[Theory] [THEORY] Roger Pirates 3rd Strongest Member theory

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scroll to the bottom for conclusion if you dont care for proof lol.

So, this may seem a little far-fetched, but I am going to try and Theorize who is Sanji's counterpart in the Roger pirates.


Ok, first off lets discuss who Zoro and Luffys counterparts are, and possible hints they give towards the name of the 3rd strongest member.


First, Gol D. Roger, the Strongest member of the group.


What do we know about Roger? Well, we know that he loved adventure and wanted to be free on the seas (that rhymed) and turn the world upside down.


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Luffy has the same Goal, to be free and to as he pleases (to turn the world upside down)


I cant be bothered to find that manga page LOL, but you get my point.


Zoro and Rayleigh are similar also, they are both swordsman, and they also seem to have the same personality.


What I mean by that is, Rayleighs nickname is Dark King, and Zoro is pretty dark lol.


Ive wasted enough time, lets get to Sanji and his counterpart.


So Sanji is a pervert (ladies man), a cook, and a kicker/speedster


Following the pattern of Zoro and Luffy, whos counterpats were First mate and Captain respectively, sharing rank and personality aswell as fighting style, I think that Sanjis counterpart was a cook, a perv and speedster/kick-based fighter.

Also: I believe his name had the word "Bronze" in it or a variant of the word. This is because "Gold Roger" was the best fighter, like the winner the boxing at the olympics gets a Gold medal. Silvers Rayleigh, the second best fighter gets silver, and Sanji's counterpart was the 3rd best, or the Bronze medal.


Conclusion:
1. Sanjis counterpart was a Cook, Kick-based fighter, and a Pervert.

2. Following the pattern of names, his name had the word Bronze in it.​
 
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you really haven't given us any real substance to your theory other than luffy and zoro being similar the roger pirates
 

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I would hate if there more similarities and I also think a lot of fans are forcing themselves to see more similarities then there are.

Sure the hat is one, but the fact that his right hand man also wields the most common weapon of choice says what about Zoro ? Nothing.

I don't want Luffy to be the child of prophecy or the reincarnation of Roger.

Luffy is his own man with his own adventures, and if there are some coincidental similarities i'm fine with it.

And the number 3 in Roger's crew is most likely called Scopper Gaban
 

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you really haven't given us any real substance to your theory other than luffy and zoro being similar the roger pirates

What do you mean? Its a theory.

im using the pattern. i never said it was 100% certain.
 

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Nah. Too many similarities. The monster trio isn't supposed to be similar to the top 3 fighters in Roger's crew. In most crews the only only one near the captain's strength is the first mate. Luffy's crew is different.
 
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Personalities have nothing to do with it

But this bronze guy you are looking for is Scooper Gaban.

He's suppose to be the third strongest or part of the gold and silver
 

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Scopper Gabban

Doesn't have to be a kick based fighter seeing as Roger most probably doesn't have the Gomu Gomu no Mi and Rayleigh doesn't use three swords. Just a Martial Artist or Fire based fighter...

Gold and Silver are elements. If Copper is one of the trio then there will be a price hierarchy in corresponding order to the Roger pirates M3 in terms of strength.
 
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Scopper Gabban

Doesn't have to be a kick based fighter seeing as Roger most probably doesn't have the Gomu Gomu no Mi and Rayleigh doesn't use three swords. Just a Martial Artist or Fire based fighter...

Gold and Silver are elements. If Copper is one of the trio then there will be a price hierarchy in corresponding order to the Roger pirates M3 in terms of strength.


Well, we will see. It was just a theory i camp up with in the shower.
 

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It's ironic because my brain seems to be most active in the shower...

Its like that for most people
Its where people are most calm and use that time to think

For me its when im taking a dump tho :|
 

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Scopper Gabban

Doesn't have to be a kick based fighter seeing as Roger most probably doesn't have the Gomu Gomu no Mi and Rayleigh doesn't use three swords. Just a Martial Artist or Fire based fighter...

Gold and Silver are elements. If Copper is one of the trio then there will be a price hierarchy in corresponding order to the Roger pirates M3 in terms of strength.


Scooper Gaban is n Axe fighter

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Rogers uses pistols

Rayleigh uses swords

Gaban uses axes
 

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I would hate if there more similarities and I also think a lot of fans are forcing themselves to see more similarities then there are.

Sure the hat is one, but the fact that his right hand man also wields the most common weapon of choice says what about Zoro ? Nothing.

I don't want Luffy to be the child of prophecy or the reincarnation of Roger.

Luffy is his own man with his own adventures, and if there are some coincidental similarities i'm fine with it.

And the number 3 in Roger's crew is most likely called Scopper Gaban

There is most likely a parallel between Luffy and Roger... Also, if there are any parallels in the series its going to have something to do with have the D. in the name. Whitebeard kinda mentions it before he dies and i think discusses it with Roger hinting that the people with D. are the reincarnations of someone that came before them with a D.

This makes a big parallel between luffy and roger since luffy was born a year after roger died. Other than the people with a D. there are no parallels in One Piece like everyone wants to happen
 

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There is most likely a parallel between Luffy and Roger... Also, if there are any parallels in the series its going to have something to do with have the D. in the name. Whitebeard kinda mentions it before he dies and i think discusses it with Roger hinting that the people with D. are the reincarnations of someone that came before them with a D.

This makes a big parallel between luffy and roger since luffy was born a year after roger died. Other than the people with a D. there are no parallels in One Piece like everyone wants to happen

I think you should listen to WG's speech again because when he talks about the man Roger is waiting for he is not talking about reincarnation but someone who found raftel as a result of searching the seas for freedom and adventure.

And your timeline is off, Luffy born 1 year after Roger's execution ?

Roger was executed, then Portgas D. Rouge held Ace in her belly for 20 months (nearly 2 years) Ace was Luffy's older 'brother' by three years (Ace was 20 when he died and luffy 17)

So when Luffy was born Roger was already dead for 5 years.
 

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I think you should listen to WG's speech again because when he talks about the man Roger is waiting for he is not talking about reincarnation but someone who found raftel as a result of searching the seas for freedom and adventure.

And your timeline is off, Luffy born 1 year after Roger's execution ?

Roger was executed, then Portgas D. Rouge held Ace in her belly for 20 months (nearly 2 years) Ace was Luffy's older 'brother' by three years (Ace was 20 when he died and luffy 17)

So when Luffy was born Roger was already dead for 5 years.

my bad i kept on thinking that he was a year younger than ace... I know what whitebeard said i just kinda thought of it as the person to reach raftel next is following in Roger's footsteps

They hint at Luffy being the parallel of Roger with the hat, a similar journey, similar personality according to the people that knew roger like rayleigh, theres so much similar between the two that seems acceptable and they are really the only tow characters that parallel each other, but there is no evidence for any other parallels between any other characters and thats good

Its fine if there are only one or two parallels instead of being like naruto where everyone and their mother parallel someone
 

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I agree with you the cook and the kick based fighter idea sounds plausible but I think you got the color wrong. It's RED. We know Zeff was a captain of his own crew when he met Sanji but so was Shanks when he met Luffy and so was Buggy, it's not unlikely that he had formed a new crew by then.
 

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Scooper Gaban is n Axe fighter

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Rogers uses pistols

Rayleigh uses swords

Gaban uses axes
He might use those axes for cooking (as their primary use) , a bit over the top like the rest of One Piece. And I did say fire based fighter. He could catch fire through rage like Sanji (possibly). Can't count things out so suddenly...
 

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Bronze is obtained based on the mixture of tin and copper => Scopper Gaban.

When I read the title, I was expecting a name, but you just gave some very common characteristics based several very subjective comparisons.

Scopper might be the 3rd of the Roger pirates just based on his name, but that's as far as you can go with that.

I already explained a while ago that Luffy & Roger and especially Zoro & Rayleigh aren't that similar as how many people claim them to be or in the least there isn't enough info to say that. Even though there are some overall similarities between Luffy and Roger, we don't know much about Roger's personality in depth to say that both of them are so similar. For instance Roger seems far more menacing than Luffy and also more brighter. Zoro and Rayleigh don't really look like each other at all. The similarities they have are basic ones which a lot of characters have. There are countless of characters that use swords, but real swordsmen are something very different. Oda makes a difference between people who use swords to fight and real swordsmen. I mean even Roger had a sword.

So based on that you say that the 3rd Roger Pirate has to be a perverted cook just because Sanji is one? Even assuming then that Zoro and Luffy are very similar with Rayleigh and Roger, that doesn't mean that all the other crew members would be similar.
 

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He might use those axes for cooking (as their primary use) , a bit over the top like the rest of One Piece. And I did say fire based fighter. He could catch fire through rage like Sanji (possibly). Can't count things out so suddenly...

Fire?

Idk about that
 
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