[Theory] Sasuke's Revolution Outcome

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There is only one opponent. It's Sasuke. I think that has been made very clear by now.
Well Sasuke did survive and I don't think he'd give up just after one battle. If he did, then he would have stopped after attacking Bee.

Sasuke has shown to be charismatic even though we might not think that......he was able to persuade Orochimaru of all people.

Think about that for a second.......Orochimaru.

Juugo and Karin will literally give up their lives for him.



So I wouldn't be surprised at all if people followed him.
 

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Well Sasuke did survive and I don't think he'd give up just after one battle. If he did, then he would have stopped after attacking Bee.

Sasuke has shown to be charismatic even though we might not think that......he was able to persuade Orochimaru of all people.

Think about that for a second.......Orochimaru.
Orochimaru's interest in Sasuke stems from his belief that Sasuke has great potential. He just wants to see how strong Sasuke will become. That has also been made clear.
 

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No one is saying it's the tailed beast fault for what's happening. No one is belittling them for their existence. It's not that anyone is saying blaming them, it's just that there will never be true peace if they're within human reach.

Naruto's "solution" for peace will let the Biju roam free, and then another nut job will run along at some point in time and we'd have another IT crisis. Sure, there were wars before the Biju were used for personal gain, but nothing that threatened the entire human race. The Biju's very existence threaten the entire human race, as seen in what happened with IT.

Is it the Biju's fault? No. But that doesn't matter. In Naruto, shinobi are the apex predator.. the top dogs. That being said, their well being comes first. Life isn't fair.​
To play devil's advocate, there will never be true peace in the world as long as humanity exists, as long as there are multiple humans, there will be disagreements and conflict. So, to be fair to the bijuu, the solution would be to wipe out the human race, no? Because, no matter which one, young or old, man, woman, or child, they are all capable of waging war and causing chaos, right?
 

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Orochimaru's interest in Sasuke stems from his belief that Sasuke has great potential. He just wants to see how strong Sasuke will become. That has also been made clear.
Still, not everyone shares the same view. Just because Naruto saved them doesn't mean he's the right man to follow. What it means is that he's strong, but not one that would prevent these disasters from happening.

Sasuke might appeal to the masses by saying he will make sure something like Infinite Tsukuyomi or the Uchiha Massacre will never repeat.
 

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Still, not everyone shares the same view. Just because Naruto saved them doesn't mean he's the right man to follow. What it means is that he's strong, but not one that would prevent these disasters from happening.

Sasuke might appeal to the masses by saying he will make sure something like Infinite Tsukuyomi or the Uchiha Massacre will never repeat.
And? If Naruto couldn't prevent such a thing, neither would Sasuke.
 

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To play devil's advocate, there will never be true peace in the world as long as humanity exists, as long as there are multiple humans, there will be disagreements and conflict. So, to be fair to the bijuu, the solution would be to wipe out the human race, no? Because, no matter which one, young or old, man, woman, or child, they are all capable of waging war and causing chaos, right?
@Bold, you're absolutely correct. But minimizing human conflict is possible.

@Underline, that's what you're not understanding. It's not about the Biju. They're not at the top of the food chain. And in Sasuke's eyes, (soon to be more, perhaps), if he's going to choose between the Biju and the entire human race, he's going to choose the human race.

Like you said.. as long as humans exist, true peace will never be achieved. Without the Biju's, humans don't have to worry about IT happening again, and threatening the entire human race. Is the chance of this happening particularly high? Probably not, but why leave it to chance when someone right now has the power to erase any negative possible outcome? Isn't the continuation of the human race worth sealing or killing 9 entities (that stem from a corrupt God that just so happens to want to kill everyone, mind you), worth it?

I'd say so. It's not like everyone loves them. In fact, aside from a handful of shinobi, they're mainly viewed as weapons of mass destruction.​
 
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i dont want another war arc lol but it sounds good. prophet obito predicted the alliance would fall apart and start another war and sas would turn on naruto again.

sasuke is a loner. indra was shown with no army or allies so itll probably stay that way.
 

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i dont want another war arc lol but it sounds good. prophet obito predicted the alliance would fall apart and start another war and sas would turn on naruto again.

sasuke is a loner. indra was shown with no army or allies so itll probably stay that way.

That's true, but remember Indra did create the Uchiha clan. So he wasn't truly alone.

I think what Hagoromo meant was that he had no friends and no connections like Ashura's.

Instead of friends he had loyalists and subjects.
 

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Still, not everyone shares the same view. Just because Naruto saved them doesn't mean he's the right man to follow. What it means is that he's strong, but not one that would prevent these disasters from happening.

Sasuke might appeal to the masses by saying he will make sure something like Infinite Tsukuyomi or the Uchiha Massacre will never repeat.
The thing is, with Naruto, there is no question. His intentions are known to everyone and his cause is good. Naruto wouldn't have to say that he would ensure that history won't repeat itself. Everyone who knows him knows that he will do anything to protect them. Sasuke's intentions have always been unclear. He doesn't confide in anyone. He doesn't acknowledge his shortcomings. He doesn't respect 'weak' people and he holds grudges against people who he thinks could be stronger than him. The only thing that is clear about Sasuke is that he will only do things his way.

It's true, he's been spewing autistic BS since Janurary 2013.

And none of it has come true. He doesn't deserve the praise he gets.
He is one of the most intelligent people here. Being right isn't the point; it's about making people think and exchange their thoughts. Sir Derp Obito thoroughly explains his rationales in his theories/predictions, and that is the only thing that matters. As long as the logic is sound and clearly presented, no prediction or theory is bad.
 

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The thing is, with Naruto, there is no question. His intentions are known to everyone and his cause is good. Naruto wouldn't have to say that he would ensure that history won't repeat itself. Everyone who knows him knows that he will do anything to protect them. Sasuke's intentions have always been unclear. He doesn't confide in anyone. He doesn't acknowledge his shortcomings. He doesn't respect 'weak' people and he holds grudges against people who he thinks could be stronger than him. The only thing that is clear about Sasuke is that he will only do things his way.
Just to clarify, I'm not disagreeing with you. I believe in Naruto and his path over Sasuke's.

I'm just giving you examples of why people would follow Sasuke in the manga, which is very much possible.

Sometimes a good person is not the best choice for a political role. They are the one's that can't make the hard decision.

If Sasuke makes a good case, he will have people support him. When you think about it, Sasuke is the byproduct of everything that is wrong with the Shinobi System and I'm sure people will understand that.
 

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Who knows. Words are power, say the right words and people will flock to you. It doesn't matter if it's true; if Sasuke is able to make a good case, he will have people support him.
Except Sasuke has already shown that he doesn't use words he acts, he doesn't care if people agree with or like his goals, he'll set out to accomplish them, and kill those that stand in his way.
 

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@Bold, you're absolutely correct. But minimizing human conflict is possible.

@Underline, that's what you're not understanding. It's not about the Biju. They're not at the top of the food chain. And in Sasuke's eyes, (soon to be more, perhaps), if he's going to choose between the Biju and the entire human race, he's going to choose the human race.

Like you said.. as long as humans exist, true peace will never be achieved. Without the Biju's, humans don't have to worry about IT happening again, and threatening the entire human race. Is the chance of this happening particularly high? Probably not, but why leave it to chance when someone right now has the power to erase any negative possible outcome? Isn't the continuation of the human race worth sealing or killing 9 entities (that stem from a corrupt God that just so happens to want to kill everyone, mind you), worth it?

I'd say so. It's not like everyone loves them. In fact, aside from a handful of shinobi, they're mainly viewed as weapons of mass destruction.​
Honestly? Humans should learn restraint, look at our world, the planet we're destroying, should we continue to destroy it for human f*cking interest? The Tailed Beasts shouldn't be destroyed, humanity should be lead, taught, to be better, what Sasuke plans to do is like having a child get cut by a knife, and instead of teaching them not to play with sharp objects, you make sure they never encounter knives again. One day they will see one, and could get hurt. Humans should learn restraint and what to respect, because with or without the Tailed Beasts they'd destroy themselves eventually.
 

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Honestly? Humans should learn restraint, look at our world, the planet we're destroying, should we continue to destroy it for human f*cking interest? The Tailed Beasts shouldn't be destroyed, humanity should be lead, taught, to be better, what Sasuke plans to do is like having a child get cut by a knife, and instead of teaching them not to play with sharp objects, you make sure they never encounter knives again. One day they will see one, and could get hurt. Humans should learn restraint and what to respect, because with or without the Tailed Beasts they'd destroy themselves eventually.
Teaching something to someone doesn't always mean it will work.

We are taught that murder, stealing, rape, etc. are all bad and why they're bad, yet people still do it.

Everyone knows fire burns, yet there are still idiots who light themselves on fire just for the heck of it.

So long as greed and lust for power exists, men will always seek the power of the Bijuu.



Again I'm not saying I agree with Sasuke, but his perspective does make sense to a degree.
 

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Can everyone disregard denzel Washington and refrain from even acknowledging his existence I've been on four threads in the last hour Or so and all he does is bash sir derp obito(whom I believe makes outstanding points) and troll just ignore him.
While contributing nothing to the base, yup, Denzel is irritating, I see the ban hammer not to far in his future.
 

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And wouldn't killing just one bijuu do the trick? I mean you need all 9 beasts to form the juubi so if ones out your good. And also what did hamura do with his half of the juubi it would suck to find out it just died with him
 

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And wouldn't killing just one bijuu do the trick? I mean you need all 9 beasts to form the juubi so if ones out your good. And also what did hamura do with his half of the juubi it would suck to find out it just died with him
Bijuu can't die. It was stated before that if the host dies, they're released. That's how the Sanbi escaped. You have to seal them.



Also even you seal only one, that still leaves 8 walking nuclear bombs for people to abuse.
 
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