Juubi in himself. This and more info was revealed by Uchiha Madara. Of course some of you may think that Madara could lie or change meaning of some words to make people loose hope and give up accepting his Mugen Tsukyiomi Genjutsu. However it is not specially true as Madara only revealed this truth to Hashirama Senjuu while their battle, so Madara couldn't gain anything from lying to Hashirama, besides make Hashirama's will weaker and easier to break, but it could be really minor profit, not worth efforts of Madara lying to Hashirama.
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Explanation concerning Madara reading Uchiha Tablet
After all this first part I wanted to state That what Madara actually said should be considered as 100 % Truth as manga fact. However I and some other readers can even feel that something is missing... this is like NOT complete story was revealed to us. But why it could happen ? Madara read Uchiha Tablet although, while it is true... we have to remind that Madara read Tablet with Eternal mangenkyou Sharingan. Upgraded Occular power of Sharingan which can read even more content then it's base form. BUT only Rinnengan is said to be able to read COMPLETE CONTENT written on Ancient Tablet...
Why it seems very unlikely for Madara to read Uchiha Tablet with Rinnengan ?
In The picture where Madara is shown awakening Rinnengan, he is very old man. That why it is very unlikely for Old man Madara to read content of Stone Tablet with Rinnengan. Also after Madara was summoned via Edo Tensei in The war... he has not time to go to Uchiha temple and read content of Tablet with Rinnengan. Well there could be one time... but it would be asspull from Kishi. When Madara beat Five Kages almost to death then he wasn't seen until getting to where Obito was fighting against Naruto and co, so this was really small span of time for Madara to went to konoha and come back in such short time.
After making sure that Madara has little to none option to read Uchiha tablet with Rinnengan, let's assume that he didn't read it with Rinnengan. Now what is a big deal to read Complete story instead of The most part of story ? why could be such important ? simply because Knowledge is power, more you know the more powerfull you can be.
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Why it seems very unlikely for Madara to read Uchiha Tablet with Rinnengan ?
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In The picture where Madara is shown awakening Rinnengan, he is very old man. That why it is very unlikely for Old man Madara to read content of Stone Tablet with Rinnengan. Also after Madara was summoned via Edo Tensei in The war... he has not time to go to Uchiha temple and read content of Tablet with Rinnengan. Well there could be one time... but it would be asspull from Kishi. When Madara beat Five Kages almost to death then he wasn't seen until getting to where Obito was fighting against Naruto and co, so this was really small span of time for Madara to went to konoha and come back in such short time.
After making sure that Madara has little to none option to read Uchiha tablet with Rinnengan, let's assume that he didn't read it with Rinnengan. Now what is a big deal to read Complete story instead of The most part of story ? why could be such important ? simply because Knowledge is power, more you know the more powerfull you can be.
CONTENT WRITTEN ON ANCIENT STONE TABLET
Ok, now considering all the knowledge we already have about The Sage an the begining of Shinobi World.. let's try to find missing parts, untold by Madara parts of story. Of course first missing part of story could be Creation of Mankind and Where this Tree of God came from ? also who created the Planet which is known to us as Shinobi World ?
From what we have known so far The God Tree wasn't involved in creation of The World, same with creation of Mankind, also nothing was stated that The God Tree is resposible for creation of The Planet, even World. However using logic could bring us to conclusion that The Almighty God Tree created at least animals and plants also entire landscapes, in short The World. To deciphere and give logical explanation about this missing part, how it really went down ?, to answer this question we have first to find possible Concept/idea on what myth/mythology The God Tree used by Kishi is based on. Honestly I believe that most likely and most fitting could be The bible.
Ok, so if we are going by Concept of the Bible Then In the bible it was stated that One Day God decided to create The world, Planets and Space. Considering it as truth, it could mean that So all-powerfull almighty God was also involved in creation of The Planet and Mankind in Narutoverse. Creation of Planet could be easy to understand and logical one... while Creation of Mankind could seems a stretch to some of you, but in the bible The God created humans to look like him/in his image. The God planting The God Tree as first on the planet could make a lot of sense also, This could clear up doubts about what was first, Mankind or The God Tree ?
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could be hint from Kishi that really God exist and may take part in Flow of life on The planet.
Nagato said "or maybe this is the hand of The Real God"
From this point The story could went smoothly that Some Princess Kaguya broke God rule tooking and eating Forbidden fruit from that Tree. Then Princess Kaguya got Godly powers and defeat all her enemies stopping wars. The God Tree was mad at her and changing shape of monster(Juubi) cursed her and maybe killed her. The curse mean that she won't be able to give birth, however After many prayers and asking for forgivness and second chance the almighty God decided to give her second chance showing a little mercy. Actually The God itself may be involved in birth of child named Hagoromo Ootsnuki later known as Sage of six paths to us.
This could also make Sage of six paths half of God... as The God was his father and Princess Kaguya was his mother but there is also possibility that The God was reborn in human body aka Sage of six paths .Juubi killed Kaguya and enraged by God giving second chance to Princess also breaking The God Tree curse went furious and attacked Mankind trying to destroy it, but was stopped by Hagoromo Ootsnuki, son of Human mother with Godly powers and The God father.
The we knew that sage of six paths defeated Juubi and became it's Jinchurki. at his deathbed The Sage unsealed Juubi while dividing it's in nine parts creating tailed beasts with Creation of all things, then sealed Juubi's empty body into The moon,which he created. Last missing part of The story written on The Uchiha tablet could be that in his last moments he divided all his remaining chakra combined with his soul in nine parts and sealed each part in each tailed beasts with not equal amount of chakra. This was failsafe and hope that some day The choosen one appear and led The tailed beasts rigth way getting trust all of them, so he would meet his successor.
This is close to or even entire truth story written on Ancient tablet only readable with Rinnengan.
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From what we have known so far The God Tree wasn't involved in creation of The World, same with creation of Mankind, also nothing was stated that The God Tree is resposible for creation of The Planet, even World. However using logic could bring us to conclusion that The Almighty God Tree created at least animals and plants also entire landscapes, in short The World. To deciphere and give logical explanation about this missing part, how it really went down ?, to answer this question we have first to find possible Concept/idea on what myth/mythology The God Tree used by Kishi is based on. Honestly I believe that most likely and most fitting could be The bible.
Ok, so if we are going by Concept of the Bible Then In the bible it was stated that One Day God decided to create The world, Planets and Space. Considering it as truth, it could mean that So all-powerfull almighty God was also involved in creation of The Planet and Mankind in Narutoverse. Creation of Planet could be easy to understand and logical one... while Creation of Mankind could seems a stretch to some of you, but in the bible The God created humans to look like him/in his image. The God planting The God Tree as first on the planet could make a lot of sense also, This could clear up doubts about what was first, Mankind or The God Tree ?
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Nagato said "or maybe this is the hand of The Real God"
From this point The story could went smoothly that Some Princess Kaguya broke God rule tooking and eating Forbidden fruit from that Tree. Then Princess Kaguya got Godly powers and defeat all her enemies stopping wars. The God Tree was mad at her and changing shape of monster(Juubi) cursed her and maybe killed her. The curse mean that she won't be able to give birth, however After many prayers and asking for forgivness and second chance the almighty God decided to give her second chance showing a little mercy. Actually The God itself may be involved in birth of child named Hagoromo Ootsnuki later known as Sage of six paths to us.
This could also make Sage of six paths half of God... as The God was his father and Princess Kaguya was his mother but there is also possibility that The God was reborn in human body aka Sage of six paths .Juubi killed Kaguya and enraged by God giving second chance to Princess also breaking The God Tree curse went furious and attacked Mankind trying to destroy it, but was stopped by Hagoromo Ootsnuki, son of Human mother with Godly powers and The God father.
The we knew that sage of six paths defeated Juubi and became it's Jinchurki. at his deathbed The Sage unsealed Juubi while dividing it's in nine parts creating tailed beasts with Creation of all things, then sealed Juubi's empty body into The moon,which he created. Last missing part of The story written on The Uchiha tablet could be that in his last moments he divided all his remaining chakra combined with his soul in nine parts and sealed each part in each tailed beasts with not equal amount of chakra. This was failsafe and hope that some day The choosen one appear and led The tailed beasts rigth way getting trust all of them, so he would meet his successor.
This is close to or even entire truth story written on Ancient tablet only readable with Rinnengan.
TRUTH ABOUT ANCIENT STONE TABLET, purpouse, creator and origin/story
The questions about The Stone tablet:
1) Who did write on this stone all this information ?
Honestly I believe that Sage of six paths wrote all this information mentioned by me at Stone tablet, however unable to read anything from this stone tablet Elder Son got mad and decided to rewrite it as Surface of Stone tablet was blant and didn't show any content, Elder Son also wrote how to obtain Rinnengan. Later First Uchiha unable to read what The Elder Son wrote, also got mad and wrote his knowledge on it adding way to obtain higher level of Sharingan.
This way Info written on This tablet will be different each time when you read it with different eyes, but only with Rinnengan you will be able to read Entire truth.
2) Why this Stone tablet is called "Uchiha Tablet" ?
I belive that The Sage planned to give that Stone tablet to younger son... or simply left to both of them. However angered and feeling betrayed Elder Son was afraid that Younger Son will succedd and will be rightfully heir of father, after many battles Elder Son stole this Ancient tablet either to make Younger Son unable to read it;s content as Elder Son knows that Younger's son body is enough to read content while he lacked Rinnengan or he wanted to get what he thought was rightfully his and belonged to him as he thought that he should be true and only successor of his father. Elder Son hide this stone tablet in one of temple where following Uchiha clansmen could read it;s content.
3) Why did The Sage even leave such Ancient tablet containing entire truth/complete story ?
The reason was simple he wanted for it be transfered to choosen one in some day, and it could allows Choosen one to understand how to solve The longgest lasting conflict ever... and make it easier to succed. It could be also in way education to people to show them why they shouldn't fight each other and spread the hatred.
1) Who did write on this stone all this information ?
Honestly I believe that Sage of six paths wrote all this information mentioned by me at Stone tablet, however unable to read anything from this stone tablet Elder Son got mad and decided to rewrite it as Surface of Stone tablet was blant and didn't show any content, Elder Son also wrote how to obtain Rinnengan. Later First Uchiha unable to read what The Elder Son wrote, also got mad and wrote his knowledge on it adding way to obtain higher level of Sharingan.
This way Info written on This tablet will be different each time when you read it with different eyes, but only with Rinnengan you will be able to read Entire truth.
2) Why this Stone tablet is called "Uchiha Tablet" ?
I belive that The Sage planned to give that Stone tablet to younger son... or simply left to both of them. However angered and feeling betrayed Elder Son was afraid that Younger Son will succedd and will be rightfully heir of father, after many battles Elder Son stole this Ancient tablet either to make Younger Son unable to read it;s content as Elder Son knows that Younger's son body is enough to read content while he lacked Rinnengan or he wanted to get what he thought was rightfully his and belonged to him as he thought that he should be true and only successor of his father. Elder Son hide this stone tablet in one of temple where following Uchiha clansmen could read it;s content.
3) Why did The Sage even leave such Ancient tablet containing entire truth/complete story ?
The reason was simple he wanted for it be transfered to choosen one in some day, and it could allows Choosen one to understand how to solve The longgest lasting conflict ever... and make it easier to succed. It could be also in way education to people to show them why they shouldn't fight each other and spread the hatred.
About Sage of six paths being not Uzumaki
Honestly, Now when we know surname of Sage of six paths revealed along with a bit of his backstory, I will say that there is really small or minor chance that Sage of six paths is in fact Uzumaki.
First, We know that Sage of six paths 's full name is Hagaromo Ootsnuki, so Ootsnuki as his surname and Kaguya's surname could be name of shinobi clan... yes ? BUT wait... wasn't Princess Kaguya first person to stole and eat forbidden fruit, wasn't she first to use chakra ?, Yes, she was... then Ootsnuki could be her surname of pre shinobi family. Then after she gave birth to child known as Hagoromo Ootsnuki... This first child was born with chakra within his body, also it was said that this child later known as Sage of six paths found out Ninjtusu and discovered all aspects of chakra... could it mean that Ootsnuki surname was only inherited by Sage of six paths, but as Shinobi he began his own clan called Uzumaki ?, this is possibility as Sir Derp Obito proved by showing evidences for us to support this theory.
However one statement makes it very hard to impossible to happen: "He was the ancestor of shinobi" , If we take this statement literally, then this could mean that he couldn't be just Uzumaki as all other clans would have to came from Uzumaki clan... and this could be illogical move from Kishi. Unless The Sage did *** with Normal woman before he became Juubi Jin give begining to Uzumaki clan... Then as Juubi Jin Sage of six paths did *** with other chick/chicks giving birth to another clans then created his sons via Creation of all things , First Uchiha(juubi'eye mutated) and First Senjuu.(Juubi's body mutated).
However there is always possibility that simply offsrpings of Sage married normal human womans giving brith to new clan s via mutation... only Uzumaki(as Pre Juubi's offsprings) and Uchiha and Senjuu(as Juubi influenced Sage's traits) were his direct descendants.
In short Only was Sage of six paths could be fully Uzumaki and at the same time he would have to be Ootsnuki if Sage of six paths began his own shinobi clan as it's creator, Uzumaki clan.
First, We know that Sage of six paths 's full name is Hagaromo Ootsnuki, so Ootsnuki as his surname and Kaguya's surname could be name of shinobi clan... yes ? BUT wait... wasn't Princess Kaguya first person to stole and eat forbidden fruit, wasn't she first to use chakra ?, Yes, she was... then Ootsnuki could be her surname of pre shinobi family. Then after she gave birth to child known as Hagoromo Ootsnuki... This first child was born with chakra within his body, also it was said that this child later known as Sage of six paths found out Ninjtusu and discovered all aspects of chakra... could it mean that Ootsnuki surname was only inherited by Sage of six paths, but as Shinobi he began his own clan called Uzumaki ?, this is possibility as Sir Derp Obito proved by showing evidences for us to support this theory.
However one statement makes it very hard to impossible to happen: "He was the ancestor of shinobi" , If we take this statement literally, then this could mean that he couldn't be just Uzumaki as all other clans would have to came from Uzumaki clan... and this could be illogical move from Kishi. Unless The Sage did *** with Normal woman before he became Juubi Jin give begining to Uzumaki clan... Then as Juubi Jin Sage of six paths did *** with other chick/chicks giving birth to another clans then created his sons via Creation of all things , First Uchiha(juubi'eye mutated) and First Senjuu.(Juubi's body mutated).
However there is always possibility that simply offsrpings of Sage married normal human womans giving brith to new clan s via mutation... only Uzumaki(as Pre Juubi's offsprings) and Uchiha and Senjuu(as Juubi influenced Sage's traits) were his direct descendants.
In short Only was Sage of six paths could be fully Uzumaki and at the same time he would have to be Ootsnuki if Sage of six paths began his own shinobi clan as it's creator, Uzumaki clan.
Explanation about chakra stuff
The misconception about chakra needed for human to live misunderstood by some of readers is that For real they didn't need chakra as itself to live before Kaguya Princess took and eat this fruit, but rather what was needed for chakra to appear. To make it simple physcial and spiritual energies are needed for shinobi to mold chakra, so this is most likely that shinobi before couldn't mold chakra but still had Physical and spiritual energies in his bodies.
That could explain why The Tree God was not interested in humans before, as they couldn't use chakra even if they had necessary ingredients to mold chakra... but they lacked knowledge to mold two energies creating chakra. Later Sage of six paths taught people all around how to mold chakra and use Ninjutsu so modern people/shinobi can mold chakra from almost the birth, that why The Tree God targeted them.
Now , There is a question appear: Could The Tree God attack normal civilains ?, people who had both energies but don't know how to mold these two energies=chakra ?
I believe that no, The Tree God shouldn't be even interested in them and consider them as true humans who lived peacefully with that The Tree God in Ancient Times Pre Shinobi.
That could explain why The Tree God was not interested in humans before, as they couldn't use chakra even if they had necessary ingredients to mold chakra... but they lacked knowledge to mold two energies creating chakra. Later Sage of six paths taught people all around how to mold chakra and use Ninjutsu so modern people/shinobi can mold chakra from almost the birth, that why The Tree God targeted them.
Now , There is a question appear: Could The Tree God attack normal civilains ?, people who had both energies but don't know how to mold these two energies=chakra ?
I believe that no, The Tree God shouldn't be even interested in them and consider them as true humans who lived peacefully with that The Tree God in Ancient Times Pre Shinobi.
SUMMARY:
- Order of events since The true begining: The God existed-> The God created planet->The God planted small Tree on planet called The Tree God->The Tree God created life on planet: animals, plants and entire landscape(The World)-> The God created Mankind in image of himself/herself->Mankind lived peacefully in harmony with The Tree God and worshipping it-> Mankind begin to fight each other for greater territory... and everythin else-> The Princess Kaguya took and ate Forbidden fruit from The Tree God->The Princess Kaguya succedd in subduing The war-> Princess Kaguya got curse of The Tree God to be unable to give birth, The Tree God shaped as monster known as Juubi went after Princess-> The God breaking curse of The Tree God after many prayers and asking for second chance made by Kaguya-> Birth of Hagaromo Ootsnuki(God + Kaguya)-> Half God Hagaromo Ootsnuki later known as Sage of six paths faced and defeated Juubi, who attacked entire Mankind-> Sage of six paths became Juubi Jinchurki-> Sage of six paths unsealing and dividing Juubi in nine parts creating tailed beasts-> Sage of six paths sent Juubi's empty corse in sky and sealed into giant rock called The Moon->Sage of six paths remaining powers along with chakra and soul divided into nine not eaqual parts was sealed in each tailed beast, so when all fo them gather adn trust someone that SOSP will appear in front of him
- The Stone tablet was written by Sage of six paths, then by Elder Son and finally some First Uchiha and can be read with Sharingan, MS and Rinnengan. Also according to what occular power you use The content will be different to read.
- The Stone tablet wasn't "Uchiha tablet" from the begining as Sage planned to give to younger son or let's it to both of his sons. Unfortunetly Elder Son stole it and hide in some Temple later known as Uchiha Temple(Narako Shrine)
- Madara most likely did NOT read Ancient tablet with Rinnengan, but with just Eternal Mangenkyou Sharingan
- The Sage of six paths left this Stone tablet containing entire truth what truelly happened in hope that one day choosen one will read it and it help him to reach Peace and avoid The Sage mistakes. Also help me understand meanings behind extistence of tailed beasts for example.
- Sage of six paths may be Son of The Tree God and Princess Kaguya or even The God and Princess Kaguya as I explained in my thread.
- Sage of six paths still can be Uzumaki, but this is very small chance [Read last second for explanation]
- Sage of six paths can be also The God reborn in human body, cause that father wasn't needed.
- Mankind didn't need chakra to live but only both emergies: physical and spiritual energies which can be molded into chakra... that what they had before Princess kaguya took and ate this forbidden fruit.
- Currently Civilians wouldn't be targeted by The Tree God as they have both energies but with lack of knowledge can't use chakra so The Tree God could consider them as true humans who lived peacefully along with it in Pre Shinobi Ancient Times.
Uff... Finally I am done
Thanks for reading guys !
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