(Theory) SO6P is not a uzumaki ( READ)

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

He's never made mention of that to me (link if possible?), Varrah-san has good ideas but he isn't always right as even I have fine-tuned his hypothesis's in the past.

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[Great Sage of Uchiha]

But they did learn it from Rikūdo, because Rikūdo taught it to his relatives.

I mean if we go thru the list of the Sage of six paths relatives
we have Senju, Uchiha, Uzumaki and Hyuuga
Senju got his Body and life force and they had thousand skills

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Uchiha got the eye and spirital force , they also had pretty much Genjutsu, Fire/ amaterasu, and Susano'o

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Uzumaki also Got the Body and life force but had Hand seals instead of 1000 skills

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Hyuuga got the eyes and spirital force as well but question? What else did hyuuga get besides the Eyes

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[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I mean if we go thru the list of the Sage of six paths relatives
we have Senju, Uchiha, Uzumaki and Hyuuga
Senju got his Body and life force and they had thousand skills
Uchiha got the eye and spirital force , they also had pretty much Genjutsu, Fire/ amaterasu, and Susano'o
Uzumaki also Got the Body and life force but had Hand seals instead of 1000 skills
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Hyuuga got the eyes and spirital force as well but question? What else did hyuuga get besides the Eyes

I don't think the Uzumakis nor Hyūgas have the Jūbi's power inside them like the Senjus or Uchihas

 

[accept pain]

senju is the body of juubi,uchiha is eye of juubi.

uchiha + senju = rennigan will unlocked in decades

uzumaki+ hyuga= rennigan in an instant if the person has potential just like nagato or naruto.

well this is what I think. I dnt have proof.

 

[NarutoB]

senju is the body of juubi,uchiha is eye of juubi.

uchiha + senju = rennigan will unlocked in decades

uzumaki+ hyuga= rennigan in an instant if the person has potential just like nagato or naruto.

well this is what I think. I dnt have proof.

Don't worry, no one does yet. Lol

 

[Waltz]

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Rikudou is an Uzumaki; gaining his ocular powers afters sealing the Jubi. The Jubi is the body and eyes.

That was last year bro

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his ground work for this theory conflicts.

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conflict:

Ground:

I saw responses in threads claiming that the Rin’negan is a product influenced by the Jūbi—presumingly because Rikudō Sennin was its Jinchūriki—it’s unfitting. Rikudō Sennin’s possession of the Rin’negan is completely independent from the Jūbi, for the Sage held the perfect vessel for its manifestation.

*Thread was made to primarily have people link others to, and should be self explanatory*



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The Rin’negan is an ability of Rikudō Sennin’s unique qualities from his genetic material, which is known as a Kekkei Genkai (‘Bloodline Limit’).

You should certify that he still shares that belief.

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

I don't think the Uzumakis nor Hyūgas have the Jūbi's power inside them like the Senjus or Uchihas

Okay yeah that makes sense

 

[Champ]

Manga already said he was Uchiha/Senju in one body, what more is there to debate about.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Manga already said he was Uchiha/Senju in one body, what more is there to debate about.

Uchiha and Senju = Uzumaki+Jūbi

The unique factor is the Jūbi

 

[NarutoB]

Manga already said he was Uchiha/Senju in one body, what more is there to debate about.

Where did it say that?

 

[Renpatsu Dei]

One question, wasn't that scroll in the possession of the Senju? It was Hashirama's scroll that he kept kinjutsu in, that's why it was in the hokage mansion and the shadow clone jutsu was in there. The sage created ninjutsu, that involves sealing ninjutsu, so he wouldn't have learned them from an external source, he probably would have created the technique to seal the Juubi. I don't think he is an Uzumaki though.

 

[Penguin]

He is an Uzumaki.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Where did it say that?

It only explained the origins of the Elder and Younger Sons, the origin of Rikūdo himself is still a mystery

 

[-Raviel-]

Your argument fell apart at the end.

Simply because the Sage had the rinnegan, Doesn't mean all the Uzumaki should have it also, or have the ability to unlock it, We have no Idea where the sages dojutsu originated from.

You should also remember, that Kushina Uzumaki, Used a tech that resembles the Rinnegans outer paths chains

Outer path chains:

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Kushina's chains

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Both look the Same, Both Come out of their own Bodies, Both can bind Bijuu's, Is it mere coincidence?.

Sigh... The Rinnegan came from the Jūbi, and its' essence is only present in Senju and Uchiha since they are the body and eye of the Jūbi so stop asking for Naruto's Rinnegan, and the Uzumakis descended not from Rikūdo but from Rikūdo's relatives that makes them cousins to both Senjus and Uchihas, so stop spouting nonsense that the Uzumakis are merely descendants of the Senju Ancestor because they're not, more than anything they are Rikūdo's Clan. The Uzumakis who were a priestly clan.

And for your argument against Karin:

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SO, do please tell me what is Karin exactly? Do I have the impression you didn't read the character bashing rule? Or the one that doesn't allow you to use inappropriate language? Tell me, which is it?

Just apply intuition and common sense, if the Uzumakis were merely descendants of the Younger Son, why all the secrecy from Kishimoto? why not just outright say they were descendants if that was the case? why are the Uzumakis wrapped in mystery? why was there village destroyed? why would the Shiki Fūjin be unsealed by Rikūdo's Tablet? It's just common sense that Kishimoto is saving the Uzumaki backstory for the grand revelation in the ending of the series.

AAaaaaaaaaaand considering the hero is an Uzumaki...
Not to mention that a lot of spotlight is on the uzumakis at the moment. Karin, Naruto, and I am sure that Mito Uzumaki problem will be raised as well. Probably from Madara's POV as we always seen she has been featured in Madara's POV or Obito's who knows about it from Madara.

Exactly, and if my suspicions are correct, Rikūdo himself will meet Naruto whose chakra essence is stored inside the Bijūs much like what Kushina and Minato did to meet Naruto

Well he might meet him he might not. I say he might meet him because Kishi said in an interview some of the characters will return or some that weren't planned to appear, will. The Kages did. Who else expects the Rikudo? Pretty much everyone.
He might not, I say it because in the manga, Kishi made Kurama said that he is the reincarnation of the old-gramps or something along the lines, to the tailed beasts when they met up inside Naruto's counsciousness? I can't remember exactly. It was clear as the blue sky that Naruto will be the reincarnation of the sage and he is an Uzumaki. Well, let's do a simple math, shall we? Naruto = Reincarnation of the Sage; Naruto = Uzumaki => Sage = Uzumaki.
Is it that hard? Though, given, we might be wrong. But like 80-90% of the story structure leads us to believe that.

Some focus too much on the bloodline, you need only look at Naruto's Seal, it is Rikūdo's Seal, it is his Clan's Seal, even Kurama recognized it to be so.

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The Sage being an Uzumaki is like Tobi=Obito, it's so obvious. Lol

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That is a sealing circle Rikūdo is standing on, the two candles beside him are probably part of the technique itself

Just like the Uzumaki Altar of Sealing having candles as part of the Jutsu itself:

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The candles are symbolic of Sanctity/Priestliness:

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Well OP....you got owned son lmfao

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Well OP....you got owned son lmfao

You should've quoted Exaar too:

Your argument fell apart at the end.

Simply because the Sage had the rinnegan, Doesn't mean all the Uzumaki should have it also, or have the ability to unlock it, We have no Idea where the sages dojutsu originated from.

You should also remember, that Kushina Uzumaki, Used a tech that resembles the Rinnegans outer paths chains

Outer path chains:

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Kushina's chains

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Both look the Same, Both Come out of their own Bodies, Both can bind Bijuu's, Is it mere coincidence?.

 

[accept pain]

uzumaki and hyuga are the oldest clans.
sage has uzumaki dna as well as hyuga eyes.after fighting juubi he got rennigan.then split it we got senju and uchiha. this is so easy to understand. lol

 

[-Raviel-]

You should've quoted Exaar too:

Oh..but I did :|

 

[Champ]

Where did it say that?

Rikudo sennin was the two clan, he held both bloodlines in one body.

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Anything else ppl say about him is simply fan fiction

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Rikudo sennin was the two clan, he held both bloodlines in one body.

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Anything else ppl say about him is simply fan fiction

No, that merely tells the origin of the Elder and Younger Sons, the Sage's origin himself is open for discussion, unless of course you believe he popped himself into existence out of nothing or do you?

 

[Renpatsu Dei]

People are taking this whole Sage=Uzumaki for granted. Personally, I just think the Uzumaki stayed closer to the whole Ninshu idea that was introduced before ninjutsu before it was weaponised, they as the younger son stayed on the original path of the sage, that's why their sealing techniques and abilities are closer. But I can see why people would think that he was.